Warpath  

Home | Forums | Salary Cap Info | Shop | Donate | Stay Connected




Go Back   Warpath > Redskins Forums > Redskins Locker Room


Heyer will Start against Giants

Redskins Locker Room


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-01-2008, 12:12 PM   #46
Playmaker
 
skinsfan_nn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Newport News,Virginia
Age: 49
Posts: 4,495
Re: Heyer will Start against Giants

Quote:
Originally Posted by dmek25 View Post
i disagree with this. i think you can have anyone be a captain, as long as they have the right leadership skills, and have the respect of their teammates. it shouldn't have anything to due with talent
Your Captain is a leader of the team, and happens to be a field general. How can you possibly achieve that if your not even a starter or for that matter be on the field? Which at this time JJ is not.
__________________
"There's no greater feeling than moving a man from Point A to Point B, against his will." #68

THANKS COACH GIBBS FOR EVERYTHING! YOUR THE MAN AND ALWAYS WILL BE!
skinsfan_nn is offline   Reply With Quote

Advertisements
Old 09-01-2008, 12:20 PM   #47
Eternally Legendary
 
saden1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Seattle
Age: 34
Posts: 9,858
Re: Heyer will Start against Giants

Darrell Green was a captain and he wasn't a starter his last three season.
__________________
"The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder."

-Jenkins
saden1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2008, 01:06 PM   #48
Special Teams
 
ChillWill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Age: 59
Posts: 151
Re: Heyer will Start against Giants

Quote:
Originally Posted by dmek25 View Post
i disagree with this. i think you can have anyone be a captain, as long as they have the right leadership skills, and have the respect of their teammates. it shouldn't have anything to due with talent
Well I'm trying to think of anyone in any sport who is a Team Captain but not a leader in some capacity on the field.
ChillWill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2008, 01:12 PM   #49
Special Teams
 
ChillWill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Age: 59
Posts: 151
Re: Heyer will Start against Giants

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChillWill View Post
Well I'm trying to think of anyone in any sport who is a Team Captain but not a leader in some capacity on the field.
Sorry I posted before reading the previous post about Darrell Green. I think that shows the respect the players had for him.
ChillWill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2008, 05:55 PM   #50
Naega jeil jal naga
 
Dirtbag59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland
Age: 28
Posts: 14,461
Re: Heyer will Start against Giants

Quote:
Originally Posted by wilsowilso View Post
Keeping Tryon was the move of someone who smokes crack.
HEY HEY HEY leave the mayor out of this.
__________________
"Hey baby, wake up from your a sleep." -Zlad

"I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now."
- FRPLG
Dirtbag59 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2008, 06:01 PM   #51
Playmaker
 
skinsfan_nn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Newport News,Virginia
Age: 49
Posts: 4,495
Re: Heyer will Start against Giants

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirtbag359 View Post
HEY HEY HEY leave the mayor out of this.
Although I agree with the wilso post...don't politics belong in the parking lot. This side of the fence is football ONLY!

Leave it to some dirtbag......
__________________
"There's no greater feeling than moving a man from Point A to Point B, against his will." #68

THANKS COACH GIBBS FOR EVERYTHING! YOUR THE MAN AND ALWAYS WILL BE!
skinsfan_nn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2008, 07:29 PM   #52
Living Legend
 
Ruhskins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 15,758
Re: Heyer will Start against Giants

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirtbag359 View Post
HEY HEY HEY leave the mayor out of this.
Huh? When did we go back to 1990?
__________________
R.I.P. #21

New words created on The Warpath:
Rewalsr - Somretimes - Fualt - Jersesy - Itiot - Composetory
Afeard - Storgn - Empliment - Gaissn - Saftys - Minnisota
Faviort - Hatter - Phsyched - Foof - Heloing - Brutual
Stroried

"Give an opinion and move on. Your life doesn't depend on winning the internet." -FRPLG
Ruhskins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2008, 07:47 PM   #53
The Starter
 
budw38's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Northern,Va.
Posts: 2,383
Re: Heyer will Start against Giants

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoSkins! View Post
What I have not been able to get over is that Jansen seems so oblivious to his drop off in play. It is like he has blinders on when some "no name" DE is pancaking him on the way to a sack. If he would just once say something like "I haven't played at as high of a level yet as I need to, but I'm confident I will get there soon and win back my job. The rust from the injury and missing last year is almost off...", then I'd respect that.

What he does say is:
  • "It really doesn't matter how I grade myself,"
  • explanations were "nothing that I felt was reason enough."
  • I've felt I've done a good job this preseason. I didn't play very well against the Panthers, but neither did anybody else. Until then, I've had lot people in the organization tell me I was having the best camp I've ever had."
Sorry, but the guy just doesn't even see whats going on. He has a delusional self image. Maybe this makes him work harder and get back to being a good RT.
No highly competitive athlete see's a drop off in their performance . Not Monk , Rice , Marino or D. Green . We have not played a meaningful game yet , nobody knows how well he would play if called upon . He may be going down hill , he might just give us on hell of a run , if called upon .
budw38 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2008, 08:06 PM   #54
Franchise Player
 
Sheriff Gonna Getcha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 35
Posts: 8,317
Re: Heyer will Start against Giants

I don't feel very good about this move. Granted, Jansen's skills have eroded considerably since 2003 and he looked dreadful in pass protection this preseason. However, I have even less confidence in Heyer. I would have felt better if Jansen remained our starter for 2008 and was relegated to backup duty in 2009.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2008, 08:19 PM   #55
Playmaker
 
skinsfan_nn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Newport News,Virginia
Age: 49
Posts: 4,495
Re: Heyer will Start against Giants

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha View Post
I don't feel very good about this move. Granted, Jansen's skills have eroded considerably since 2003 and he looked dreadful in pass protection this preseason. However, I have even less confidence in Heyer. I would have felt better if Jansen remained our starter for 2008 and was relegated to backup duty in 2009.
Well Heyer certainly outplayed Jansen all this pre-season when available IMO. Including the last game against the Jags. And the game prior Jansen got beat to a pulp by Carolinas DE.

What have you seen that gives you less confidence in Heyer?

And who really knows if the move will last maybe, just maybe (but I'm not to optimistic) this is what Jansen needed to get his butt in the highest gear he has left.

Furthermore, I really don't see a next year in Jansen's future with the Skins.
__________________
"There's no greater feeling than moving a man from Point A to Point B, against his will." #68

THANKS COACH GIBBS FOR EVERYTHING! YOUR THE MAN AND ALWAYS WILL BE!
skinsfan_nn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2008, 10:15 PM   #56
Camp Scrub
 
BugelDisciple's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 46
Re: Heyer will Start against Giants

I would be pumped about the decision to bench Jansen if Heyer didn't get destroyed in the playoff game in Seattle. Hopefully Heyer's commitment to the offseason training program really improved his lower body strength, which I think was a weakness for him last year, especially in pass protection.
BugelDisciple is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2008, 10:58 PM   #57
Impact Rookie
 
doughtydoubter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: the glorious city of DC
Posts: 697
Re: Heyer will Start against Giants

im stoked for this decision..
I think heyer played pretty well for a rookie last year in pass protection and he can only improve under buges. Ive been a heyer fan since he swept in last preseason for samuels.
My main concern is his run blocking. Can he excel? That was the one area jansen was still pretty decent on.
doughtydoubter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2008, 07:20 AM   #58
Pro Bowl
 
Beemnseven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Virginia Beach
Age: 40
Posts: 5,293
Re: Heyer will Start against Giants

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoSkins! View Post
What I have not been able to get over is that Jansen seems so oblivious to his drop off in play. It is like he has blinders on when some "no name" DE is pancaking him on the way to a sack. If he would just once say something like "I haven't played at as high of a level yet as I need to, but I'm confident I will get there soon and win back my job. The rust from the injury and missing last year is almost off...", then I'd respect that.

What he does say is:
  • "It really doesn't matter how I grade myself,"
  • explanations were "nothing that I felt was reason enough."
  • I've felt I've done a good job this preseason. I didn't play very well against the Panthers, but neither did anybody else. Until then, I've had lot people in the organization tell me I was having the best camp I've ever had."
Sorry, but the guy just doesn't even see whats going on. He has a delusional self image. Maybe this makes him work harder and get back to being a good RT.
Well, let's not pile on Jansen because he didn't admit that he sucked. Not many players do that. If they do, that means they're starting to question their self-confidence; and when that happens their career is definitely over.

Also, when he said, "It really doesn't matter how I grade myself," all he's saying is that regardless of his own impressions, he realizes the coaches make the decisions. I also heard that he said something like, 'we're the players, they're the coaches'.

So he understands his role, it's not as though he's acting like a jerk or anything.
Beemnseven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2008, 08:26 AM   #59
‎\m/
 
Mattyk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 41
Posts: 80,672
Re: Heyer will Start against Giants

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beemnseven View Post
Well, let's not pile on Jansen because he didn't admit that he sucked. Not many players do that. If they do, that means they're starting to question their self-confidence; and when that happens their career is definitely over.

Also, when he said, "It really doesn't matter how I grade myself," all he's saying is that regardless of his own impressions, he realizes the coaches make the decisions. I also heard that he said something like, 'we're the players, they're the coaches'.

So he understands his role, it's not as though he's acting like a jerk or anything.
Yep I agree.

No player is going to admit his game is slipping, and I'm sure that in his mind he just doesn't see it. That's the athlete's mentality.
__________________
Support The Warpath! | Warpath Shop
Mattyk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2008, 09:50 AM   #60
Playmaker
 
Defensewins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 2,839
Re: Heyer will Start against Giants

He should keep his mouth shut and earn his spot back. I would respect that more than hearing about what he feels he deserves. He needs to prove himself on the field. He is a great teamate and a wonderful human being (to quote the late Howard Cossell). But that is not enough to keep your starting job.

Last edited by Defensewins; 09-02-2008 at 09:55 AM.
Defensewins is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:22 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site is not officially affiliated with the Washington Redskins or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.30331 seconds with 9 queries

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25