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Old 09-01-2008, 12:10 PM   #31
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I think we should sign him back of the Ravens PS. For this reason. If Portis or Betts get hurt this year. What would we do? Say if Portis gets hurt. God forbid and Betts isn't running that well.. we would be S.O.L. What if Betts got hurt? Who would spell Portis? Are we that comfortable with Rock as the RB that comes in to spell Portis? or Betts? Just throwing itout there. Rock is excellent on special teams..Its funny its like Masons weaknesses is Rocks strengths and Mason strengths are Rocks weaknesses. Think we should have kept him and cut Tryon. IMO.

I just got an email from Rotoworld fantasty football and they are claiming that Mason has already been cut by the Ravens, so if we want him he's available again.

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Old 09-01-2008, 03:18 PM   #32
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mason's on the PS, we can have him at any time until someone puts him on an actual 53 man roster...

and i don't know how anyone can say he'll be great in the NFL with 0 experience against actual starters in the regular season.

he's soo good he can't beat out our #3, so who cares?

you remember last year when lumsden was going to be a probowler?
this year's hype on anthony mix?
how about sultan mccullough in 2004?
tim hasslebeck and his 0.0 QB rating vs dallas? people wanted him to be our full time starter...

i mean, there are about 10 more examples, but just because a coach talks a guy up in preseason before cutting him doesn't make him good or worth worrying about. this is just another pointless (and silly) preseason mancrush on a player that's just not that great.
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Old 09-01-2008, 03:48 PM   #33
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I just got an email from Rotoworld fantasty football and they are claiming that Mason has already been cut by the Ravens, so if we want him he's available again.
Mason has not been released from the ravens PS. They have released CB David Pittman with an injury settlement.

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Old 09-02-2008, 01:39 PM   #34
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I'll give you another example.....why did we retain Broughten....he has not shown anything either. and.....every year he gets cut. He's an injury waiting to happen. Tryon sucked during preseason. Exactly what did he do to show he should be on the team?

I was a Mix supporter, but my support dwindled when he couldn't catch a cold. However, McMullen did a good enough job to land him the 6 position that we don't have ...but went out and picked up a no name from the Colts after they trash him. Atleast McMullen already knew the scheme, routes, and the QB.

All I was suggesting is if we are going to get rid of a one demensional RB then we should get rid of all the one demensional RB's. Wouldn't that be fair. Lets see...Portis runs well and blocks well....depending on who you talk to. He's a keeper. Betts is a good runner and a mediocre blocker. He's a nice #2. Neither are on special teams though....thats a negative.

Mason was a good RB and mediocre at blocking (sound familiar), and terrible on punt/kick returns. Rock excellent on kick/punt returns and mediocre at RB and terrible at blocking. I guess you are right..if Rock wanted to make the team he better be good at something no one else is. and I base my theory on all the yrs I've watched the Skins, not just preseason. It's also not just about the numbers he puts up. It's about how well he runs the ball. If he would stop dancing behind the line and simply run the ball through the whole (as Portis does, Betts does, and Mason did) then he might gain more yardage. The problem with Rock is he's always looking to break the big one and we end up with several "caught at or behind the line of scrimage" plays before we get the "big one" where he gets a 50-70 yrd run. I would rather have a consistent RB then have one who dances in the back field.

It all goes back to what the coach's want though. They are always looking at the guy who might break one loose at any given time. but I digress back to my real issue which was if the team wanted to get younger as they say then Mason should have been on the team. The other 3 all came out of the same draft and are almost 8-10 yrs in the league. They could have developed Mason as a kick/punt returner on the practice squad. Unless he's truely that ignorant.
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Old 09-02-2008, 01:41 PM   #35
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We're paying Rock too much to cut him and there just wasn't any room for Mason. I wish him all the best with the Ravens
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Old 09-02-2008, 01:49 PM   #36
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I was a Mix supporter, but my support dwindled when he couldn't catch a cold. However, McMullen did a good enough job to land him the 6 position that we don't have ...but went out and picked up a no name from the Colts after they trash him. Atleast McMullen already knew the scheme, routes, and the QB.
We signed a WR for the practice squad. It's not the same thing

Wouldn't be surprised if the Skins re-sign McMullen down the line, if necessary. For now though, I really don't think he's needed.
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Old 09-02-2008, 01:59 PM   #37
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We signed a WR for the practice squad. It's not the same thing

Wouldn't be surprised if the Skins re-sign McMullen down the line, if necessary. For now though, I really don't think he's needed.
I was simply suggesting that it would have been better to sign someone who already knows the plays and scheme to practice squad vs signing someone who doesn't have a clue. In case (god forbid) someone gets hurt he could step up instead of us having to hunt him down and sign him.
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I'll give you another example.....why did we retain Broughten....he has not shown anything either. and.....every year he gets cut. He's an injury waiting to happen. Tryon sucked during preseason. Exactly what did he do to show he should be on the team?

I was a Mix supporter, but my support dwindled when he couldn't catch a cold. However, McMullen did a good enough job to land him the 6 position that we don't have ...but went out and picked up a no name from the Colts after they trash him. Atleast McMullen already knew the scheme, routes, and the QB.

All I was suggesting is if we are going to get rid of a one demensional RB then we should get rid of all the one demensional RB's. Wouldn't that be fair. Lets see...Portis runs well and blocks well....depending on who you talk to. He's a keeper. Betts is a good runner and a mediocre blocker. He's a nice #2. Neither are on special teams though....thats a negative.

Mason was a good RB and mediocre at blocking (sound familiar), and terrible on punt/kick returns. Rock excellent on kick/punt returns and mediocre at RB and terrible at blocking. I guess you are right..if Rock wanted to make the team he better be good at something no one else is. and I base my theory on all the yrs I've watched the Skins, not just preseason. It's also not just about the numbers he puts up. It's about how well he runs the ball. If he would stop dancing behind the line and simply run the ball through the whole (as Portis does, Betts does, and Mason did) then he might gain more yardage. The problem with Rock is he's always looking to break the big one and we end up with several "caught at or behind the line of scrimage" plays before we get the "big one" where he gets a 50-70 yrd run. I would rather have a consistent RB then have one who dances in the back field.

It all goes back to what the coach's want though. They are always looking at the guy who might break one loose at any given time. but I digress back to my real issue which was if the team wanted to get younger as they say then Mason should have been on the team. The other 3 all came out of the same draft and are almost 8-10 yrs in the league. They could have developed Mason as a kick/punt returner on the practice squad. Unless he's truely that ignorant.
Your case for Mason is getting a little tired.

A 3rd string RB really isn't worth all this trouble. In the end Rock won out because he brings more to the table in terms of special teams play.

The team kept all 10 draft picks... I'd say that's quite the youth movement. Keeping or letting Mason go wasn't going to make or break the team in regard to that.
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Old 09-02-2008, 02:02 PM   #39
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I guess I should just stop whinning. LOL. He's gone, not coming back, and I'm bitter. Oh well. I usually don't get behind any one player but I did kinda root for this kid to make the team. Back to my screw the players they'll get paid and "Go Team" mentality.
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Old 09-02-2008, 02:06 PM   #40
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Mason was a good story this summer no doubt. However we've seen plenty of feel good stories over the years and how many of them turned into the superstars we hoped they would? None that I can recall. Guys like Sultan McCullough, Mike Espy, Jesse Lumsden, etc. were all training camp heroes that haven't panned out. I'm sure I'm missing many more.
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Old 09-02-2008, 02:06 PM   #41
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I was simply suggesting that it would have been better to sign someone who already knows the plays and scheme to practice squad vs signing someone who doesn't have a clue. In case (god forbid) someone gets hurt he could step up instead of us having to hunt him down and sign him.
You're ignoring the rules though. And the rule is McMullen is ineligible for the practice squad. So it's either keep him on the 53 man roster and have him sit on the sidelines or be a gameday inactive most weeks, at the expense of some needed depth at other positions (including special teams); or just cut him outright.
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I wish we could have signed him to the practice squad.
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I was simply suggesting that it would have been better to sign someone who already knows the plays and scheme to practice squad vs signing someone who doesn't have a clue. In case (god forbid) someone gets hurt he could step up instead of us having to hunt him down and sign him.
If McMullen or any other player has a halfway decent agent, the minute someone gets hurt(ditto) he will be calling Vinny and co. making the same case that you just made. I doubt the Skins would have to "hunt him down".
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Old 09-02-2008, 06:17 PM   #44
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Truth is we didn't need Mason.
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