Heyer will Start against Giants

GTripp0012 · 08-31-2008, 01:32 PM

Heyer to Start; Practice Squad Set (Updated) - Redskins Insider

No word on whether this is a demotion for Jansen, or a one time thing due to injury.

JGisLordOfTheRings · 08-31-2008, 01:37 PM

Thank the lord. I love JJ but I'm tired of seeing him get destroyed by less than top flite pass rushers. I think he and Heyer should split a lil time.

over the mountain · 08-31-2008, 01:55 PM

I hope its not permanent (atleast for this season). I love the terps and was impressed by what heyer was able to do in a pretty crazy situation last year as an undrafted rookie but I still think jansen is our best option at RT. Jansen has slowed alot since the year he played with 2 broken hands(?) but he is still imo the entrenched starter. Next year i would like to see a very competitive battle for the RT spot with jansen given every opportunity to keep it. Jansen isnt an elite or even great tackle anymore but he is still good and gives us the best chance to win this year imo.

heyer's got that great big body with a large wing span and reports were that he reported to camp in great shape but i think he is still a year away from getting serious starter discussion. I also would like us to draft a tackle next year in the first couple of rounds.

go skins! only 5 days left!!!

go skins!

JWsleep · 08-31-2008, 01:59 PM

My guess is that it's a combination of the injury and Jansen's piss-poor play this pre-season. I am very curious to see how Jansen responds--my hope it that it will light a fire under him and he'll step back in. He's got a lot of pride as a player. Now he needs to step up and show why he should start.

Funny how Wise at the Post thought this was disrespectful to Jansen. Does he really think Jansen won the job this season? And it puts the lie to Wise's comments about a lack of open competition in camp. The FO can't win here, I suppose: either they've gone too much with draft picks or they aren't respecting vets. I have an idea: let's just let the Post pick and coach the team. That would solve all our problems, no doubt!

dall-assblows · 08-31-2008, 02:04 PM

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CRedskinsRule · 08-31-2008, 02:10 PM

tryon <> DG YET! (great if he becomes a 20yr Skin)

JWsleep · 08-31-2008, 02:13 PM

Tyron has more potential than the cut DBs, IMO. Let's see if he can improve over time. With draft picks, a little patience!!!

Daseal · 08-31-2008, 02:49 PM

Good call. Jansen is finished IMO. He did a lot for the franchise, but his time is over.

12thMan · 08-31-2008, 03:05 PM

Bottom line, Jansen had a horrible pre-season. Stevie Wonder could have seen that. I like the fact that coach Zorn has the guts to make the call before we got two or three games into the season, and watch Jansen struggle horribly. He's making this a non-controversy before it get's off the ground. Good call.

mooby · 08-31-2008, 03:18 PM

Agreed.

I think this is pretty much a combination of Jansen's injury and the fact that he sucked in preseason as well. I'm curious to see if this is Zorn's way of lighting a fire under Jansen's ass, or if this pretty much means it's the end of Jansen's time in Washington.

12thMan · 08-31-2008, 03:25 PM

I mean, at this point what's the point of lighting a fire under Jansen? I don't get that part at all. If anything, it's lighting a fire under Heyer not Jansen. It will encourage Heyer to continue to improve and get even better game after game. Jansen had all the incentive in the world to keep his job and show that he deserved it.

At any rate, whether it's Jansen or Heyer, both are much, much, much better than Todd Wade.

Ijaeger · 08-31-2008, 03:33 PM

jansen will probably get the start against the saints, i'm sure zorn will say the only reason heyer is starting is so jansen can rest his injury...despite his comments earlier in the week.

12thMan · 08-31-2008, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ijaeger

jansen will probably get the start against the saints, i'm sure zorn will say the only reason heyer is starting is so jansen can rest his injury...despite his comments earlier in the week.

I gotta disagree with you here. If Heyer holds it down against the Giants, no way in hell Zorn benches him just because Jansen's foot is better. Truth is this is probably an injury Jansen could, if he had to, play with. And for the entire pre-season you could probably slip a butter knife between the two of them in terms of quality of play.

Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor · 08-31-2008, 03:39 PM

I dooubt it. Jansen is done. I have said in a previous post that we need to upgrade the right tackle position for the last couple of years. I mean Al Saunders could not get his scheme to really work without protection. I also believe that Samuels need to move to the right tackle position and we need to draft someone to play left tackle for us a la Walter Jones to protect Campbell's blind side. I honestly believe we need to get more athletic on the offensive line. Seattle's GM stated that he always wanted a bid, fast and agile group and we are definitely lacking that. I believe in next years draft we will focus on this offensive line as well as defensive line.

53Fan · 08-31-2008, 03:43 PM

I like Jansen and appreciate his play all these years. But for him to act all surprised about not starting confirms what I've been thinking. The offensive line seems to think they are greater than their play indicates. They seem to be caught up in the idea that they are great. They CAN be , but they have'nt been. It's time to live up to your name.

08-31-2008, 01:32 PM	#1
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Age: 25 Posts: 15,143	Heyer will Start against Giants Heyer to Start; Practice Squad Set (Updated) - Redskins Insider No word on whether this is a demotion for Jansen, or a one time thing due to injury. __________________ Shanahan: “The bad thing is he's [Sav Rocca] probably our best offensive weapon and that’s not good.”

08-31-2008, 01:37 PM	#2
JGisLordOfTheRings The Starter Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Richmond VA Age: 27 Posts: 2,186	Re: Heyer will Start against Giants Thank the lord. I love JJ but I'm tired of seeing him get destroyed by less than top flite pass rushers. I think he and Heyer should split a lil time. __________________ Creator of the Useless Thread

08-31-2008, 01:55 PM	#3
over the mountain Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: baltimore Posts: 2,670	Re: Heyer will Start against Giants I hope its not permanent (atleast for this season). I love the terps and was impressed by what heyer was able to do in a pretty crazy situation last year as an undrafted rookie but I still think jansen is our best option at RT. Jansen has slowed alot since the year he played with 2 broken hands(?) but he is still imo the entrenched starter. Next year i would like to see a very competitive battle for the RT spot with jansen given every opportunity to keep it. Jansen isnt an elite or even great tackle anymore but he is still good and gives us the best chance to win this year imo. heyer's got that great big body with a large wing span and reports were that he reported to camp in great shape but i think he is still a year away from getting serious starter discussion. I also would like us to draft a tackle next year in the first couple of rounds. go skins! only 5 days left!!! go skins!

08-31-2008, 01:59 PM	#4
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 44 Posts: 4,576	Re: Heyer will Start against Giants My guess is that it's a combination of the injury and Jansen's piss-poor play this pre-season. I am very curious to see how Jansen responds--my hope it that it will light a fire under him and he'll step back in. He's got a lot of pride as a player. Now he needs to step up and show why he should start. Funny how Wise at the Post thought this was disrespectful to Jansen. Does he really think Jansen won the job this season? And it puts the lie to Wise's comments about a lack of open competition in camp. The FO can't win here, I suppose: either they've gone too much with draft picks or they aren't respecting vets. I have an idea: let's just let the Post pick and coach the team. That would solve all our problems, no doubt! __________________ Hail from Houston!

08-31-2008, 02:04 PM	#5
dall-assblows The Starter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: round the way Age: 30 Posts: 2,211	Re: Heyer will Start against Giants tryon = darrell green __________________ SOMEBODY PINCH ME

08-31-2008, 02:10 PM	#6
CRedskinsRule MVP Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Pasadena, Md Age: 45 Posts: 10,907	Re: Heyer will Start against Giants tryon <> DG YET! (great if he becomes a 20yr Skin)

08-31-2008, 02:13 PM	#7
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 44 Posts: 4,576	Re: Heyer will Start against Giants Tyron has more potential than the cut DBs, IMO. Let's see if he can improve over time. With draft picks, a little patience!!! __________________ Hail from Houston!

08-31-2008, 02:49 PM	#8
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 8,058	Re: Heyer will Start against Giants Good call. Jansen is finished IMO. He did a lot for the franchise, but his time is over. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

08-31-2008, 03:05 PM	#9
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,363	Re: Heyer will Start against Giants Bottom line, Jansen had a horrible pre-season. Stevie Wonder could have seen that. I like the fact that coach Zorn has the guts to make the call before we got two or three games into the season, and watch Jansen struggle horribly. He's making this a non-controversy before it get's off the ground. Good call.

08-31-2008, 03:18 PM	#10
mooby MVP Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NoVa Age: 24 Posts: 11,179	Re: Heyer will Start against Giants Agreed. I think this is pretty much a combination of Jansen's injury and the fact that he sucked in preseason as well. I'm curious to see if this is Zorn's way of lighting a fire under Jansen's ass, or if this pretty much means it's the end of Jansen's time in Washington.

08-31-2008, 03:25 PM	#11
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,363	Re: Heyer will Start against Giants I mean, at this point what's the point of lighting a fire under Jansen? I don't get that part at all. If anything, it's lighting a fire under Heyer not Jansen. It will encourage Heyer to continue to improve and get even better game after game. Jansen had all the incentive in the world to keep his job and show that he deserved it. At any rate, whether it's Jansen or Heyer, both are *much, much, much* better than Todd Wade.

08-31-2008, 03:33 PM	#12
Ijaeger Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 130	Re: Heyer will Start against Giants jansen will probably get the start against the saints, i'm sure zorn will say the only reason heyer is starting is so jansen can rest his injury...despite his comments earlier in the week.

08-31-2008, 03:39 PM	#14
Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Queens Village, NY Age: 32 Posts: 349	Re: Heyer will Start against Giants I dooubt it. Jansen is done. I have said in a previous post that we need to upgrade the right tackle position for the last couple of years. I mean Al Saunders could not get his scheme to really work without protection. I also believe that Samuels need to move to the right tackle position and we need to draft someone to play left tackle for us a la Walter Jones to protect Campbell's blind side. I honestly believe we need to get more athletic on the offensive line. Seattle's GM stated that he always wanted a bid, fast and agile group and we are definitely lacking that. I believe in next years draft we will focus on this offensive line as well as defensive line.

08-31-2008, 03:43 PM	#15
53Fan Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,354	Re: Heyer will Start against Giants I like Jansen and appreciate his play all these years. But for him to act all surprised about not starting confirms what I've been thinking. The offensive line seems to think they are greater than their play indicates. They seem to be caught up in the idea that they are great. They CAN be , but they have'nt been. It's time to live up to your name.

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