Shouldn't Sean Taylor.............

rypper11 · 08-06-2008, 09:54 PM

There was also a dozen guys on the show who "just missed" and at the least Sean should've been on there. I like NFLN's top ten shows because they focus on just one aspect of the game. As for feared tacklers, he had to play at a time when most of Lambert, Butkus and Night Train's hits would gotten him ejected.
When Ray Lewis was bragging about lighting up Marshall Faulk in the ProBowl I wanted to at least see the greatest hit in ProBowl history.... #21 obliterating Moorman.

vallin21 · 08-06-2008, 09:57 PM

I agree there should've been some tribute or a mention of Sean. That would have been nice to see.

GINeric · 08-06-2008, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by vallin21

I agree there should've been some tribute or a mention of Sean. That would have been nice to see.

Yeah, because it's probably going to be 10 to 20 years before we see a athlete like this come along again.

Giantone · 08-07-2008, 03:20 AM

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The DECLEATER Record. The forced ALLIGATOR ARM Record. The LOOK BEFORE YOU CATCH THE BALL AND DROPPED IT RECORD.

.........thanks.

Giantone · 08-07-2008, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by wilsowilso

Don't make me laugh Giantone. John Lynch was not anywhere near Sean Taylor in terms of destroying people. Lynch could lay a great lick on somebody that's for sure, but you are fooling yourself if you think they were even in the same class of pure hitting ferocity because it's not even close. While we are at it none of the people on your list compares to Taylor in this regard. It's not about a long body of work at all. It took just one or two seasons for Sean Taylor to become the badest man in the entire NFL with regards to hard hits. He basically was in a class by himself.

............we agree,to disagree.

Giantone · 08-07-2008, 03:27 AM

Chuck Benardik,LT,Sam Huff............in their day were all the best at one time.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 08-07-2008, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

Look first off,no one can find anything I've said that's negative about ST!He was good,very good but to anoint him as a saint and all super HOF I think is wrong.Second and I mean this, all I'm talking about is football...nothing else.We will never know simple as that,we can wish ,hope or dream but he could have blown out a knee and never played again...................nobody knows that's all I'm saying .

Giantone might not hold ST's skills in the high regard that many of us do, but he hasn't taken any cheap shots at Taylor. Giantone is just disagreeing with us, which is fine.

That said, I have never seen a guy hit like Taylor. I've seen Lynch, Lott, and others hit, but none of them hit quite like Taylor. Taylor would miss a lot of tackles because he was running at full speed, but that's also why he tended to blow people up when he made contact. You'd see a RB running 3-4 yards, a flash come in from the backfield and, all of the sudden, the forward progress would come to halt immediately. I think Brandon Jacobs said that he had never seen someone play as though they had multiple bodies (i.e., hitting without regard to one's own body).

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 08-07-2008, 10:34 AM

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I love T.O. because of his talent and because he plays for the Cowboys, but I have never in his whole career, seen him play as cautious as he did when he played against the Skins.

As you might expect, I agree. T.O. never played all that well against the Redskins when Taylor was in the game, and lit us up when Taylor was absent. I remember one play where T.O. went up for a jump ball, had it in his hands, looked and saw Taylor coming, and curled up into the fetal position to brace for contact.

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I bet you Plaxico would consider him one of the most feared tacklers in NFL history.

Plaxico said Taylor was the biggest, most feared hitter in the league. I think an SI players poll revealed the same thing.

firstdown · 08-07-2008, 10:56 AM

Its very simple. There have been some very hard hitters who played with no reguard for themself and ST was one of those players. What would have he become its hard to say because there are so many factors that play apart in football.

Giantone · 08-07-2008, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Its very simple. There have been some very hard hitters who played with no reguard for themself and ST was one of those players. What would have he become its hard to say because there are so many factors that play apart in football.

I agree,there have been some great hitters during the 75 some odd years of the NFL,Riggins said the hardest he ever got hit was by Harry Carson.Players have said the hardest hitter during one point was Earl Campbell.

SkinzzFan · 08-07-2008, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

I agree,there have been some great hitters during the 75 some odd years of the NFL,Riggins said the hardest he ever got hit was by Harry Carson.Players have said the hardest hitter during one point was Earl Campbell.

I understand Earl Campbell did "hit" guys during his career, but isn't this based on defensive "hitters"? I mean we could add (at least in the modern era) Christian Okoye, Mike Alstott, Mike Sellers, Lorenzo Neal, Brandon Jacobs, etc to the list of running backs you just don't want to see coming your way. I'm sure I've left off many great RB/FBs, but the original list obviously had some ommissions, thus the conversation. I've never been hit by any of these guys and I'm sure there are 15-20 players being left off this list. As I recall, Steve Atwater played with another big hitter in Dennis Smith. He was definitely no slouch. Bottom line is there is just no way for two guys to come up with the same list of players when comparing different era's (and positions) for ANY category in ANY sport.

HAIL!!

Giantone · 08-07-2008, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinzzFan

I understand Earl Campbell did "hit" guys during his career, but isn't this based on defensive "hitters"? I mean we could add (at least in the modern era) Christian Okoye, Mike Alstott, Mike Sellers, Lorenzo Neal, Brandon Jacobs, etc to the list of running backs you just don't want to see coming your way. I'm sure I've left off many great RB/FBs, but the original list obviously had some ommissions, thus the conversation. I've never been hit by any of these guys and I'm sure there are 15-20 players being left off this list. As I recall, Steve Atwater played with another big hitter in Dennis Smith. He was definitely no slouch. Bottom line is there is just no way for two guys to come up with the same list of players when comparing different era's (and positions) for ANY category in ANY sport.

HAIL!!

Word!

prinzeofmoval · 08-07-2008, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

don't know #5, and #8 had to be up there with Mike Vick, as far as being over rated. Taylor simply didnt play long enough. everyone on that list had nice, long careers

Mike Vick was no way near over rated..He changed the quarterback game like Taylor did for linebacking. If Vick had any receiver help he would've been a force to reckon with. As far as the list its seems pretty accurate to me.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 08-07-2008, 10:21 PM

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Maybe Sean was the BEST to some of you, but he was to us.. and we will always remember him that way:

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That video just kills me each time I see it.

prinzeofmoval · 08-07-2008, 10:47 PM

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Vick defined the word overrated and he didn't change the game at all. Whenever he faced well coached defenses that didn't allow him to run wild he struggled. He was an amazingly elusive as well as amazingly average NFL QB. For all the hype he might be one of the most overrated players ever.

So your telling me you wouldn't want him on your team? Yeah right.. if he had a Moss or T.o. watch out.. He would make you respect his arm or his legs either way you can't watch both. It wasn't the coachs that stopped him thats for sure it was the lack of supporting cast that did. Outside of Dunn who was a hit or miss some games and Santiago who else can you honestly say he had to help. He was the human highlight reel.

08-06-2008, 09:54 PM	#31
rypper11 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Winston Salem, NC Posts: 1,217	Re: Shouldn't Sean Taylor............. There was also a dozen guys on the show who "just missed" and at the least Sean should've been on there. I like NFLN's top ten shows because they focus on just one aspect of the game. As for feared tacklers, he had to play at a time when most of Lambert, Butkus and Night Train's hits would gotten him ejected. When Ray Lewis was bragging about lighting up Marshall Faulk in the ProBowl I wanted to at least see the greatest hit in ProBowl history.... #21 obliterating Moorman. __________________ Playing a kids game for a kings ransom.

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vallin21 The Starter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Vienna Va Posts: 1,025	Re: Shouldn't Sean Taylor............. I agree there should've been some tribute or a mention of Sean. That would have been nice to see.

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Giantone Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,675	Re: Shouldn't Sean Taylor............. Chuck Benardik,LT,Sam Huff............in their day were all the best at one time.

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firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 49 Posts: 15,206	Re: Shouldn't Sean Taylor............. Its very simple. There have been some very hard hitters who played with no reguard for themself and ST was one of those players. What would have he become its hard to say because there are so many factors that play apart in football.

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