Mattyk72 presents: The Warpath Zornometer Poll™

mauiRedskinbarn · 08-06-2008, 04:49 PM

Draft -Pretty Good
Offseason Moves - Pretty Good
Pre-season Game - Dam Good
Training Camp - Great

I see no reason not to give him a 4 or 5, He's seemed to done everything perfect thus far. No crazy outlandish garbage, but good, solid, aggresive moves. Without Jason Taylor I would definetly lower my grade, he got that deal done in 2 hours. Lets just hope that he doesn't start salsa dancing his way to the QB. Zorn's the man thus far, and as of right now I got mad faith in this cat. He's impressed me to the point where I actually think we have a chance at making the playoff's. And beat the cowgirls in Week 3. I gave him a 5

Schneed10 · 08-06-2008, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mauiRedskinbarn

Draft -Pretty Good
Offseason Moves - Pretty Good
Pre-season Game - Dam Good
Training Camp - Great

I see no reason not to give him a 4 or 5, He's seemed to done everything perfect thus far. No crazy outlandish garbage, but good, solid, aggresive moves. Without Jason Taylor I would definetly lower my grade, he got that deal done in 2 hours. Lets just hope that he doesn't start salsa dancing his way to the QB. Zorn's the man thus far, and as of right now I got mad faith in this cat. He's impressed me to the point where I actually think we have a chance at making the playoff's. And beat the cowgirls in Week 3. I gave him a 5

Seems like you're grading Vinny more than you are Zorn.

Slingin Sammy 33 · 08-06-2008, 05:08 PM

I voted a 3. I love the attention to detail, the improvements in JC's mechanics, so far the O looks solid and pretty fluid (but it is pre-season). I like the cut-back lanes that appear to be opening, that didn't in Gibbs/Saunders more compressed formations.

Also, no off-the-field issues with players or coaches power struggles/bickering. We've got a ways to go, but so far so good.

wolfeskins · 08-06-2008, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by hesscl34

1.5 (.5 being for his first pre-season game) - he's never coached a team before. With every passing game I'll increase my rating, or it will remain 1.5. He has to prove himself first.

i think some of you are misinterpreting the question. it's not how you think zorn is gonna do in the future, it's rank your CURRENT feelings. basicaly, how has he done thus far. i would CURRENTLY give a 5 . i know this could all come to a screaching halt but CURRENTLY i couldn't be more thrilled. the players really seem upbeat, they seem to be taking a liking to the new offense and to his coaching style and even though it was only a preseason game, the team looked pretty good. they were efficiant on offense, stingy on defense and they played smart.

mooby · 08-06-2008, 08:09 PM

He gets a 3 from me right now. It's been one preseason game, way too early to accurately judge how good of a coach he is. I will say this, if he shows me good stuff in the regular season my confidence in him will grow.

DIRTEE · 08-06-2008, 09:29 PM

I like the direction of the team; its not all Zorn. I'm thankful they took their time to select him. Hope all goes well.

RedskinRat · 08-07-2008, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by saden1

Given this:

"Rank your current confidence level in Zorn with 5 being total confidence and 1 being none."

It seems to me that 3 would be the natural choice seeing he hasn't done squat-diddly for me to give him positive or negative confidence rating. Also, pre-season doesn't build confidence...not when you subscribe to sadenism anyways.

As I said, what I've seen so far I like. But then I'm no Sadenist.

Given your position vis a vis pre-season you shouldn't have answered the Poll until after the first regular season game, right?

I subscribe to Rattist Zen. Costs me $10 a month.

Skinsfanmania · 08-07-2008, 08:42 AM

5. for the reason that he is the right person for this team and most importantly JC and for that matter, CB.

GhettoDogAllStars · 08-07-2008, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by wolfeskins

i think some of you are misinterpreting the question. it's not how you think zorn is gonna do in the future, it's rank your CURRENT feelings. basicaly, how has he done thus far. i would CURRENTLY give a 5 . i know this could all come to a screaching halt but CURRENTLY i couldn't be more thrilled. the players really seem upbeat, they seem to be taking a liking to the new offense and to his coaching style and even though it was only a preseason game, the team looked pretty good. they were efficiant on offense, stingy on defense and they played smart.

I'm thrilled too. I'm happy, excited, satisfied, and by golly I just feel good about Jim Zorn. However, I'm not totally confident.

I guess the question is somewhat vague. I took it to mean, "Do you have confidence that Jim Zorn is going to succeed?" The next Zornometer must not be so ambiguous!

wolfeskins · 08-07-2008, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by hesscl34

Still 1.5.

i'm not trying to start an arguement with you or anything but why just a 1.5. do you not think he's been good thus far, from the day he was hired as head coach till today. have you seen something that you find troubling? something that i might not be seeing.

wolfeskins · 08-07-2008, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

I guess the question is somewhat vague. I took it to mean, "Do you have confidence that Jim Zorn is going to succeed?" The next Zornometer must not be so ambiguous!

you could be right, maybe i'm the one misinterpreting the question.

wolfeskins · 08-07-2008, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by hesscl34

I just don't think his coaching job is all that hard right now. It won't really get hard until the season starts and then we will see the real coach. So I don't want to give him a 5. Anybody could come in and make things better just because they are different. It's like meeting a new girlfriend/boyfriend.. the rose colored glasses are always on at first, and then later the truth comes out. He's been good so far, normal I'd say. Nothing I wouldn't expect has happened, but nothing I'm going to call home about either. We have a great group of players out there that should be making it rather easy for him in my opinion. You want me to give someone a 5? I give it to our Skins... the players. When things start getting tough during the season is when we'll see if this coach shines or not. I hate giving too much credit to a coah for something I'm not so sure he deserve yet.

fair enough. to me though, things just seem different from these past couple seasons. i know it's only been one game but the team just seemed more together or there was less confusion out there. i'm sorry, i'm not doing a good job explaining it, things just seem different.

EternalEnigma21 · 08-07-2008, 09:00 PM

I didn't read all of the posts, but will take time to scroll back through tomorrow. I was completely going to suggest a weekly approval poll... as it would be much more interesting and less emotional without Joe Gibbs as the head coach

I gave him a 4, but if it were a 10 point scale I would have given him a 6. I have above average confidence in him, but not at an 80% point yet... more like 60-65...

Mattyk · 08-08-2008, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by hesscl34

I just don't think his coaching job is all that hard right now. It won't really get hard until the season starts and then we will see the real coach. So I don't want to give him a 5. Anybody could come in and make things better just because they are different. It's like meeting a new girlfriend/boyfriend.. the rose colored glasses are always on at first, and then later the truth comes out. He's been good so far, normal I'd say. Nothing I wouldn't expect has happened, but nothing I'm going to call home about either. We have a great group of players out there that should be making it rather easy for him in my opinion. You want me to give someone a 5? I give it to our Skins... the players. When things start getting tough during the season is when we'll see if this coach shines or not. I hate giving too much credit to a coah for something I'm not so sure he deserve yet.

I think the job that coaches do during the offseason is just as important as the regular season, maybe more so in regard to certain areas. As a rookie head coach he's had to install his offense and convey his principles and beliefs to the players, and in the process hopefully get them to buy in to what he's selling. I think you're really underestimating what he's done so far. To say that what he's done so far isn't all that hard tells me you either don't really understand what he's done to date, or you just want to slam him for some reason.

Mattyk · 08-08-2008, 10:05 AM

I guess there's always gotta be someone to throw off the curve.

I wasn't accusing you of anything. Lighten up.

View Poll Results: Rank your current confidence level in Zorn with 5 being total confidence and 1 being none
5	42	23.60%
4	76	42.70%
3	44	24.72%
2	5	2.81%
1	11	6.18%
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08-06-2008, 04:49 PM	#46
mauiRedskinbarn Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hawaii Posts: 60	Re: Mattyk72 presents: The Warpath Zornometer Poll™ Draft -Pretty Good Offseason Moves - Pretty Good Pre-season Game - Dam Good Training Camp - Great I see no reason not to give him a 4 or 5, He's seemed to done everything perfect thus far. No crazy outlandish garbage, but good, solid, aggresive moves. Without Jason Taylor I would definetly lower my grade, he got that deal done in 2 hours. Lets just hope that he doesn't start salsa dancing his way to the QB. Zorn's the man thus far, and as of right now I got mad faith in this cat. He's impressed me to the point where I actually think we have a chance at making the playoff's. And beat the cowgirls in Week 3. I gave him a 5 __________________ "The heart of the D, the soul of the squad, noone in the NFL could hit half as hard"

08-06-2008, 05:08 PM	#48
Slingin Sammy 33 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 4,320	Re: Mattyk72 presents: The Warpath Zornometer Poll™ I voted a 3. I love the attention to detail, the improvements in JC's mechanics, so far the O looks solid and pretty fluid (but it is pre-season). I like the cut-back lanes that appear to be opening, that didn't in Gibbs/Saunders more compressed formations. Also, no off-the-field issues with players or coaches power struggles/bickering. We've got a ways to go, but so far so good. __________________ "I would bet.....(if), an angel fairy came down and said, '[You can have anything] in the world you would like to own,' I wouldn't be surprised if you said a football club and particularly the Washington Redskins.'' — Jack Kent Cooke, 1996.

08-06-2008, 08:09 PM	#50
mooby MVP Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NoVa Age: 26 Posts: 11,818	Re: Mattyk72 presents: The Warpath Zornometer Poll™ He gets a 3 from me right now. It's been one preseason game, way too early to accurately judge how good of a coach he is. I will say this, if he shows me good stuff in the regular season my confidence in him will grow.

08-06-2008, 09:29 PM	#51
DIRTEE Special Teams Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 256	Re: Mattyk72 presents: The Warpath Zornometer Poll™ I like the direction of the team; its not all Zorn. I'm thankful they took their time to select him. Hope all goes well.

08-07-2008, 08:42 AM	#53
Skinsfanmania Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 122	Re: Mattyk72 presents: The Warpath Zornometer Poll™ 5. for the reason that he is the right person for this team and most importantly JC and for that matter, CB.

08-07-2008, 09:00 PM	#58
EternalEnigma21 Assistant Regional Mod Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Warrenton VA Age: 34 Posts: 2,953	Re: Mattyk72 presents: The Warpath Zornometer Poll™ I didn't read all of the posts, but will take time to scroll back through tomorrow. I was completely going to suggest a weekly approval poll... as it would be much more interesting and less emotional without Joe Gibbs as the head coach I gave him a 4, but if it were a 10 point scale I would have given him a 6. I have above average confidence in him, but not at an 80% point yet... more like 60-65... __________________ Need electrical work in the Northern VA, or Shenandoah Valley? Click here ...and why do we still have a Tom Tupa avatar???

08-08-2008, 10:05 AM	#60
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 41 Posts: 80,655	Re: Mattyk72 presents: The Warpath Zornometer Poll™ I guess there's always gotta be someone to throw off the curve. I wasn't accusing you of anything. Lighten up. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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