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Old 08-19-2008, 11:04 PM   #76
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dmvskinsfan08 - you have a thick skin. I'm proud of you!
Thanks man. I love my team. I just want to see them beat the crap out of some QBs. I would love to see Tony Romo banged up and slammed on his head. Would love to see Eli getting driven into the ground and caouging up the ball. Would love to see McNabb trying to run for a first down and get wiped out and limping to the sidelines..That's all I ask..lol. Sorry for being so critical of the D-Line. But I grew up watching Dexter Manely & Charles Mann. I miss that..sorry
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Old 08-19-2008, 11:05 PM   #77
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It's only preseason man, relax
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Thanks man. I love my team. I just want to see them beat the crap out of some QBs. I would love to see Tony Romo banged up and slammed on his head. Would love to see Eli getting driven into the ground and caouging up the ball. Would love to see McNabb trying to run for a first down and get wiped out and limping to the sidelines..That's all I ask..lol. Sorry for being so critical of the D-Line. But I grew up watching Dexter Manely & Charles Mann. I miss that..sorry
I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at how well our Dline does. Remember, our safties are not intact at the moment and we don't have the full pressure upfront right now that we will in regular season.
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It's only preseason man, relax
Man..Im cool..cooler than a polar bears toe nails. Chillin like a villian on a snow cap...lol

I am going to leave it at this..I will give the youngins the benefit of the doubt. But these vets..need to step their game up..
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I'm not trying to speak for SS -- he's pretty good at that himself. However, you started this thread, and nothing has come out of it. No good discussion -- nothing but off-topic BS.

There's a reason for that: you didn't make your case very clearly, and so there were no specific talking points. You just said that the d-line is underachieving, with no arguments to back it up.

SS said, "Daniels, Griffin, Boschetti, Evans, Golston, Wilson, Alexander, and Montgomery need to go?"

You said, "NO I am talking about older playrs that haven't produced and other players that haven't produced."

So, if not any of the players SS mentioned, then who needs to go? I'm not sure there is anyone left.

I'm not trying to gang-up on you. In all actuality, some guys on the d-line will be cut, and this could be a good discussion about who should go.

So, who should go?
Thanks. I mean he was asked multiple times, not just by me, to state who he was talking about. Instead, he wanted to make it some sort of guessing game. Instead of saying "not these guys" he could of just said "these guys" but he didn't. After the first few times of niceties, the only way it seemed possible to get through was to be "a little less nice"
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Old 08-19-2008, 11:34 PM   #81
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Thanks Ghetto..for the niceties (not using effin and throwing a fit and asking what I meant calmly)!! Sorry but I wasn't on here to see your replies and I probably missed them SmootSmack. Its called patience young grasshopper. Calm down dude..WooooSaaaaaa.. Breathe in...Breathe out...

Oh and for those who have to name call. Dont ban me when I fire back!!

If you are strong enough to dish it you are strong enough to take it..despite your relegated authority..

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Because if you agree with my opinion or not..Just say you dont agree. But if not I hope you are a coach that is a troll or someone with expertise if not your thoughts are opinions too. And like an ol man told me opinions are like a-holes..everyone has one..

So unless you are a coach a gm of a NFL team or you have experience beyond this board respect others opinions and disagree without insulting them. Because soon as they insult you back. You have an issue..This is a forum. Not the Senate or Congress or some imperial soap box of knowledge for illuminated dignitaries. This is football talk. Stop spitting in your fellow Redskins fans face. Save it for the cowgirls or some hated opponent. Please forgive me..For I have sinned

As for the posting of this thread..time will tell..I have expressed my thoughts in better detail on the latter replies..enough said

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Old 08-20-2008, 12:34 AM   #82
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The other big, big issue in the defensive front seven was that London Fletcher had to make a lot of plays last year, as he usually does on his teams. But the problem is this: when the plays are getting to Fletcher (who often lines up 7-8 yards behind the LOS), more likely than not the offense has accomplished it's goal on the play.

I'm certain that the addition of Jason Taylor will fix whatever was ailing the pass rush. But it won't fix the inability of the LB's to create big plays, which is generally a main key to a Blache-led defense. The linebackers have to do better than they did last year, and hopefully, for the first time in his career, London Fletcher can get some help in play making from the guys on either side of him, and won't have such an obscene percentage of the Redskins' tackles this year.
I think the LB corp, while thinner than any of us probably wish, looks to be more dominant this year on it's own accord. You're points are well taken about the lack of big plays last season and that's what I'm really getting at. Marcus is totally healthy this year and way up on himself (in a good way), which is so important for a guy who plays w/ tons of emotion. Fletcher is just steady all around. Rocky will be very "smart" this season and surprise us. This defense is going to fly. My only concern is Landry's health in the short-run. His absence in the season opener will severely limit what Blache can do.
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Thanks Ghetto..for the niceties (not using effin and throwing a fit and asking what I meant calmly)!! Sorry but I wasn't on here to see your replies and I probably missed them SmootSmack. Its called patience young grasshopper. Calm down dude..WooooSaaaaaa.. Breathe in...Breathe out...

Oh and for those who have to name call. Dont ban me when I fire back!!

If you are strong enough to dish it you are strong enough to take it..despite your relegated authority..

They will remain nameless..

Because if you agree with my opinion or not..Just say you dont agree. But if not I hope you are a coach that is a troll or someone with expertise if not your thoughts are opinions too. And like an ol man told me opinions are like a-holes..everyone has one..

So unless you are a coach a gm of a NFL team or you have experience beyond this board respect others opinions and disagree without insulting them. Because soon as they insult you back. You have an issue..This is a forum. Not the Senate or Congress or some imperial soap box of knowledge for illuminated dignitaries. This is football talk. Stop spitting in your fellow Redskins fans face. Save it for the cowgirls or some hated opponent. Please forgive me..For I have sinned

As for the posting of this thread..time will tell..I have expressed my thoughts in better detail on the latter replies..enough said

Thanks
Please stop the whining.

However, I always enjoy these little diatribes, especially from the new people who think they've got everything figured out. It's amusing in a way. Then again, I'm usually bored and therefore, easily amused.
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Old 08-20-2008, 03:03 AM   #84
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I think it is too late to start saying that players in the d-line need to go. As many have said here, the only person in danger of not making the team is Wilson (b/c of injuries I think). That being said, I think we have a solid line with Carter, Griffin, Montgomery/Golston, and Jason Taylor. Griff may have a year or two left in him, and that may be enough to develop both Montgomery and Golston into starters (I mean both of them, now they are both competiting for one starting spot). Erasmus James is pretty young compared to AC and JT, so if he stays healthy, he's going to learn a lot from two veteran DEs and could be a starter in the future. If healthy, the D-Line and the backups that we have could be a formidable force this season. I think in the next offseason is when the team should inject some youth into the d-line by drafting a DE and/or DT in the early rounds.
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Thanks Ghetto..for the niceties (not using effin and throwing a fit and asking what I meant calmly)!! Sorry but I wasn't on here to see your replies and I probably missed them SmootSmack. Its called patience young grasshopper. Calm down dude..WooooSaaaaaa.. Breathe in...Breathe out...

Oh and for those who have to name call. Dont ban me when I fire back!!

If you are strong enough to dish it you are strong enough to take it..despite your relegated authority..

They will remain nameless..

Because if you agree with my opinion or not..Just say you dont agree. But if not I hope you are a coach that is a troll or someone with expertise if not your thoughts are opinions too. And like an ol man told me opinions are like a-holes..everyone has one..

So unless you are a coach a gm of a NFL team or you have experience beyond this board respect others opinions and disagree without insulting them. Because soon as they insult you back. You have an issue..This is a forum. Not the Senate or Congress or some imperial soap box of knowledge for illuminated dignitaries. This is football talk. Stop spitting in your fellow Redskins fans face. Save it for the cowgirls or some hated opponent. Please forgive me..For I have sinned

As for the posting of this thread..time will tell..I have expressed my thoughts in better detail on the latter replies..enough said

Thanks
Wow... what a pointless end to a pointless train of thought. Your entire opinion can be summarized in two sentences: We need a better rush from the D-Line. Some of the D-Line, Griffin in particular, are older players who should be released to make room for younger players (I still haven't read anything justifying the assertion that there were "man-crushes" for D-Line players.).

"Time will tell"?? Time will tell what? That you have made some half-assed observation that you mistakenly believed was insightful?

<sigh> I feel dirty for having wasted my time on this.
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wow. i'm amazed this redundant, pointless thread has gone on to nearly 7 pages.

wake me when we get to the meadowlands...
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Thanks Ghetto..for the niceties (not using effin and throwing a fit and asking what I meant calmly)!! Sorry but I wasn't on here to see your replies and I probably missed them SmootSmack. Its called patience young grasshopper. Calm down dude..WooooSaaaaaa.. Breathe in...Breathe out...

Oh and for those who have to name call. Dont ban me when I fire back!!

If you are strong enough to dish it you are strong enough to take it..despite your relegated authority..

They will remain nameless..

Because if you agree with my opinion or not..Just say you dont agree. But if not I hope you are a coach that is a troll or someone with expertise if not your thoughts are opinions too. And like an ol man told me opinions are like a-holes..everyone has one..

So unless you are a coach a gm of a NFL team or you have experience beyond this board respect others opinions and disagree without insulting them. Because soon as they insult you back. You have an issue..This is a forum. Not the Senate or Congress or some imperial soap box of knowledge for illuminated dignitaries. This is football talk. Stop spitting in your fellow Redskins fans face. Save it for the cowgirls or some hated opponent. Please forgive me..For I have sinned

As for the posting of this thread..time will tell..I have expressed my thoughts in better detail on the latter replies..enough said

Thanks
I really have no words. I walk away from this thread having lost brain cells just for reading it.
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I think the LB corp, while thinner than any of us probably wish, looks to be more dominant this year on it's own accord. You're points are well taken about the lack of big plays last season and that's what I'm really getting at. Marcus is totally healthy this year and way up on himself (in a good way), which is so important for a guy who plays w/ tons of emotion. Fletcher is just steady all around. Rocky will be very "smart" this season and surprise us. This defense is going to fly. My only concern is Landry's health in the short-run. His absence in the season opener will severely limit what Blache can do.
That bolded part is the big one, and Rocky is also a year further along in his development. So we have that going for us.

Fletcher has been steady, but his ability to dominate a football game is in decline. Blache should help him out by not having him run the field in the cover two like Grilliams had him doing last year, but I do expect him to struggle in pass coverage this year.
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So, here's are our d-line depth chart as it stands now:

Taylor / Evans / Jackson
Griffin / Alexander / Boschetti
Montgomery / Golston / Askew
Carter / Wilson / James
I really think Chris Wilson's performance has dropped him under James and maybe even the rookie Jackson...Coach Blache said on Redskins.com that Wilson has not done as well as last preseason...that doesn't bode well.
I'm pulling for Wilson...but he needs to go nuts against the Panthers or he may just get cut.
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I am the original Chris Wilson fan - but it seems to me that he just isn't generating the buzz necessary to stay employed.
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