John Lynch is available, should we make a move?

prinzeofmoval · 07-31-2008, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jamf

No!
No more retreads.

At some point a player has to earn their roster spot. Make a young guy earn the spot and we will be better off down the road.

I like the sound of that...Its just fools gold that we always buy into..Lets stay strong face forward and leave John where he is.

vallin21 · 08-01-2008, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by wilsowilso

I wonder how many times we are going to have to go through this as the mass of aging veterans start getting released during the pre-season?

Let's try and follow some simple guidelines.

1. If the player is old as dirt don't bother.
2. If the player is washed up don't bother.
3. If the player doesn't address and area of need like LB don't bother.

ARE YOU SERIOUS!!!
First the guy is not washed up. Second he is a hard hitting Strong Safety. Third he would be a short term fix. Fourth He is a proven veteran (unlike Doughty) and he frees up Landry to make plays in the secondary. I would definitley sign him to a 1-2 year deal

Ruhskins · 08-01-2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by vallin21

ARE YOU SERIOUS!!!
First the guy is not washed up. Second he is a hard hitting Strong Safety. Third he would be a short term fix. Fourth He is a proven veteran (unlike Doughty) and he frees up Landry to make plays in the secondary. I would definitley sign him to a 1-2 year deal

The last time we signed a Safety who can't cover (Archuleta), it didn't worked out so well for the team. If we're going to sign a veteran, it should be at the LB position.

SmootSmack · 08-01-2008, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by vallin21

ARE YOU SERIOUS!!!
First the guy is not washed up. Second he is a hard hitting Strong Safety. Third he would be a short term fix. Fourth He is a proven veteran (unlike Doughty) and he frees up Landry to make plays in the secondary. I would definitley sign him to a 1-2 year deal

John Lynch in 2007: 59 tackles (46 solo) 1 sack, 3 passes defended
Adam Archuleta in 2006: 60 tackles (49 solo) 1 sack, 1 pass defended

The general consensus (I believe) is that Archuleta was a colossal failure for us (both from a personnnel management decision, and from a performance aspect) and yet what you're basically saying is you want someone who just last year recreated the same year Archuleta suffered through with the Redskins two years ago...and Lynch is six years older than Archuleta.

vallin21 · 08-01-2008, 02:32 PM

Who would you rather have Doughty or a proven vet in John Lynch?

Ruhskins · 08-01-2008, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by vallin21

Who would you rather have Doughty or a proven vet in John Lynch?

John Lynch 3+ years ago, but not now. We have greater needs at the LB position, and it would not be wise to spend our money on someone like Lynch. Besides, Lynch is most likely not coming back to the NFL.

GridIron26 · 08-01-2008, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by vallin21

Who would you rather have Doughty or a proven vet in John Lynch?

Didn't Doughty proved himself last season? And please look at SmootSmack's post above yours.. It says it all..

SmootSmack · 08-01-2008, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by vallin21

Who would you rather have Doughty or a proven vet in John Lynch?

Doughty

Proven vet in this case is simply a euphemism for "old guy with eroding skills who is past his prime"

Doughty on the other hand already has formed a bond with the rest of the secondary, he did what was asked of him last year, he knows his role on the team and he has upside.

RedskinRat · 08-04-2008, 07:29 AM

Doughty, with Horton as a very competent back-up. We're set!

SeanTaylor21SKINS · 08-04-2008, 01:46 PM

I don't think we should get him. If he was younger I might want him but we need to give
Doughty a chance. And with Horton's performance last night that gives us a little bit of depth. So from me it's a know.

vallin21 · 08-04-2008, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by EXoffender

I say yes if for the vet minnimum. Doughty tackled well early on but missed horribly on the Clark move towards the sideline (IND FG) and afterwards. Schweigert looked slow to react in what looked like a IND-flooded cover-2 zone which he gave up a TD. Horton may be given a shot with the starting D if this continues.

I agree. The more I see Horton the more I like him. Even though it is 1 game. He showed speed and hitting ability but I am worried about his coverage ability. With that I wouldn't be surprised if he started this year or next, but I will wait until preseason is over to say if he should start or not.

ChillWill · 08-04-2008, 10:07 PM

Doughty was not impressive Sunday night but Lynch will bring back memories of Adam Archuletta. He's lost a few steps. Maybe more than a few. Plus we have no cap space for him. Our Tackles are dropping, I'd rather invest in an OT.

Luxorreb · 08-05-2008, 03:02 AM

Not really in favor of signing Lynch, however releasing Schweigert opens up that possibility.

freddyg12 · 08-05-2008, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

John Lynch in 2007: 59 tackles (46 solo) 1 sack, 3 passes defended
Adam Archuleta in 2006: 60 tackles (49 solo) 1 sack, 1 pass defended

The general consensus (I believe) is that Archuleta was a colossal failure for us (both from a personnnel management decision, and from a performance aspect) and yet what you're basically saying is you want someone who just last year recreated the same year Archuleta suffered through with the Redskins two years ago...and Lynch is six years older than Archuleta.

Not playing devi's advocate smoot, but;
In all fairness to Lynch, he plays free safety w/the best corner tandem in the league, so his #s should be lower than Arch's, who played ss a lot here & was matched up 1 on 1 w/TE's a lot.

I think the main thing is the last you said, he's 6 years older than Arch & is definitely at the end of his career. I could only see him signing in dc if there was a serious rash of safety injuries, kinda like when we got Taylor after Daniels & Buzbee went down.

Mattyk · 08-05-2008, 09:11 AM

Lynch is done. Forget about it.

08-01-2008, 02:32 PM	#50
vallin21 The Starter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Vienna Va Posts: 1,024	Re: John Lynch is available, should we make a move? Who would you rather have Doughty or a proven vet in John Lynch?

08-04-2008, 07:29 AM	#54
RedskinRat Born a Rocker,Die a Rocker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 6,775	Re: John Lynch is available, should we make a move? Doughty, with Horton as a very competent back-up. We're set!

08-04-2008, 01:46 PM	#55
SeanTaylor21SKINS Camp Scrub Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 58	Re: John Lynch is available, should we make a move? I don't think we should get him. If he was younger I might want him but we need to give Doughty a chance. And with Horton's performance last night that gives us a little bit of depth. So from me it's a know. __________________ Hail To The Redskins!

08-04-2008, 10:07 PM	#57
ChillWill Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2004 Age: 58 Posts: 151	Re: John Lynch is available, should we make a move? Doughty was not impressive Sunday night but Lynch will bring back memories of Adam Archuletta. He's lost a few steps. Maybe more than a few. Plus we have no cap space for him. Our Tackles are dropping, I'd rather invest in an OT.

08-05-2008, 03:02 AM	#58
Luxorreb ^21^ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 1,601	Re: John Lynch is available, should we make a move? Not really in favor of signing Lynch, however releasing Schweigert opens up that possibility. __________________ GO SKINS!!! ^21^

08-05-2008, 09:11 AM	#60
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,653	Re: John Lynch is available, should we make a move? Lynch is done. Forget about it. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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