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Official Cut Day Discussion Thread

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View Poll Results: Biggest surprise cut?
Mason 53 43.44%
Frost 4 3.28%
McMullen 54 44.26%
Mix 4 3.28%
Richardson 2 1.64%
other 5 4.10%
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Old 09-02-2008, 08:33 AM   #151
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It doesn't matter because they didn't keep six wideouts, but I still don't get all the hate for McMullen. All the guy did was catch passes when he was on the field and people act as though he should have been a one-man wrecking crew.

I'm not sure what else McMullen could have done to impress. Sounds like some people just don't like him.
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Old 09-02-2008, 08:50 AM   #152
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The fact that all 10 draft picks made the roster, even with many of them not exactly shining in the preseason, was not lost on the veterans. The fact that 20 percent of the roster is occupied by these players, again, something that was talked about a bit in the lockeroom.

'It's a dirty business,' one veteran said of the fact all 10 draft picks made it. 'It's not always about football around here.'"
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So - how does this mesh with other reports that this team was having great chemistry with the vets helping young guys (looked for link, I think it was a Mosely story (ESPN)). Sounds to me like its just more of JLC's sour grapes over having new guys make the team and his old stand-bys getting the ax.
JLC is making it sound like this only applies to the Redskins. It's a dirty business all around the NFL. Furthermore, unless I missed it, why doesn't he mention that a lot of these veterans were once rookies themselves who knocked out other veterans. Poor job by JLC
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Old 09-02-2008, 09:10 AM   #153
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Why did Mason sign with B-More's practice squad instead of with ours?
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Old 09-02-2008, 09:16 AM   #154
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Why did Mason sign with B-More's practice squad instead of with ours?
he has a better chance of seeing the feild there.
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Old 09-02-2008, 10:55 AM   #155
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JLC is making it sound like this only applies to the Redskins. It's a dirty business all around the NFL. Furthermore, unless I missed it, why doesn't he mention that a lot of these veterans were once rookies themselves who knocked out other veterans. Poor job by JLC
It gets harder and harder to read JLC. Every insider post reeks of Anti-Snyder Spin. Where's the positive take, or even <gasp> objective take on the quality of the new guys? Instead, we get bile from ex-punters and demoted atheletes. Are there two sides to every story? Not from the Post as of late.
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Old 09-02-2008, 11:27 AM   #156
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It gets harder and harder to read JLC. Every insider post reeks of Anti-Snyder Spin. Where's the positive take, or even <gasp> objective take on the quality of the new guys? Instead, we get bile from ex-punters and demoted atheletes. Are there two sides to every story? Not from the Post as of late.
It really is getting ridiculous. We've heard people rail on the idea of using the draft more vs. free agents for years now. We finally have a deep draft and all 10 make the team and now THAT's a problem. Good grief.
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Old 09-02-2008, 12:22 PM   #157
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It really is getting ridiculous. We've heard people rail on the idea of using the draft more vs. free agents for years now. We finally have a deep draft and all 10 make the team and now THAT's a problem. Good grief.
I think the problem is how they performed in preseason if they even played at all. I think we could point to a few better players who got cut over a drafted rookie. Take Frost for example some would say he had experience and outperformed Brooks for that job. Brooks got the job and we really do not know how this will work out.
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Old 09-02-2008, 12:25 PM   #158
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The Frost deal was such a joke. Yes he outperformed Brooks but it wasn't by much. Certainly not enough to justify cutting a 6th round pick for a guy who's been consistently inconsistent for us.
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I think the problem is how they performed in preseason if they even played at all. I think we could point to a few better players who got cut over a drafted rookie. Take Frost for example some would say he had experience and outperformed Brooks for that job. Brooks got the job and we really do not know how this will work out.
And the problem with this complaint is: We do know how the people the draftees were brought in to replace played. You don't want a draftee challeging your position - play well consistently. Show the team there is not a need at your position. Even then, if you're an older player and not tagged to be a starter: Beware, when it comes to depth, youth is a benefit and age a liability.
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Old 09-02-2008, 12:35 PM   #160
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JLC's thoughts on football seem like those of someone who doesn't really understand the game or league lately :/

insisting frost would make it, saying ecker made the PS (why would he with cooley and davis and yoder already onboard... there's just no need). thirteen posts saying backup DL guys will play if the starters are still hurt (REALLY??). minor, but consistently grating.
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Old 09-02-2008, 05:30 PM   #161
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I thought maybe the Redskins would find a way to keep McMullen and Mix but...

I ws surprised to read that Frost was picked up by Green Bay.
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Old 09-02-2008, 05:37 PM   #162
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I think the problem is how they performed in preseason if they even played at all.
You can't judge a draft pick solely on how they performed in preseason. They just got in the league. Give em time to develop. Judge the 08 draft in 2010, not a week after the preseason.
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Old 09-03-2008, 03:22 PM   #163
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It really is getting ridiculous. We've heard people rail on the idea of using the draft more vs. free agents for years now. We finally have a deep draft and all 10 make the team and now THAT's a problem. Good grief.
But it wasn't a good draft. That's the point. They're trying to pretend it is. If the Redskins were 4 - 12 last year, it would make sense, but they've been telling us they want continuity all along. And why does Jason Campbell have to be the one to tell those two turds to show up on time and study? You would think that Vinny Cerrato would feel some responsibility in that regard since he now has maximum authority.
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But it wasn't a good draft. That's the point. They're trying to pretend it is. If the Redskins were 4 - 12 last year, it would make sense, but they've been telling us they want continuity all along. And why does Jason Campbell have to be the one to tell those two turds to show up on time and study? You would think that Vinny Cerrato would feel some responsibility in that regard since he now has maximum authority.
Hard to tell if it was a good draft or not considering these guys haven't even taken the field in a regular season game. Let's talk in 2-3 years when we can properly evaluate this draft.

As for your comment on JC talking to the rookie WRs we really don't know what has been said to them behind closed doors and by who. Why do you assume that JC is the only one that has talked to them?
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Old 09-03-2008, 03:47 PM   #165
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But it wasn't a good draft. That's the point. They're trying to pretend it is. If the Redskins were 4 - 12 last year, it would make sense, but they've been telling us they want continuity all along. And why does Jason Campbell have to be the one to tell those two turds to show up on time and study? You would think that Vinny Cerrato would feel some responsibility in that regard since he now has maximum authority.
WOW...
First, we got(I am talking only in college terms now) a top punter, 2 top WR and a strong TE, a decent OL, and a standout QB - that's a good draft.

Second, the Skins were a good team last year with all but one of their starters back, now is a GOOD time to get some youth in, let them learn the speed of the game. We did not NEED an impact player(always nice to find one if you can)

Finally, next year all ten may be cut and then a bad draft it will have been, but for filling the backup positions with players who are in their prime learning days to learn from our best, and build on the Redskins traditions that Joe Gibbs et al brought back, I think this year could be a watershed that leads to Dan's first trophy.

Thanks for listening

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