RI: Taylor Puts on a Defensive Show

Mattyk · 08-13-2008, 10:03 AM

In further Jason Taylor news, he participated fully and took part in all team drills. In fact, Jasno reports that, with first-team offense going against first-team defense, he tossed Jon Jansen to the ground "like a wet rag" a good three yards behind the quarterback on one play That generated a chorus of "oohs" from the sidelines.

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PSUSkinsFan21 · 08-13-2008, 10:15 AM

Is it possible to be both happy and concerned about this? A wet rag for a starting tackle....not so good. It'll be nice seeing McNabb, Manning and Romo all get crushed this year though.

ChillWill · 08-13-2008, 10:18 AM

I don't know if this is good news or not. Glad to hear that the Plantar is not hindering Jason but I am concerned about Jansen's lack of mobility. I think are best right tackle will be Stephon Heyer once he get's healthy. Jon is still good on running downs but he is vulnerable on passing downs. Also I don't like the fact that Jason communicated it like that. Am I reading too much into it.

firstdown · 08-13-2008, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by PSUSkinsFan21

Is it possible to be both happy and concerned about this? A wet rag for a starting tackle....not so good. It'll be nice seeing McNabb, Manning and Romo all get crushed this year though.

Well if he was three yards past the QB when he tossed him to the ground it sounds like Jansen blocked him as he rushed past the QB who should have thrown the ball durn that time. Its also just one play they are talking about.

GhettoDogAllStars · 08-13-2008, 10:22 AM

Heyer wouldn't have done any better. JT is an elite DE and most likely headed for the HoF. There are few, if any, tackles in the league that can stop him. My concerns with Jansen aren't based on the fact he gets beat by JT -- that's what should happen.

freddyg12 · 08-13-2008, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by PSUSkinsFan21

Is it possible to be both happy and concerned about this? A wet rag for a starting tackle....not so good. It'll be nice seeing McNabb, Manning and Romo all get crushed this year though.

yeah, good news & bad news. That RT spot might be a concern all year. I hope it's just taking JJ a while to get back to form. He's past his prime though.

Heyer might've been a good success story last year but that doesn't mean he's ready to hold down the position full time. He was 'relatively good' last year, but certianly not 'good.'

Mattyk · 08-13-2008, 10:23 AM

I wouldn't read into it much. Have we heard any stories about OL tossing guys around in practice this preseason? I haven't. But I'm sure it's happened. It's just a sexier story when it's Jason Taylor doing the tossing around.

firstdown · 08-13-2008, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ChillWill

I don't know if this is good news or not. Glad to hear that the Plantar is not hindering Jason but I am concerned about Jansen's lack of mobility. I think are best right tackle will be Stephon Heyer once he get's healthy. Jon is still good on running downs but he is vulnerable on passing downs. Also I don't like the fact that Jason communicated it like that. Am I reading too much into it.

The same Heyer who got burnt like crisp toast in the playoffs last year and was thrown around like a wet rag.

Mattyk · 08-13-2008, 10:24 AM

For the Heyer supporters there was a clip on NFLN not too long ago and JT schooled him too.

freddyg12 · 08-13-2008, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

Heyer wouldn't have done any better. JT is an elite DE and most likely headed for the HoF. There are few, if any, tackles in the league that can stop him. My concerns with Jansen aren't based on the fact he gets beat by JT -- that's what should happen.

true, but he'll have to go against some pretty good ends this year. Anthony Spencer is young & quick, Philly always has a good d line & of course the g-men have pass rushers even w/out strahan.

ChillWill · 08-13-2008, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

The same Heyer who got burnt like crisp toast in the playoffs last year and was thrown around like a wet rag.

I'm hoping that this will not be one soggy side of the field this year. As I watched that playoff game it sure seems like Stephon needed more help to chip that DE. I'm sure Buges will get them ready cause the Giants will certainly give us an indication of where we are.

GTripp0012 · 08-13-2008, 11:02 AM

Let's not get all up in arms over this. Jason Taylor is a much better pass rusher than Jon Jansen ever was a pass blocker. That's all there is to this.

Jansen will be able to handle non-Taylor left ends just fine.

In fact, here's who he will be blocking this year: Justin Tuck, Charles Grant, Victor Adeyanju, Darren Howard/Chris Clemons, Greg Ellis, Bertrand Berry, Willie McGinest, DeWayne White, James Harrison/Lawrence Timmons, Patrick Kerney, Jarrett Johnson, Antwaan Odom, and Justin Smith. Out of all those guys, only Tuck, Grant, White, Johnson, and Odom are in their primes. Tuck might give Jansen fits, but the rest of the year, he's more than capable of picking up his assignments.

Maybe we'll need a new tackle next year, but we're okay this year, at least for now.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 08-13-2008, 11:12 AM

Thanks for the informative post GTripp. I am, however, a little more pessimistic about Jansen. Justin Tuck, Charles Grant, Greg Ellis, Bertrand Berry, and Patrick Kerney are all better DEs than Jansen is an OT.

Jansen has been MIA lately, but, in the limited action I've seen him in, he has looked bad. He looked bad last preseason and he's looked sub-par this preseason. I'm pretty concerned about him.

firstdown · 08-13-2008, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

For the Heyer supporters there was a clip on NFLN not too long ago and JT schooled him too.

If I'm correct JT has never had a sack against the Skins.

firstdown · 08-13-2008, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ChillWill

I'm hoping that this will not be one soggy side of the field this year. As I watched that playoff game it sure seems like Stephon needed more help to chip that DE. I'm sure Buges will get them ready cause the Giants will certainly give us an indication of where we are.

I was just kind of repeating what was said about Jansen and saying it about Heyer. I think even though Heyer had a bad playoff game I think he is going to be fine this year and will see the field alott.

08-13-2008, 10:03 AM	#1
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,653	RI: Taylor Puts on a Defensive Show In further Jason Taylor news, he participated fully and took part in all team drills. In fact, Jasno reports that, with first-team offense going against first-team defense, he tossed Jon Jansen to the ground "like a wet rag" a good three yards behind the quarterback on one play That generated a chorus of "oohs" from the sidelines. More... __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

08-13-2008, 10:15 AM	#2
PSUSkinsFan21 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Philadelphia, PA Age: 36 Posts: 1,340	Re: RI: Taylor Puts on a Defensive Show Is it possible to be both happy and concerned about this? A wet rag for a starting tackle....not so good. It'll be nice seeing McNabb, Manning and Romo all get crushed this year though. __________________ "Hail to the Redskins!" and "Fight on State!"

08-13-2008, 10:18 AM	#3
ChillWill Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2004 Age: 58 Posts: 151	Re: RI: Taylor Puts on a Defensive Show I don't know if this is good news or not. Glad to hear that the Plantar is not hindering Jason but I am concerned about Jansen's lack of mobility. I think are best right tackle will be Stephon Heyer once he get's healthy. Jon is still good on running downs but he is vulnerable on passing downs. Also I don't like the fact that Jason communicated it like that. Am I reading too much into it.

08-13-2008, 10:22 AM	#5
GhettoDogAllStars Playmaker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Age: 31 Posts: 2,759	Re: RI: Taylor Puts on a Defensive Show Heyer wouldn't have done any better. JT is an elite DE and most likely headed for the HoF. There are few, if any, tackles in the league that can stop him. My concerns with Jansen aren't based on the fact he gets beat by JT -- that's what should happen. __________________ To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered.

08-13-2008, 10:23 AM	#7
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,653	Re: RI: Taylor Puts on a Defensive Show I wouldn't read into it much. Have we heard any stories about OL tossing guys around in practice this preseason? I haven't. But I'm sure it's happened. It's just a sexier story when it's Jason Taylor doing the tossing around. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

08-13-2008, 10:24 AM	#9
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,653	Re: RI: Taylor Puts on a Defensive Show For the Heyer supporters there was a clip on NFLN not too long ago and JT schooled him too. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

08-13-2008, 11:02 AM	#12
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Age: 25 Posts: 15,143	Re: RI: Taylor Puts on a Defensive Show Let's not get all up in arms over this. Jason Taylor is a much better pass rusher than Jon Jansen ever was a pass blocker. That's all there is to this. Jansen will be able to handle non-Taylor left ends just fine. In fact, here's who he will be blocking this year: Justin Tuck, Charles Grant, Victor Adeyanju, Darren Howard/Chris Clemons, Greg Ellis, Bertrand Berry, Willie McGinest, DeWayne White, James Harrison/Lawrence Timmons, Patrick Kerney, Jarrett Johnson, Antwaan Odom, and Justin Smith. Out of all those guys, only Tuck, Grant, White, Johnson, and Odom are in their primes. Tuck might give Jansen fits, but the rest of the year, he's more than capable of picking up his assignments. Maybe we'll need a new tackle next year, but we're okay this year, at least for now. __________________ Shanahan: “The bad thing is he's [Sav Rocca] probably our best offensive weapon and that’s not good.”

08-13-2008, 11:12 AM	#13
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 34 Posts: 8,317	Re: RI: Taylor Puts on a Defensive Show Thanks for the informative post GTripp. I am, however, a little more pessimistic about Jansen. Justin Tuck, Charles Grant, Greg Ellis, Bertrand Berry, and Patrick Kerney are all better DEs than Jansen is an OT. Jansen has been MIA lately, but, in the limited action I've seen him in, he has looked bad. He looked bad last preseason and he's looked sub-par this preseason. I'm pretty concerned about him.

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