Non-Jason Taylor News (from Redskins Blog)

Slingin Sammy 33 · 07-21-2008, 06:06 PM

A few things stood out for me in this blog:

1) Springs is healthy and looks in great shape

2) Smoot is fine after yesterday's ankle issue.

3) JC sounds like he's about 50/50 hot & cold. To me at this point that's a good thing, it means his timing with the WRs is coming along. His knee is likely 100% and not effecting his throws. His errors are probably "read" errors (correctable).

4) Colt Brennan's release sounds a bit "Wuerfful-like". It sounds like he's put on some weight though.

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Dirtbag359 · 07-21-2008, 06:24 PM

JLC also managed to write a beautiful article bitching about the front office again. If DS weekness is having to make big splashes JLC's weakness is having to trash him (Snyder) for petty reasons. And of course mine is bashing JLC.
Posted at 3:27 PM ET, 07/21/2008

The Immaculate Deception

There is a reason the media schlubs around here have a hard time believing a lot of what comes out of Vinny Cerrato's mouth, and a reason he has credibility issues. Yesterday was a prime example, though hardly unprecedented in these parts. Cerrato repeatedly denied the team was interested in Jason Taylor to the local media (via text, phone call, and then in front of the camera at a press conference), from about 2 pm right up until he tripped over his own feet entering the media room to announce the trade.

BigSKINBauer · 07-21-2008, 06:29 PM

In other news:
Big ups to our depth!

Depth serves teams well over course of NFL grind

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Word is Campbell is actually disappointed in the first couple days of camp. Hopefully that'll change before preseason starts. 13 days!!!@123

J. Spanky · 07-22-2008, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by hesscl34

I've about had it with all of the excuses about why JC is so freakin inconsistent... I just hope Zorn will see the writing on the wall and do the right thing before we have to dig ourselves out of a huge hole mid-season!

and what exactly is the "right thing"?

redsk1 · 07-22-2008, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

JLC also managed to write a beautiful article bitching about the front office again. If DS weekness is having to make big splashes JLC's weakness is having to trash him (Snyder) for petty reasons. And of course mine is bashing JLC.
Posted at 3:27 PM ET, 07/21/2008

The Immaculate Deception

There is a reason the media schlubs around here have a hard time believing a lot of what comes out of Vinny Cerrato's mouth, and a reason he has credibility issues. Yesterday was a prime example, though hardly unprecedented in these parts. Cerrato repeatedly denied the team was interested in Jason Taylor to the local media (via text, phone call, and then in front of the camera at a press conference), from about 2 pm right up until he tripped over his own feet entering the media room to announce the trade.

I'm not to worried about Vinny and JLC right about now since we've got some football to talk about. I can see, though, how the media has a little bit of distrust for the skins FO. A simple no comment would be the better response. This is nothing new as i don't believe alot of what comes from Vinny. He is a likeable guy though, he just needs to go to a Public Relations 101 basic learning class. He's not the first FO guy to bend the truth a little.

redsk1 · 07-22-2008, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

A few things stood out for me in this blog:

1) Springs is healthy and looks in great shape

2) Smoot is fine after yesterday's ankle issue.

3) JC sounds like he's about 50/50 hot & cold. To me at this point that's a good thing, it means his timing with the WRs is coming along. His knee is likely 100% and not effecting his throws. His errors are probably "read" errors (correctable).

4) Colt Brennan's release sounds a bit "Wuerfful-like". It sounds like he's put on some weight though.

The Official Blog of The Washington Redskins

Kosar had a strange throw as well but it worked. Not that CB is going to have a career like Bernie Kosar. Zorn will decide whether he wants to change that delivery.

Springs is a worker. I would have been suprised if he showed up in bad shape.

firstdown · 07-22-2008, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by redsk1

I'm not to worried about Vinny and JLC right about now since we've got some football to talk about. I can see, though, how the media has a little bit of distrust for the skins FO. A simple no comment would be the better response. This is nothing new as i don't believe alot of what comes from Vinny. He is a likeable guy though, he just needs to go to a Public Relations 101 basic learning class. He's not the first FO guy to bend the truth a little.

I just don't get why the media gets surprised when a FO member does not give them the answers they want. So what if he said no comment (which is as good as saying yes) or yes we are negotiating a trade if another team was looking at JT they may have derailed us from getting him. So thumbs up to VC for throwing off the media.

Mattyk72 · 07-22-2008, 11:13 AM

And I thought due to potential charges of tampering Vinny was well within his rights to say they weren't interested at that time. That JLC article just seems like sour grapes.

Schneed10 · 07-22-2008, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

I just don't get why the media gets surprised when a FO member does not give them the answers they want. So what if he said no comment (which is as good as saying yes) or yes we are negotiating a trade if another team was looking at JT they may have derailed us from getting him. So thumbs up to VC for throwing off the media.

The other thing I don't get, why does the media think they have any influence over what Vinny Cerrato does?

So he lied to you, and you didn't like it. Is he supposed to care? Why? What are you going to do, write a story about how he's a liar liar pants on fire? Toilet paper the trees in his front yard? Gimme a break.

Mattyk72 · 07-22-2008, 01:02 PM

The right thing is to coach him up the best they can and commit to him as the starter for the entire season... unless he's a total disaster which I simply don't see happening.

Paintrain · 07-22-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

The other thing I don't get, why does the media think they have any influence over what Vinny Cerrato does?

So he lied to you, and you didn't like it. Is he supposed to care? Why? What are you going to do, write a story about how he's a liar liar pants on fire? Toilet paper the trees in his front yard? Gimme a break.

They talked about this on WP Live yesterday on Comcast and general consensus is that it's a reporter thing and fans don't really give two craps about the FO lying to the media.. JLC was being a whiny little bitch about it.. There was no need to blog that other than to grind a personal ax..

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 07-22-2008, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

And I thought due to potential charges of tampering Vinny was well within his rights to say they weren't interested at that time. That JLC article just seems like sour grapes.

Exactly. Why does JLC think he has some right to know what the front office is thinking in regards to personnel decisions? Why would Vinny want other teams to know that the Redskins were thinking about acquiring Taylor, thereby potentially entering into a bidding war or getting slapped with tampering charges? Granted, Vinny could have responded to inquiries with "no comment," but that's tantamount to saying, "I absolutely confirm the validity of these rumors."

Either JLC (1) realizes that front offices' engage in subterfuge, deception, and outright lies; or (2) he is an idiot for believing that Vinny should be absolutely candid with the press. In any event, JLC seems like he has some serious personal beef with this front office. He never wastes an opportunity to blast the team. He might think he is just calling them like he sees them and the rest of us are dumb sheep, but I tend to think he is oftentimes unprofessional insofar as he is letting his personal biases color his perception of front office moves.

GhettoDogAllStars · 07-22-2008, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Exactly. Why does JLC think he has some right to know what the front office is thinking in regards to personnel decisions? Why would Vinny want other teams to know that the Redskins were thinking about acquiring Taylor, thereby potentially entering into a bidding war or getting slapped with tampering charges? Granted, Vinny could have responded to inquiries with "no comment," but that's tantamount to saying, "I absolutely confirm the validity of these rumors."

Either JLC (1) realizes that front offices' engage in subterfuge, deception, and outright lies; or (2) he is an idiot for believing that Vinny should be absolutely candid with the press. In any event, JLC seems like he has some serious personal beef with this front office. He never wastes an opportunity to blast the team. He might think he is just calling them like he sees them and the rest of us are dumb sheep, but I tend to think he is oftentimes unprofessional insofar as he is letting his personal biases color his perception of front office moves.

It's kinda cool that JLC is not a homer. I think he provides more scrutiny than a homer would, and I can sort through what is BS and what is substantial.

But yeah, it is funny that JLC wrote a blog about this. I thought it was common knowledge that FOs lie to the media.

Paintrain · 07-22-2008, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by hesscl34

JC's not happy with his own performance in practice, he said it himself... he let's the pressure get to him too much and over thinks. I hope you are right and he'll work out of it... but if not then the right thing to do is pull the plug before we are needing 6 straights wins to make the playoffs....

It's....day...three... Chill out.

Let's get into at least mid September before calling for the backup!

Mattyk72 · 07-22-2008, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by hesscl34

JC's not happy with his own performance in practice, he said it himself... he let's the pressure get to him too much and over thinks. I hope you are right and he'll work out of it... but if not then the right thing to do is pull the plug before we are needing 6 straights wins to make the playoffs....

We're not even done with day 3 of camp. Personally I like the fact he's critical of himself. He's probably not playing quite as bad as he thinks he is. He just needs to settle in. He'll be fine.

07-21-2008, 06:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
Slingin Sammy 33 Mess w/the bull & U get the Zorns Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 997	Non-Jason Taylor News (from Redskins Blog) A few things stood out for me in this blog: 1) Springs is healthy and looks in great shape 2) Smoot is fine after yesterday's ankle issue. 3) JC sounds like he's about 50/50 hot & cold. To me at this point that's a good thing, it means his timing with the WRs is coming along. His knee is likely 100% and not effecting his throws. His errors are probably "read" errors (correctable). 4) Colt Brennan's release sounds a bit "Wuerfful-like". It sounds like he's put on some weight though. The Official Blog of The Washington Redskins __________________ ...[If] an angel fairy came down and said, '[You can have anything]....you would like to own,' I wouldn't be surprised if you said a football club and particularly the Washington Redskins.'' — Jack Kent Cooke, 1996.

07-21-2008, 06:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
Dirtbag359 The Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Posts: 2,323	Re: Non-Jason Taylor News (from Redskins Blog) JLC also managed to write a beautiful article bitching about the front office again. If DS weekness is having to make big splashes JLC's weakness is having to trash him (Snyder) for petty reasons. And of course mine is bashing JLC. Posted at 3:27 PM ET, 07/21/2008 The Immaculate Deception There is a reason the media schlubs around here have a hard time believing a lot of what comes out of Vinny Cerrato's mouth, and a reason he has credibility issues. Yesterday was a prime example, though hardly unprecedented in these parts. Cerrato repeatedly denied the team was interested in Jason Taylor to the local media (via text, phone call, and then in front of the camera at a press conference), from about 2 pm right up until he tripped over his own feet entering the media room to announce the trade. __________________ "Hello God it's me again, Dr. Frasier Crane." - Frasier Crane

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BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: College Park; where they chop cars Posts: 5,607	Re: Non-Jason Taylor News (from Redskins Blog) In other news: Big ups to our depth! Depth serves teams well over course of NFL grind ---------- Word is Campbell is actually disappointed in the first couple days of camp. Hopefully that'll change before preseason starts. 13 days!!!@123 __________________ "For there is nothing half so glorious As to see our team victorious" --UMD Fight Song BSB-2010

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Mattyk72 custom user title Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Posts: 33,228	Re: Non-Jason Taylor News (from Redskins Blog) And I thought due to potential charges of tampering Vinny was well within his rights to say they weren't interested at that time. That JLC article just seems like sour grapes. __________________ Warpath VIP \| Warpath Shop \| DC Pro Sports Report

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Mattyk72 custom user title Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Posts: 33,228	Re: Non-Jason Taylor News (from Redskins Blog) The right thing is to coach him up the best they can and commit to him as the starter for the entire season... unless he's a total disaster which I simply don't see happening. __________________ Warpath VIP \| Warpath Shop \| DC Pro Sports Report

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