Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated)

2BIG2BSKINNY · 07-20-2008, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

JT is only going to play one more year.

He has no alligence to the Skins and has even told everyone he just wants to play one more year before going into Hollywood. I'm fine with that. DE was one of weak spots on our defense. Taylor should shore it up for the time being...don't get too attached to him though because he's a one and done.

This was said by Taylor when the dolphins were slapping him in the face with there cavalier attitude of not needing him and so forth...
The Tuna is too good to start his project of a team with a good to above average player...would look better when the Dolphins rise from the door mats of the AFC and become something.

If you went to work and your boss was casually hinting that he did not need you to do what went on there, wouldn't you send them to hell with gasoline draws on...

Taylor just showed emotions...arrest him! If we give him the loyalty that the Great Redskin fan base can and will offer, he will rise to the occasion.
I give him 2-3 years here!

Gmanc711 · 07-20-2008, 08:32 PM

While I think it was probaboly a bit too expensive, we really had no choice but to pull the trigger on this. Our defense is better than it was at the start of the day. I hate to see Daniels go down, cause I really like him, but Taylor is more talented. I just hope the leadership of Daniels isn't missed too much, cause he was a great leader on the D.

itvnetop · 07-20-2008, 08:33 PM

2nd is pretty high... but i don't mind the d-line help whatsoever. Especially with the Daniels injury news earlier today. He should be still fairly productive and I think that only helps this season. D-Line isn't really a position where he'll have to re-learn a bunch of things.

freddyg12 · 07-20-2008, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

JT is only going to play one more year.

He has no alligence to the Skins and has even told everyone he just wants to play one more year before going into Hollywood. I'm fine with that. DE was one of weak spots on our defense. Taylor should shore it up for the time being...don't get too attached to him though because he's a one and done.

John Clayton just said that he'd heard from Taylor & that he's going to play at least 2 more years. Guess there's really no way to force him to play another year, but if we're close he might stay longer IMO.

freddyg12 · 07-20-2008, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinzzFan

I hate to say this, because I really like him, but Philip Daniels could be the Skins MVP this year. I already liked our D-line, but with the addition of J. Taylor the pass rush could be downright scary! I think a 2nd rounder is a bit high, but let's face it the Dolphins had all the leverage here. Carter and Taylor coming off the ends just made the back 7 that much tougher!!

HAIL!!

Yeah, I like Daniels too & think he' a solid guy & player, but he's no JT. We now have one of the top 5 DE pass rush combos in the nfl.

djnemo65 · 07-20-2008, 08:35 PM

I would have preferred to see us give up a third rounder instead, but I guess I am fine with this How good a move this turns out to be will be up to Taylor, and how seriously he takes his commitment to the team.

GTripp0012 · 07-20-2008, 08:38 PM

Looked back at Taylor's run metrics (run defense) from the last three years: they're consistently bad.

I guess the good thing is that they don't look any different from Daniels' production last year.

But those sacks, oh boy can he rack up those sack totals. He's an 8 sack guy in a down year.

ChillWill · 07-20-2008, 08:44 PM

JT will make our defense and particularly our secondary better immediately. My concern is what this does to our Cap Space. No money left. Do we renegotiate his salary?

PSUSkinsFan21 · 07-20-2008, 08:47 PM

Love this move. I was hoping the skins would have gone DE with their first rounder this year. I'll take JT over any of the DEs that were available where our original first round pick was this year in a heartbeat. Our pass rush just got worlds better than it was. JT and AC could really make for a great duo coming off the ends. Very excited to see him in action. Welcome to the Skins, Jason!

steveo395 · 07-20-2008, 08:55 PM

Wow. This happened really fast. On nfl.com, Cerrato says he will play more than one year. We're definitely going to have an amazing pass rush this year

724Skinsfan · 07-20-2008, 08:58 PM

Don't think of it as JT for a second rounder, that's kind of depressing. Think of it as JT for a better shot at winning the championship. That Redskin is going to put Romo, McNabb and that dude up in NY on their a$$e$ all season long.

Opposing team QB: "Oh no! Here comes Andre Carter! I better run the other wa...[splat]"

724Skinsfan: "Mom-ma"

steveo395 · 07-20-2008, 09:01 PM

This basically means Daniels has played his last game as a Redskin. His contract is up at the end of the year and he's done for this year

JWsleep · 07-20-2008, 09:05 PM

I'm with JLac here. We were in a bind--this is the best of a difficult situation. If he plays 2 good years, we got a great deal. But even 1 strong will do, IMO.

Wow, Just Your Average First Day Of Camp, Eh?

Man, my head is still spinning. What a crazy day.

Anyway, to me, this is a move the Skins had to make. You're talking about picking up dudes who can, most likely, barely play in the NFL, if at all, versus getting a future Hall of Famer and the premier sack guy in the league over the last 10 years. (Okay, maybe it's Strahan, but he's retired now.)

And Vinny Cerrato was ever-so-confident Taylor is more than a one-year rental, so that's huge, too. It was going to take a second-round pick to get him under these circumstances - the league knew the Skins were desperate as heck now, losing two DEs for the season right off the bat, including a starter.

Taylor will certainly have some entertainment-type stuff he wants to do in the offseason, but with his pedigree, he's earned that right. He's been remarkably healthy his entire career - hasn't missed a start this decade - and is still a beast at 33. You have to try to make this move; there's no one else out there and it was already a very thin spot of the roster even with a healthy Daniels.

The Skins had to act decisively and they did, but I'm not buying that they pulled this off in 45-60 minutes, as Cerrato tried to say, but in the end that doesn't matter. (For what it's worth, the Dolphins still will not confirm this deal as of 7:30).

Good for the Skins. Guys like Chris Wilson should learn a lot from Taylor, and it was a huge gamble banking on Daniels staying healthy all year as the starter in the first place, given his age and injury history.

So, how to they top this Monday?

Redskins Insider

ChillWill · 07-20-2008, 09:13 PM

How do you have 2 season ending injuries on the 1st day of camp. A day in shells. I think the Skins will miss Daniels presence against the run but this is a Division where as the Giants proved last year you have to get after the Quarterback. We will see a lot of draws this year.

Paintrain · 07-20-2008, 09:33 PM

LOL, wow what's day 2 of the Zorn era going to look like??!?! I like the move, we're getting a proven stud for a couple (hopefully) of years..

Don't discount Snyder's Hollywood connections to getting a little more out of JT possibly.. That'd be an interesting thing to watch contract wise, if he signs an extension or lower $$ deal, yet gets a multi picture deal with Snyder's studio..

Football-wise it's a huge win though, Taylor vs. Daniels is nowhere close.. Should be interesting around the family dinner table though with his wife being married to Cowboys LB Zach Thomas!

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07-20-2008, 08:32 PM	#17 (permalink)
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rochester,NY Posts: 6,240	re: Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated) While I think it was probaboly a bit too expensive, we really had no choice but to pull the trigger on this. Our defense is better than it was at the start of the day. I hate to see Daniels go down, cause I really like him, but Taylor is more talented. I just hope the leadership of Daniels isn't missed too much, cause he was a great leader on the D. __________________ #21 I bleed Yellow, Maroon, and Black....too funny....

07-20-2008, 08:33 PM	#18 (permalink)
itvnetop The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,645	re: Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated) 2nd is pretty high... but i don't mind the d-line help whatsoever. Especially with the Daniels injury news earlier today. He should be still fairly productive and I think that only helps this season. D-Line isn't really a position where he'll have to re-learn a bunch of things.

07-20-2008, 08:35 PM	#21 (permalink)
djnemo65 The Starter Join Date: May 2004 Location: Japan Posts: 2,300	re: Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated) I would have preferred to see us give up a third rounder instead, but I guess I am fine with this How good a move this turns out to be will be up to Taylor, and how seriously he takes his commitment to the team.

07-20-2008, 08:38 PM	#22 (permalink)
GTripp0012 Jason Campbell: Franchise QB Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 6,977	re: Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated) Looked back at Taylor's run metrics (run defense) from the last three years: they're consistently bad. I guess the good thing is that they don't look any different from Daniels' production last year. But those sacks, oh boy can he rack up those sack totals. He's an 8 sack guy in a down year. __________________ "It's mind-boggling to me, really. Look at the tape. Look at my impact on the game. The guys who make it are good players, and I'm not saying I'm better than all of them. But I wish people would watch the games, watch the tape." - London Fletcher on his pro bowl candidacy.

07-20-2008, 08:44 PM	#23 (permalink)
ChillWill Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 146	re: Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated) JT will make our defense and particularly our secondary better immediately. My concern is what this does to our Cap Space. No money left. Do we renegotiate his salary?

07-20-2008, 08:47 PM	#24 (permalink)
PSUSkinsFan21 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 1,326	re: Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated) Love this move. I was hoping the skins would have gone DE with their first rounder this year. I'll take JT over any of the DEs that were available where our original first round pick was this year in a heartbeat. Our pass rush just got worlds better than it was. JT and AC could really make for a great duo coming off the ends. Very excited to see him in action. Welcome to the Skins, Jason! __________________ "Hail to the Redskins!" and "Fight on State!"

07-20-2008, 08:55 PM	#25 (permalink)
steveo395 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,486	re: Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated) Wow. This happened really fast. On nfl.com, Cerrato says he will play more than one year. We're definitely going to have an amazing pass rush this year

07-20-2008, 08:58 PM	#26 (permalink)
724Skinsfan Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 3,034	re: Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated) Don't think of it as JT for a second rounder, that's kind of depressing. Think of it as JT for a better shot at winning the championship. That Redskin is going to put Romo, McNabb and that dude up in NY on their a$$e$ all season long. Opposing team QB: "Oh no! Here comes Andre Carter! I better run the other wa...[splat]" 724Skinsfan: "Mom-ma" __________________ "I hope I'm getting better. I hope you haven't seen my best." - Jim Zorn

07-20-2008, 09:01 PM	#27 (permalink)
steveo395 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,486	re: Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated) This basically means Daniels has played his last game as a Redskin. His contract is up at the end of the year and he's done for this year

07-20-2008, 09:05 PM	#28 (permalink)
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,157	re: Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated) I'm with JLac here. We were in a bind--this is the best of a difficult situation. If he plays 2 good years, we got a great deal. But even 1 strong will do, IMO. Wow, Just Your Average First Day Of Camp, Eh? Man, my head is still spinning. What a crazy day. Anyway, to me, this is a move the Skins had to make. You're talking about picking up dudes who can, most likely, barely play in the NFL, if at all, versus getting a future Hall of Famer and the premier sack guy in the league over the last 10 years. (Okay, maybe it's Strahan, but he's retired now.) And Vinny Cerrato was ever-so-confident Taylor is more than a one-year rental, so that's huge, too. It was going to take a second-round pick to get him under these circumstances - the league knew the Skins were desperate as heck now, losing two DEs for the season right off the bat, including a starter. Taylor will certainly have some entertainment-type stuff he wants to do in the offseason, but with his pedigree, he's earned that right. He's been remarkably healthy his entire career - hasn't missed a start this decade - and is still a beast at 33. You have to try to make this move; there's no one else out there and it was already a very thin spot of the roster even with a healthy Daniels. The Skins had to act decisively and they did, but I'm not buying that they pulled this off in 45-60 minutes, as Cerrato tried to say, but in the end that doesn't matter. (For what it's worth, the Dolphins still will not confirm this deal as of 7:30). Good for the Skins. Guys like Chris Wilson should learn a lot from Taylor, and it was a huge gamble banking on Daniels staying healthy all year as the starter in the first place, given his age and injury history. So, how to they top this Monday? Redskins Insider __________________ Hail from Houston!

07-20-2008, 09:13 PM	#29 (permalink)
ChillWill Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 146	re: Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated) How do you have 2 season ending injuries on the 1st day of camp. A day in shells. I think the Skins will miss Daniels presence against the run but this is a Division where as the Giants proved last year you have to get after the Quarterback. We will see a lot of draws this year.

07-20-2008, 09:33 PM	#30 (permalink)
Paintrain The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Posts: 1,961	re: Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated) LOL, wow what's day 2 of the Zorn era going to look like??!?! I like the move, we're getting a proven stud for a couple (hopefully) of years.. Don't discount Snyder's Hollywood connections to getting a little more out of JT possibly.. That'd be an interesting thing to watch contract wise, if he signs an extension or lower $$ deal, yet gets a multi picture deal with Snyder's studio.. Football-wise it's a huge win though, Taylor vs. Daniels is nowhere close.. Should be interesting around the family dinner table though with his wife being married to Cowboys LB Zach Thomas! __________________ 2009 Wish List- Laron Landry not playing 30 yards away from the ball. Darren Sproles, Karlos Danby and a RT in free agency. Michael Johnson in the draft. Malcolm Kelly to become Marques Colston. For the Cult of Colt to be silent.

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