Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

why? i havent joined the colt bandwagon like some other people,but if zorn would have stuck him in at some point in the second half I wouldnt have been unhappy with the descision,unlike every other frickin one he made tonite

I would have been very unhappy if Zorn put in Brennan. A lot of you know how happy I am that we picked Colt, but if Zorn put him in the game week 1, then that would show 0% confidence in Campbell. That would be a moronic move, and if he did that, I'd be ready to fire Zorn. Did campbell play well? Absolutely not! But you let Zorn review the tapes and work with Campbell, you don't pull the rug out week 1. If we're 2-11 and it's mainly campbell's fault...sure, I can see the move, but this is Campbell's team, and you let him work through it. Campbell played MUCH better in the 2nd half, hopefully he will build on it.

I am a little concerned at how quick everyone is ready to hit the panic button. It's not even "hitting" the panic button, it's jumping on it over and over and over. Relax guys, we can do this (lose) about 6 more times and we can still make the playoffs.

[Jamaican'Skin]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

Are you sure you aren't getting Landry and Rogers confused? Rogers was NOT our best player....

Stop trying to make this some kind of personal attack, ok? Please tell me how you think it's personal? I mean to make it personal I'd have to know the guy, or some how be personally involved in his career or life. It isn't a personal attack and I'm NOT the only fan that feels this way about JC and Rogers. Turn on sports talk 980... and you'll find quite a few people that agree with me!!! I am passionate about my Skins, that I am! If Rogers played well I would praise him, and I've done that before with him and JC. So instead of calling my opinon "personal".... why not list all the reasons you think I’m wrong.

Well speaking on behalf of the board, it just appears that this entire offseason, you've had little to no praise for the guy, and it is a steady constant. After a while, it just gets annoying to read over and over again

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

I don't have reason? ..... what a joke. For the last time, it is NOT personal. I’m not even sure how you can call getting upset about a NFL player “personal”. I don’t know him, he’s not my neighbor, and I’m not banging him. I only see him out there with my Skins every week and that is enough to make me not want him around. It is about winning and JC cannot get it done. He is mediocre AT BEST. He's had enough time.. more than enough IMO. As for Rogers, he's been playing the same way since he came here and has never improved, regardless of his knee. You think teams constantly throw his way because he's good?

It's not??? I'm sure someone can find it but you said in one of your comments in another thread " get rid of the beast." You were talking about JC. Sorry but that's personal. If I'm wrong I'm sorry. But I doubt it. I remembered that comment and I think that's taking it a bit too far.

If you know anything about football you would know that Plaxico B. is just a tough guy to cover one on one. The guy is 6'5 and 230 lbs. Rogers ( and Smoot) were in position a couple of times but Burress just made the play, like he does against most corners. When he wants it, Burress is one of the best wr's in the NFL. He single handedly put NY in the SB last year when he went off against GB in -20 weather. The guy is just a physical freak. What I'm most pissed about is why isn't he on our team? He was a free agent and Pittsburgh didn't want him. We could've signed this guy but instead we signed guys that are not as good as he is.

Sometimes you just have to tip your cap to the other team. NY was better last night. It's one game. Let's get behind our team and try and beat a very tough NO team.

[dmvskinzfan08]

I am not making excuses for anyone.

If JC can't find an open receiver he needs to run more (WRs need to creat some separation).

The WRs need to work on their YAC if they can't get to the 1st down marker on 3rd down.

the Dline needs to tighten up in the middle. The giants ran up the middle like it was butter.

Zorn needs to call better plays and manage the game quicker.

JC needs to make quicker decision but he by no means lost us the game.

WRs need to fight for the ball and make the catch before they run.

Our rookie WRs need to get their shit togther and produce.

Our o-line needs to block better on run and passing plays.

[doughtydoubter]

lets just bring spurrier back

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

I am not making excuses for anyone.

If JC can't find an open receiver he needs to run more (WRs need to creat some separation).

The WRs need to work on their YAC if they can't get to the 1st down marker on 3rd down.

the Dline needs to tighten up in the middle. The giants ran up the middle like it was butter.

Zorn needs to call better plays and manage the game quicker.

JC needs to make quicker decision but he by no means lost us the game.

WRs need to fight for the ball and make the catch before they run.

Our rookie WRs need to get their shit togther and produce.

Our o-line needs to block better on run and passing plays.

Everyone knew that the rookies were not going to contribute, they never do. So that's more like wishful thinking.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

You think that was taking it a bit too far? Calling him a beast? (ha ha) .. If you are going to call me out for insulting JC after a poorly played game, then you better call out the guy who called JC a bitch, and the numerous other posters that have used derogatory name calling after games. After games we all are excited and stay things that aren't always so nice because we are often pissed off, so for that I'm sorry. I'm also sorry I'm not saying what you want to hear about JC, but that tends to happen on message boards.

But Hess that wasn't after a game. You can say what you want. You're a grown up. I'm over it and I'm moving on.

[JLee9718]

We lost, dang it. I still hate the Giants and Cowboys! I wish the Redskins had played more agressively. And in defense of Zorn, the players have to execute better. If they don't, then your game plan is going to look worse than it really is.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

I am not making excuses for anyone.

If JC can't find an open receiver he needs to run more (WRs need to creat some separation).

The WRs need to work on their YAC if they can't get to the 1st down marker on 3rd down.

the Dline needs to tighten up in the middle. The giants ran up the middle like it was butter.

Zorn needs to call better plays and manage the game quicker.

JC needs to make quicker decision but he by no means lost us the game.

WRs need to fight for the ball and make the catch before they run.

Our rookie WRs need to get their shit togther and produce.

Our o-line needs to block better on run and passing plays.

Well with the way JC played its hard to tell if we have the other issues on O that you pointed out. The line blocked OK on passing plays but JC held the ball too long. On the first play he was starring at Moss while one WR stood right in the middle of the field wide open then JC rolled right into the sack. I also think this loss has to be put on JC because of his play.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Well with the way JC played its hard to tell if we have the other issues on O that you pointed out. The line blocked OK on passing plays but JC held the ball too long. On the first play he was starring at Moss while one WR stood right in the middle of the field wide open then JC rolled right into the sack. I also think this loss has to be put on JC because of his play.

I saw that too.

I watched the game for the third time last night and that play is really burned in my mind becuase he does not pan the field at all.

If he did he would have noticed Yoder sitting between LBer zones and also if he panned further to his left he could have used Portis as a checkdown in the flats.

Instead Campbell locks on between Moss and Cooley on the right side and even rolls himself towards oncoming defenders who evetually sack him.

You need to sling it in this offense and Campbell looks way too tentative when he drops back. Watching Campbell hold on the ball too long the rest of the game made me start to debate a change at QB.

[Monkeydad]

Very disappointing.

I believe Zorn learned a lot of lessons in this game and will correct them. I saw an interview this weekend on CSN with Zorn. He admitted he called too many runs, didn't get past the markers for first down, lost track of the clock and saw the O-line problem (Heyer). He took the blame for everything and said he learned what he (and the team) need to work on.

We WILL improve.

I expect a much better showing vs. the Saints. Smoot and Springs are expected to be back.

The defense played pretty well except for the dropped INTs. We held them to nothing in the second and only 1 TD all game. London Fletcher was a monster, 17 tackles!





Some reasons to be optimistic about the future and the season:

Gibbs started 0-5.

Also, every other time the Giants have won the Super Bowl, the REDSKINS won the following season!

SB XXI - Giants beat Broncos
SB XXII - Redskins beat Broncos

SB XXV - Giants beat Bills
SB XXVI - Redskins beat Bills

So we'll beat the Patrio...oh wait, they're finished now.