Official Cut Day Discussion Thread

Mattyk · 08-30-2008, 12:45 PM

Cut Day - Redskins Insider

Hard to imagine anything too shocking coming out of the Skins cuts, and unless they actually do put Malcolm Kelly on IR then I suspect it will be a pretty mundane afternoon.

The punter battle remains the most interesting plotline (my hunch is Frost).
Marcus Mason got a lot of attention but I'm not sure he makes the final 53. His special teams play is not elite, after watching some tape he struggled in pass protection Thursday (and with all the 5-6 man protection schemes Zorn runs the backs have got to be able to hold it down in that regard). I think four backs is a luxury they might not be able to afford.

Todd Wade could make it despite missing all of camp, and Chris Wilson looks to be in good shape to me as well, especially with Jason Taylor iffy and Erasmus James coming off such a lengthy layoff.

Other than that the only guys who have been around here for a while and remain on the bubble are Boschetti, and well, maybe just Boschetti. It's impossible not to love the effort and will he puts forth, but I'm not sure he'll be able to stave off the turk this time around.

The official roster will be released later this afternoon/ early evening, and, upon digesting it, we will surely pontificate on it as well.

GMScud · 08-30-2008, 12:56 PM

I can't believe Malcolm Kelly may land on IR. We knew he had knee issues, we took him anyway, and now look. Shit.

When LaCanfora says his "hunch is Frost," does he mean his hunch is Frost will be the one who gets the ax?

WaldSkins · 08-30-2008, 12:58 PM

After thinking about it, I would rather carry someone like Mix over Mason just based on special teams play. As much as i think Mason could be a contributer to this team he is not going to take playing time being behind Portis and Betts. I would rather save that roster spot for someone who will actually contribute like Boshetti, Mix, Wlson.

Id have no problem if we kept Mason, but that means we would have to trade Betts.

WaldSkins · 08-30-2008, 12:59 PM

He means Brooks will be cut.

GTripp0012 · 08-30-2008, 01:58 PM

I modified JLC's list a bit as my final guess:

Askew, Matthias DT
Brooks, Durant P (made team)
Broughton, Nehemiah FB
Clark, Devin OL
Crummey, Andrew OL
Devine, Derek QB
Gant, Horace WR
Gatewood, Curtis LB
Ghee, Patrick S
Hamilton, Justin S
Holloway, David LB
Holt, Cedrick CB
Mann, Maurice WR
Mason, Marcus, RB
Matua, Fred OL
Tryon, Justin CB
Verdun-Wheeler, Danny LB
Wade, Todd OL
Washington, Tavares OL
Westbrook, Byron CB
Wilson, Chris DL

IR: Malcolm Kelly, WR

GTripp0012 · 08-30-2008, 02:00 PM

Wade, Frost, and Mason are gone.

ProFootballTalk.com - REDSKINS CUT WADE, FROST, MASON

So Brooks is in.

skinsfan_nn · 08-30-2008, 02:19 PM

No surprise with the Wade and Frost move. A tiny bit surprised Mason didn't make it, even though it's awful hard keeping four RB's.....the kid seemed to be really strong. I would have liked to seen him have a shot. But we do have other more concerning needs, so I completely understand the move. He will find work.

Hog1 · 08-30-2008, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Wade, Frost, and Mason are gone.

ProFootballTalk.com - REDSKINS CUT WADE, FROST, MASON

So Brooks is in.

Frost needs to go. He's great until you really need him. At least there is some mystery as to whether Brooks will choke regularly or not.
I would hate to see Mason go. As MK has stated, hard to keep 4 backs. HOWEVER, Portis is getting nicked more often than he used to (at the ripe age of 28+--) sooooo..........

GTripp0012 · 08-30-2008, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

I really really hope Frost is gone. I also think that there is no way Kelly goes on the IR. PUP is certainly a possibility, but IR is ridiculous.

PUP isn't a possibility because he has to be placed on the list before his first practice. He practiced and dressed for the Jacksonville game, so either he goes on the 53 man and starts the year as one of the inactive 7, or he goes on IR, and someone else can be placed on the 53 man.

I would put him on the roster and cut Mix, because we can IR Kelly at any time, when someone that we need more comes available.

BugelDisciple · 08-30-2008, 02:45 PM

Frost is terrible in the clutch, so I hope Schefter's report is accurate about the punting competition. I hope the Redskins can find room for Mason somewhere because he had a great preseason, I think he is a future starting RB in the NFL.

GMScud · 08-30-2008, 02:56 PM

Frost just got cut. Good. Hate to think we drafted Brooks for nothing.

rypper11 · 08-30-2008, 03:28 PM

Put Kelly on IR and keep McMullen and Mix. The way Thomas has looked this preseason he'll probably be one and done here and maybe a season on IR will help Kelly push to be a #4 WR next year.

JWsleep · 08-30-2008, 03:44 PM

Not sure why you're ready to call Thomas one and done. Sometimes it takes more than 2-3 preseason games and a short bit of training camp to get it going as WR in the NFL, particularly in the WCO.

Glad about Frost--hope the rook steps up. It's a big job, being holder as well.

Figured Wade was in trouble and Mason was a number thing (plus pass blocking in the WCO is crucial, and I think he's been shaky there).

BugelDisciple · 08-30-2008, 04:06 PM

According to theredskins blog:
The Official Blog of The Washington Redskins

The team has announced the players that are being released to meet the 53-man limit. Here’s the list, organized by position.

* QB Derek Devine
* RB Marcus Mason
* FB Nehemiah Broughton
* WR Maurice Mann
* WR Horace Gant
* WR Billy McMullen
* WR Anthony Mix
* DT Matthias Askew
* DT Ryan Boschetti
* T Devin Clark
* T Todd Wade
* T Tavares Washington
* G Andrew Crummey
* G Fred Matua
* LB Curtis Gatewood
* LB David Holloway
* LB Danny Verdun-Wheeler
* S Patrick Ghee
* CB Cedrick Holt
* CB Matterral Richardson
* CB Byron Westbrook
* P Derrick Frost

I don't understand how this is possible? I thought that McMullen was a lock to make the team-- and if he is cut, why did we cut Mix as well.

NM Redskin · 08-30-2008, 04:09 PM

Its official
Decision Day: Wade Among 22 Cuts By Redskins
Matthias Askew, DT
Ryan Boschetti, DT
Nehemiah Broughton, FB
Devin Clark, T
Andrew Crummey, G
Derek Devine, QB
Derrick Frost, P
Horace Gant, WR
Curtis Gatewood, LB
Patrick Ghee, S
David Holloway, LB
Cedrick Holt, CB
Maurice Mann, WR
Marcus Mason, RB
Fred Matua, G
Billy McMullen, WR
Anthony Mix, WR
Matteral Richardson, CB
Danny Verdun-Wheeler, LB
Todd Wade, T
Tavares Washington, T
Byron Westbrook, CB

View Poll Results: Biggest surprise cut?
Mason	53	43.44%
Frost	4	3.28%
McMullen	54	44.26%
Mix	4	3.28%
Richardson	2	1.64%
other	5	4.10%
Voters: 122. You may not vote on this poll

08-30-2008, 12:45 PM	#1
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 73,204	Official Cut Day Discussion Thread Cut Day - Redskins Insider Hard to imagine anything too shocking coming out of the Skins cuts, and unless they actually do put Malcolm Kelly on IR then I suspect it will be a pretty mundane afternoon. The punter battle remains the most interesting plotline (my hunch is Frost). Marcus Mason got a lot of attention but I'm not sure he makes the final 53. His special teams play is not elite, after watching some tape he struggled in pass protection Thursday (and with all the 5-6 man protection schemes Zorn runs the backs have got to be able to hold it down in that regard). I think four backs is a luxury they might not be able to afford. Todd Wade could make it despite missing all of camp, and Chris Wilson looks to be in good shape to me as well, especially with Jason Taylor iffy and Erasmus James coming off such a lengthy layoff. Other than that the only guys who have been around here for a while and remain on the bubble are Boschetti, and well, maybe just Boschetti. It's impossible not to love the effort and will he puts forth, but I'm not sure he'll be able to stave off the turk this time around. The official roster will be released later this afternoon/ early evening, and, upon digesting it, we will surely pontificate on it as well. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

08-30-2008, 12:56 PM	#2
GMScud Swearinger Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Washington, DC Age: 34 Posts: 12,623	Re: Official Cut Day Discussion Thread I can't believe Malcolm Kelly may land on IR. We knew he had knee issues, we took him anyway, and now look. Shit. When LaCanfora says his "hunch is Frost," does he mean his hunch is Frost will be the one who gets the ax? __________________ Insert witty signature here

08-30-2008, 12:58 PM	#3
WaldSkins Playmaker Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harrisburg, PA Age: 29 Posts: 2,714	Re: Official Cut Day Discussion Thread After thinking about it, I would rather carry someone like Mix over Mason just based on special teams play. As much as i think Mason could be a contributer to this team he is not going to take playing time being behind Portis and Betts. I would rather save that roster spot for someone who will actually contribute like Boshetti, Mix, Wlson. Id have no problem if we kept Mason, but that means we would have to trade Betts. __________________ "I would change that around, Jesus isn't Cutler. I guarantee you Jesus couldnt thread the ball like Jay does."-Monksdown

08-30-2008, 01:58 PM	#5
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Age: 25 Posts: 15,152	Re: Official Cut Day Discussion Thread I modified JLC's list a bit as my final guess: Askew, Matthias DT Brooks, Durant P (made team) Broughton, Nehemiah FB Clark, Devin OL Crummey, Andrew OL Devine, Derek QB Gant, Horace WR Gatewood, Curtis LB Ghee, Patrick S Hamilton, Justin S Holloway, David LB Holt, Cedrick CB Mann, Maurice WR Mason, Marcus, RB Matua, Fred OL Tryon, Justin CB Verdun-Wheeler, Danny LB Wade, Todd OL Washington, Tavares OL Westbrook, Byron CB Wilson, Chris DL IR: Malcolm Kelly, WR __________________ Shanahan: “The bad thing is he's [Sav Rocca] probably our best offensive weapon and that’s not good.” Last edited by GTripp0012; 08-30-2008 at 02:27 PM.

08-30-2008, 12:59 PM	#4
WaldSkins Playmaker Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harrisburg, PA Age: 29 Posts: 2,714	Re: Official Cut Day Discussion Thread He means Brooks will be cut. __________________ "I would change that around, Jesus isn't Cutler. I guarantee you Jesus couldnt thread the ball like Jay does."-Monksdown

08-30-2008, 02:00 PM	#6
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Age: 25 Posts: 15,152	Re: Official Cut Day Discussion Thread Wade, Frost, and Mason are gone. ProFootballTalk.com - REDSKINS CUT WADE, FROST, MASON So Brooks is in. __________________ Shanahan: “The bad thing is he's [Sav Rocca] probably our best offensive weapon and that’s not good.”

08-30-2008, 02:19 PM	#7
skinsfan_nn Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Newport News,Virginia Age: 48 Posts: 4,495	Re: Official Cut Day Discussion Thread No surprise with the Wade and Frost move. A tiny bit surprised Mason didn't make it, even though it's awful hard keeping four RB's.....the kid seemed to be really strong. I would have liked to seen him have a shot. But we do have other more concerning needs, so I completely understand the move. He will find work. __________________ "There's no greater feeling than moving a man from Point A to Point B, against his will." #68 THANKS COACH GIBBS FOR EVERYTHING! YOUR THE MAN AND ALWAYS WILL BE!

08-30-2008, 02:45 PM	#10
BugelDisciple Camp Scrub Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 46	Re: Official Cut Day Discussion Thread Frost is terrible in the clutch, so I hope Schefter's report is accurate about the punting competition. I hope the Redskins can find room for Mason somewhere because he had a great preseason, I think he is a future starting RB in the NFL.

08-30-2008, 02:56 PM	#11
GMScud Swearinger Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Washington, DC Age: 34 Posts: 12,623	Re: Official Cut Day Discussion Thread Frost just got cut. Good. Hate to think we drafted Brooks for nothing. __________________ Insert witty signature here

08-30-2008, 03:28 PM	#12
rypper11 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Winston Salem, NC Posts: 1,218	Re: Official Cut Day Discussion Thread Put Kelly on IR and keep McMullen and Mix. The way Thomas has looked this preseason he'll probably be one and done here and maybe a season on IR will help Kelly push to be a #4 WR next year. __________________ Playing a kids game for a kings ransom.

08-30-2008, 03:44 PM	#13
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 44 Posts: 4,576	Re: Official Cut Day Discussion Thread Not sure why you're ready to call Thomas one and done. Sometimes it takes more than 2-3 preseason games and a short bit of training camp to get it going as WR in the NFL, particularly in the WCO. Glad about Frost--hope the rook steps up. It's a big job, being holder as well. Figured Wade was in trouble and Mason was a number thing (plus pass blocking in the WCO is crucial, and I think he's been shaky there). __________________ Hail from Houston!

08-30-2008, 04:06 PM	#14
BugelDisciple Camp Scrub Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 46	Re: Official Cut Day Discussion Thread According to theredskins blog: The Official Blog of The Washington Redskins The team has announced the players that are being released to meet the 53-man limit. Here’s the list, organized by position. * QB Derek Devine * RB Marcus Mason * FB Nehemiah Broughton * WR Maurice Mann * WR Horace Gant * WR Billy McMullen * WR Anthony Mix * DT Matthias Askew * DT Ryan Boschetti * T Devin Clark * T Todd Wade * T Tavares Washington * G Andrew Crummey * G Fred Matua * LB Curtis Gatewood * LB David Holloway * LB Danny Verdun-Wheeler * S Patrick Ghee * CB Cedrick Holt * CB Matterral Richardson * CB Byron Westbrook * P Derrick Frost I don't understand how this is possible? I thought that McMullen was a lock to make the team-- and if he is cut, why did we cut Mix as well.

08-30-2008, 04:09 PM	#15
NM Redskin The Starter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New Mexico Posts: 1,004	Re: Official Cut Day Discussion Thread Its official Decision Day: Wade Among 22 Cuts By Redskins Matthias Askew, DT Ryan Boschetti, DT Nehemiah Broughton, FB Devin Clark, T Andrew Crummey, G Derek Devine, QB Derrick Frost, P Horace Gant, WR Curtis Gatewood, LB Patrick Ghee, S David Holloway, LB Cedrick Holt, CB Maurice Mann, WR Marcus Mason, RB Fred Matua, G Billy McMullen, WR Anthony Mix, WR Matteral Richardson, CB Danny Verdun-Wheeler, LB Todd Wade, T Tavares Washington, T Byron Westbrook, CB __________________ Despite my solid 40 time and great intangibles I went undrafted AGAIN!

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