Mason v. Rock

mmil12 · 08-04-2008, 07:39 PM

After watching the first preseason game Mason looked much better then Rock. This has been the story for the past two preseasons. If the redskins only go with 3 backs on the open day roster does Mason have a shot given all the extras that Rock brings to the team? Thoughts?

mmil12 · 08-04-2008, 07:43 PM

I don't think they keep 4 RB's either. It's too bad because Mason appears to be a better fit for the running game that we run in DC. Could Betts possibly be on the way out? I've read on this site that he might be in jeopardy of getting cut.

Meks · 08-04-2008, 07:48 PM

trade betts 4 a few picks to get back what we spent on taylor.

keep mason & rock.

mmil12 · 08-04-2008, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meks

trade betts 4 a few picks to get back what we spent on taylor.

keep mason & rock.

Not a bad idea! I would stock piling a few draft picks for him. However, if we were going to do that we should've done it after his 1000 yard season. His value coming off last season is low. Plus, if CP gets hurt, I am much more comfortable with Ladell back there.

Meks · 08-04-2008, 07:55 PM

i'm not that big a fan of Betts... so i'm a little bias i guess but i like the idea of trading him for a few picks.

Big C · 08-04-2008, 08:05 PM

we have no idea how mason would do against actual starters in a regular season game. betts is proven in this league, mason is not. he had a good pre-season game, we should not jump to conclusions over one pre-season game. if portis were to go down, i would be extremely uncomfortable handing the run game over to someone who has no regular season experience and someone who hasnt run the ball in years in rock.

mmil12 · 08-04-2008, 08:06 PM

It's tough to trade Betts because he has proven to be a valuable back up in the past. However, the skins do have to ask themselves if they are willing to carry 4 RB's, cut Mason, cut Rock, or try and make a trade to an RB needy team. I don't think they can keep mason on the practice squad this year. The only way they do that is if they cut Devine...which I am all for! We don't need him as a 4th qb.

Dirtbag59 · 08-04-2008, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmil12

I don't think they keep 4 RB's either. It's too bad because Mason appears to be a better fit for the running game that we run in DC. Could Betts possibly be on the way out? I've read on this site that he might be in jeopardy of getting cut.

The way I worked it out we could easily carry 4 RB's on the roster (keep in mind I don't know how the ST units are put together outside of the K, P, and LS) but it's definately possible.

Edit: Shit I forgot it's a 53 man roster, not 55. Italics denote guys I cut after the fabled 55 man roster.

Offense (in no particular order) - 25 Players

QB

J. Campbell, T. Collins, C. Brennan

RB

C. Portis, L. Betts, R. Cartwright, M. Mason

FB

M. Sellers
WR
S. Moss, ARE, J. Thrash, M. Kelly, D. Thomas, A. Mix

TE

C. Cooley, F. Davis, T. Yoder

OL

J. Jansen, C. Samuals, S. Heyer, J. Fabini, P. Kendall, R. Thomas, C. Rhinehart, C. Rabach

Defense (in no particular order) - 25 Players

DT
C. Griffin, A. Montgomery, L. Alexander, K. Golston

DE
J. Taylor, A. Carter, C. Wilson, D. Evans, E. James
LB
M. Washington, R. McIntosh, K. Campbell, M. Sinclair, L. Fletcher, H. Blades
CB
S. Springs, F. Smoot, J. Tryon, C. Rogers, L. Torrence

S

R. Doughty, C. Horton, L. Landry, K. Moore, V. Fox

K/P/LS - 3 Players

S. Shuisam, D. Brooks, E. Albright

Practice Squad
Maurice Mann (WR), B. Westbrook (CB), Nemo (FB), C. Gatewood (LB), A. Crummey (C/G), R. Jackson (DE), Martell Richardson (CB)

Possible Midseason Callbacks Due to Injury
M. Askew (DT), R. Boschetti (DT), Billy McMullen (WR), Jason Goode (TE),

So as you can see it's very possible for Mason to win a roster spot. Also in this scenario Wade and Askew got cut so those are two that could easily change some time during the year. Boschetti also gets cut.

Meks · 08-04-2008, 08:21 PM

if tryon doesnt become more consistent hes P. squad.

SFREDSKIN · 08-04-2008, 08:46 PM

I love Mason's speed and slitherin style, I hope they keep both. This battle will last throught out the exhibiton season, if Mason shows this on a consistent basis then find a place for him, make a roster spot.

EternalEnigma21 · 08-04-2008, 09:07 PM

good question. I think because rock brings a good kick return, and great st'er overall, he'll take up any questionable roster spot. mason has shined every time he's had a shot, though. I think he may have a chance to be a great backup, and if we had someone that could return kicks and cover like rock, it may be considered.

trading betts... i don't know if we could get enough value for him. he's a good running back, but i don't know if anyone would give up a second for him...

rstone1979 · 08-04-2008, 09:11 PM

speaking of betts what is up with the linebacker Alfred Fincher having the same #46 as betts?

EternalEnigma21 · 08-04-2008, 09:24 PM

i think betts didnt' make the trip so the number was available.

vallin21 · 08-04-2008, 09:25 PM

He had #56 I think

Beemnseven · 08-04-2008, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

The way I worked it out we could easily carry 4 RB's on the roster (keep in mind I don't know how the ST units are put together outside of the K, P, and LS) but it's definately possible.

Edit: Shit I forgot it's a 53 man roster, not 55. Italics denote guys I cut after the fabled 55 man roster.

Offense (in no particular order) - 25 Players

QB

J. Campbell, T. Collins, C. Brennan

RB

C. Portis, L. Betts, R. Cartwright, M. Mason

FB

M. Sellers
WR
S. Moss, ARE, J. Thrash, M. Kelly, D. Thomas, A. Mix

TE

C. Cooley, F. Davis, T. Yoder

OL

J. Jansen, C. Samuals, S. Heyer, J. Fabini, P. Kendall, R. Thomas, C. Rhinehart, C. Rabach

Defense (in no particular order) - 25 Players

DT
C. Griffin, A. Montgomery, L. Alexander, K. Golston

DE
J. Taylor, A. Carter, C. Wilson, D. Evans, E. James
LB
M. Washington, R. McIntosh, K. Campbell, M. Sinclair, L. Fletcher, H. Blades
CB
S. Springs, F. Smoot, J. Tryon, C. Rogers, L. Torrence

S

R. Doughty, C. Horton, L. Landry, K. Moore, V. Fox

K/P/LS - 3 Players

S. Shuisam, D. Brooks, E. Albright

Practice Squad
Maurice Mann (WR), B. Westbrook (CB), Nemo (FB), C. Gatewood (LB), A. Crummey (C/G), R. Jackson (DE), Martell Richardson (CB)

Possible Midseason Callbacks Due to Injury
M. Askew (DT), R. Boschetti (DT), Billy McMullen (WR), Jason Goode (TE),

So as you can see it's very possible for Mason to win a roster spot. Also in this scenario Wade and Askew got cut so those are two that could easily change some time during the year. Boschetti also gets cut.

No way they keep six wideouts -- there'll be five at most, and then one would be inactive every week. I believe the rule of thumb is to keep 9 or 10 offensive linemen. That means Mix is gone, unless he can unseat Thrash. I don't see that happening.

Nemo can't be on the practice squad anymore since this is his third year.

I think they'll also need one more fullback behind Sellers. That makes Mason the odd man out.

08-04-2008, 07:39 PM	#1
mmil12 Special Teams Join Date: May 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 106	Mason v. Rock After watching the first preseason game Mason looked much better then Rock. This has been the story for the past two preseasons. If the redskins only go with 3 backs on the open day roster does Mason have a shot given all the extras that Rock brings to the team? Thoughts?

08-04-2008, 07:43 PM	#2
mmil12 Special Teams Join Date: May 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 106	Re: Mason v. Rock I don't think they keep 4 RB's either. It's too bad because Mason appears to be a better fit for the running game that we run in DC. Could Betts possibly be on the way out? I've read on this site that he might be in jeopardy of getting cut.

08-04-2008, 07:48 PM	#3
Meks The Starter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Jersey Age: 27 Posts: 1,744	Re: Mason v. Rock trade betts 4 a few picks to get back what we spent on taylor. keep mason & rock. __________________ NFL officiating is BY FAR the worst in proffessional sports. Except no substitutions... worse or not!! R.I.P #21SEAN TAYLOR

08-04-2008, 08:05 PM	#6
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Fairfax, Virginia Age: 26 Posts: 4,423	Re: Mason v. Rock we have no idea how mason would do against actual starters in a regular season game. betts is proven in this league, mason is not. he had a good pre-season game, we should not jump to conclusions over one pre-season game. if portis were to go down, i would be extremely uncomfortable handing the run game over to someone who has no regular season experience and someone who hasnt run the ball in years in rock. __________________ "I don't care what nobody say I'm a be me, stay hood stay real, cause I'm out here grindin'" -Joe Gibbs

08-04-2008, 08:06 PM	#7
mmil12 Special Teams Join Date: May 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 106	Re: Mason v. Rock It's tough to trade Betts because he has proven to be a valuable back up in the past. However, the skins do have to ask themselves if they are willing to carry 4 RB's, cut Mason, cut Rock, or try and make a trade to an RB needy team. I don't think they can keep mason on the practice squad this year. The only way they do that is if they cut Devine...which I am all for! We don't need him as a 4th qb.

08-04-2008, 07:55 PM	#5
Meks The Starter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Jersey Age: 27 Posts: 1,744	Re: Mason v. Rock i'm not that big a fan of Betts... so i'm a little bias i guess but i like the idea of trading him for a few picks. __________________ NFL officiating is BY FAR the worst in proffessional sports. Except no substitutions... worse or not!! R.I.P #21SEAN TAYLOR

08-04-2008, 08:21 PM	#9
Meks The Starter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Jersey Age: 27 Posts: 1,744	Re: Mason v. Rock if tryon doesnt become more consistent hes P. squad. __________________ NFL officiating is BY FAR the worst in proffessional sports. Except no substitutions... worse or not!! R.I.P #21SEAN TAYLOR

08-04-2008, 08:46 PM	#10
SFREDSKIN Pro Bowl Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 6,501	Re: Mason v. Rock I love Mason's speed and slitherin style, I hope they keep both. This battle will last throught out the exhibiton season, if Mason shows this on a consistent basis then find a place for him, make a roster spot. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

08-04-2008, 09:07 PM	#11
EternalEnigma21 Assistant Regional Mod Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Warrenton VA Age: 33 Posts: 2,953	Re: Mason v. Rock good question. I think because rock brings a good kick return, and great st'er overall, he'll take up any questionable roster spot. mason has shined every time he's had a shot, though. I think he may have a chance to be a great backup, and if we had someone that could return kicks and cover like rock, it may be considered. trading betts... i don't know if we could get enough value for him. he's a good running back, but i don't know if anyone would give up a second for him... __________________ Need electrical work in the Northern VA, or Shenandoah Valley? Click here ...and why do we still have a Tom Tupa avatar???

08-04-2008, 09:11 PM	#12
rstone1979 Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Midlothian, VA Age: 34 Posts: 103	Re: Mason v. Rock speaking of betts what is up with the linebacker Alfred Fincher having the same #46 as betts?

08-04-2008, 09:24 PM	#13
EternalEnigma21 Assistant Regional Mod Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Warrenton VA Age: 33 Posts: 2,953	Re: Mason v. Rock i think betts didnt' make the trip so the number was available. __________________ Need electrical work in the Northern VA, or Shenandoah Valley? Click here ...and why do we still have a Tom Tupa avatar???

08-04-2008, 09:25 PM	#14
vallin21 The Starter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Vienna Va Posts: 1,024	Re: Mason v. Rock He had #56 I think

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