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Old 08-31-2008, 01:45 PM   #31
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Re: Good Pick Ups from Cuts!!

I would say Deltha O'Neal would be about the only guy I'd look at. He's a HUGE upgrade from Tryon who has just looked miserable. Willie Anderson is 33, just lost his job, and wants is nearing retirement. I'd question how much his heart is really in it.

I wonder if there's any validity to NOT cutting drafted players who have been mediocre at best just to save a litte face. Granted Rob Jackson and Horton played nicely, but Tryon had waiver wire written all over him. I'm pretty surprised he's still around.
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We had a real good camp and have, it seems, good talent and depth. In light of Carolina and Jax, it may just seems that way b/c we haven't had a daily comparison to other teams. Without having scrutinized these players, it's hard to say if they are significantly better than those on the team. Other than Tryon, who do we cut - Wilson and Hamilton are probably the next bubble players but they are likely both valuable ST guys. Is Deltha the going to be good enough on ST? How did Tryon do on ST? Right now, we are talking about replacing the 5th CB, 5th Safety and/or 5th DE - all of whom will be making their main contributions on ST. That's the spot for youth not retreads. Remember - Deltha has been cut by at least 3 teams now. Is he really an upgrade??
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We had a real good camp and have, it seems, good talent and depth. In light of Carolina and Jax, it may just seems that way b/c we haven't had a daily comparison to other teams. Without having scrutinized these players, it's hard to say if they are significantly better than those on the team. Other than Tryon, who do we cut - Wilson and Hamilton are probably the next bubble players but they are likely both valuable ST guys. Is Deltha the going to be good enough on ST? How did Tryon do on ST? Right now, we are talking about replacing the 5th CB, 5th Safety and/or 5th DE - all of whom will be making their main contributions on ST. That's the spot for youth not retreads. Remember - Deltha has been cut by at least 3 teams now. Is he really an upgrade??
Over Tryon? For sure. At this point Tryon has more upside and obviously youth, but as far as 2008 goes, I think O'Neal would be a better player. It's not like we'd be asking him to play #1 CB against the TO's of the world, just a little nickel and some depth chart help experience-wise.
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Tryon won't play the position he played in the preseason we saw him mostly playing the LCB and RCB he will no doubt be a nickel corner and there I think he can excel better.
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Tryon won't play the position he played in the preseason we saw him mostly playing the LCB and RCB he will no doubt be a nickel corner and there I think he can excel better.
The only position I want Tryon to play is benchwarmer. If he gets to play nickel or dime than essentially we are playing w/ 10 on the field. H has the mouth of Deion Sanders but the coverage skills of Col. Sanders.
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Old 08-31-2008, 06:23 PM   #36
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I think O'Neal would be a great pick up. He wouldn't help for the future, but he'd add depth to our secondary. Tryon needs to develop big time.
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Re: Good Pick Ups from Cuts!!

The way we went thru the OL last year I would feel better if we had some depth going into the season.
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The way we went thru the OL last year I would feel better if we had some depth going into the season.
It would be nice to pick up a decent backup OL. I would say a cheap one though. Our team has a good player developing in the practice squad (Crummey) and drafting an O-lineman in the draft next year will help in adding youth and develop for the future.

I still think that picking up O'Neal for the right price would be huge for our secondary. It could even help us in the event the Doughty doesn't pan out, and the coaches move Springs to safety. But even if that doesn't happen, it would just make our secondary very strong this season.
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Do any of the cap gurus know how much space we have left in the cap and whether the team could afford any more players? Just curious.
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Re: Good Pick Ups from Cuts!!

I think we should give Chad Jackson a tryout. He was a 1st round WR pick a couple years ago for NE and i think he never got a fair shot.
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According to NFL.com, Jackson is still on the Patriots.
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Old 09-01-2008, 12:35 PM   #43
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Re: Good Pick Ups from Cuts!!

Even though I agree with you about Tryon not worth a roster shot, I still see our major depth need at LB.

Theres gotta be anyone better than our backups.
Does anyone know of a solid vet LB available?
I'd also argue DT.
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Jackson was cut.
Lynch, Jackson cut as Patriots bide their time - The Boston Globe
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Patriots just signed Deltha O'Neal. Dammit.
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