Fielding a competitive team

Skinny Tee · 09-07-2008, 09:22 PM

*** WARNING CYNICAL PERSPECTIVE AHEAD ***

After THU's blowup how do you think our team will compete with our NFC East opponents this coming year.

Granted, only one game has passed but if you just take the overall dynamic of each team and compare them we are in NO shape to even remain competitive during each matchup.

I don't mind losing games by any stretch but the fact that we can't even hold run of the mill competition for any opponent is disconcerting. I don't know if you guys watched any games from teams in our division today but if we're going to be competitive in the face of that opposition we're going to need some unscrupulous airplane mechanics in our pocket.

If were not 1-4 by the time we cycle through the NFC East at the end of Week 5 then you won't have to hear my cynicism again this year, I won't make another post until the offseason

...but if they are

jgalecpa · 09-07-2008, 09:28 PM

It's gonna be tough, in reality.

If you saw the games today, Philly and Dallas looked tough.

After 5 weeks, the Giants and the 'boyz could each be 4-1 and the eagles 3-2.

We could be lucky to be 2-3,

However, if they get the bugs out of the system by the end of the season, we could be ok against the other teams, but sub .500 for NFC east teams.

J-Dawg.

724Skinsfan · 09-07-2008, 09:34 PM

It's practically the same team that beat the crap out of the Giants late last season. Not having Springs to lead the secondary put a big hurt on us. Zorn obviously needs a little more work with his play calling and clock management. Once he's up to speed, and he will be up to speed soon given his competitive nature, we'll be in the thick of things. We're fielding a competitive team, just not providing the best coaching for the team.

rypper11 · 09-07-2008, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

If were not 1-4 by the time we cycle through the NFC East at the end of Week 5 then you won't have to hear my cynicism again this year, I won't make another post until the offseason

...but if they are

We might be 0-5. Of course, then the schedule gets much nicer and there is a spot at the end which is real nice. 0-5 start is real possible but a wildcard finish from there is just as possible.

That Guy · 09-07-2008, 10:10 PM

we lost by 9 points with plenty of shots to win and failures on 3rd and 1... work the offense, a little more health (Springs, landry/taylor) and hopefully we can stop talking about blowing up the team 3 hours into the season.

Darrell_Green_28 · 09-07-2008, 10:24 PM

and we could possibly go 4-1 into the first 5 games.. thats why they play the game.

Skinny Tee · 09-07-2008, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Darrell_Green_28

and we could possibly go 4-1 into the first 5 games.. thats why they play the game.

Are you watching the same games that I am. I can appreciate your optimism though.

They had 8 offensive yards to 20 penalty yards late in the 2nd quarter. There were so many more negatives than positives. If you had to name a Horse Trailer Player of the Game for us it would have been a yellow flag.

I don't want to be a downer but I would like to observe some semblance of reality. A lot of what they are doing wrong is going to take months to correct.

SkinzzFan · 09-07-2008, 11:12 PM

The sky is falling, the sky is falling!!

Seriously, it was 1 game! Yes, it was an awful game but it was still 1 game. Let's see what happens next week against New Orleans before we throw in the towel. I'm definitely concerned too, but I'm not going to give up on the season yet. Hell, we were 5-7 last year and made a run to the playoffs. Two years before that we were 5-6 and made a run to the playoffs then too. There are alot of the same guys on this team who know not to panic and to just keep grinding away. I'm not too sure about the playoffs but you never know. Please keep the Dallas and Philly games in perspective. Cleveland's secondary is pitiful and St. Louis had the 2nd overall pick in the draft for a reason. We didn't match up well with the Giants the other night (when do we EVER play well up there?) but it was 1 game (I think I said that already). We were the only ones playing the defending Champs at home this week. My point is we could come out firing on all cylinders next weekend and stomp the Saints a$$. If that happens, we'll have the Skins in the Superbowl and Jason Campbell in the Hall of Fame. Let's not over-react to anything negative or positive, it's really really early.

For the record, I'm on the Jason Campbell bandwagon and have been from the start. I'm not jumping off just because of 1 game (I've really got to stop repeating myself). LOL.

HAIL!!

steveo395 · 09-07-2008, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Are you watching the same games that I am. I can appreciate your optimism though.

They had 8 offensive yards to 20 penalty yards late in the 2nd quarter. There were so many more negatives than positives. If you had to name a Horse Trailer Player of the Game for us it would have been a yellow flag.

I don't want to be a downer but I would like to observe some semblance of reality. A lot of what they are doing wrong is going to take months to correct.

It was one game. One game doesn't mean that much. Do you think the Falcons offense is going to be great this year just because they put up 34 points today? Do you think the Rams offense is going to be the worst in the league this year because they only put up 3 points?

jsarno · 09-07-2008, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by steveo395

It was one game. One game doesn't mean that much. Do you think the Falcons offense is going to be great this year just because they put up 34 points today? Do you think the Rams offense is going to be the worst in the league this year because they only put up 3 points?

Hold up...using logic to make your point? I think it's going to fall on deaf ears. When people get to the point of "the sky is falling" there is nothing you can say to convince them to come off the ledge. If only we could persuade them to jump.

Metophorically of course.

for the record...your are right on the mark!

steveo395 · 09-07-2008, 11:38 PM

Who knows maybe Campbell will end up totally sucking, but I know he has already shown that he is better than how he played Thursday. A lot of his problems seemed to be from not knowing the offense that well. That is something that can be corrected, but it might take a few weeks. Also the play calling and game management were pretty bad, which is something that Zorn has to work on. The Redskins definitely have some problems, but at least they know exactly what they need to fix now.

53Fan · 09-07-2008, 11:55 PM

I have no idea what we're gonna do this year because the season is 1 week old and I have no history to go by on Zorn. If I could tell how teams are gonna do after 1 week I would place my super bowl bets right now. All I can say is I see qualities in Zorn that I like, just like the front office must have. And like SkinzzFan said, these guys have been down before and came back to make the playoffs. When NOBODY thought they would I might add. I personally can't tell yet, just like I could'nt tell that Gibbs would take us to 4 super bowls even after he completed his first year here. Speculation is speculation pure and simple. The more facts you have the easier it is to speculate and be right. There just has'nt been enough time or evidence to know right now. Because there is no penalty about having an opinion and being wrong, it's easy to say whatever you feel, and right now we all feel like crap.

Ruhskins · 09-08-2008, 12:34 AM

When did losing by 9 points become a blowout?

Darrell_Green_28 · 09-08-2008, 12:38 AM

guess it also means the colts' season is over now

Ruhskins · 09-08-2008, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Darrell_Green_28

guess it also means the colts' season is over now

Yup, according to some of our fans, the following teams are done for the season after losing their first game: St. Louis (ladies and gentleman, that's a blowout), Detroit, Seattle, Jax, Miami (well they truly may be done, LOL.), Tampa Bay, Kansas City (although way to take out Brady!), Houston, Cincy, San Diego, San Franscisco, and Indianapolis.

:smashfrea

09-07-2008, 09:22 PM	#1
Skinny Tee The Starter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Redskins Nation Posts: 1,715	Fielding a competitive team * WARNING CYNICAL PERSPECTIVE AHEAD * After THU's blowup how do you think our team will compete with our NFC East opponents this coming year. Granted, only one game has passed but if you just take the overall dynamic of each team and compare them we are in NO shape to even remain competitive during each matchup. I don't mind losing games by any stretch but the fact that we can't even hold run of the mill competition for any opponent is disconcerting. I don't know if you guys watched any games from teams in our division today but if we're going to be competitive in the face of that opposition we're going to need some unscrupulous airplane mechanics in our pocket. If were not 1-4 by the time we cycle through the NFC East at the end of Week 5 then you won't have to hear my cynicism again this year, I won't make another post until the offseason ...but if they are __________________ Redskinsly, _________Skinny Tee_________

09-07-2008, 09:28 PM	#2
jgalecpa Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 457	Re: Fielding a competitive team It's gonna be tough, in reality. If you saw the games today, Philly and Dallas looked tough. After 5 weeks, the Giants and the 'boyz could each be 4-1 and the eagles 3-2. We could be lucky to be 2-3, However, if they get the bugs out of the system by the end of the season, we could be ok against the other teams, but sub .500 for NFC east teams. J-Dawg. __________________ Theismann: You're wrong, the rule is wrong, the refs are wrong, and I'm right

09-07-2008, 09:34 PM	#3
724Skinsfan Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 3,476	Re: Fielding a competitive team It's practically the same team that beat the crap out of the Giants late last season. Not having Springs to lead the secondary put a big hurt on us. Zorn obviously needs a little more work with his play calling and clock management. Once he's up to speed, and he will be up to speed soon given his competitive nature, we'll be in the thick of things. We're fielding a competitive team, just not providing the best coaching for the team. __________________ "I hope I'm getting better. I hope you haven't seen my best." - Jim Zorn

09-07-2008, 10:10 PM	#5
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 30 Posts: 15,642	Re: Fielding a competitive team we lost by 9 points with plenty of shots to win and failures on 3rd and 1... work the offense, a little more health (Springs, landry/taylor) and hopefully we can stop talking about blowing up the team 3 hours into the season. __________________ Who says shameless self promotion is stupid? oh yeah, that was me... Click For Tunes!

09-07-2008, 10:24 PM	#6
Darrell_Green_28 The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Age: 44 Posts: 1,949	Re: Fielding a competitive team and we could possibly go 4-1 into the first 5 games.. thats why they play the game. __________________ Light travels faster than sound. That's why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

09-07-2008, 11:12 PM	#8
SkinzzFan Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Washington DC Posts: 244	Re: Fielding a competitive team The sky is falling, the sky is falling!! Seriously, it was 1 game! Yes, it was an awful game but it was still 1 game. Let's see what happens next week against New Orleans before we throw in the towel. I'm definitely concerned too, but I'm not going to give up on the season yet. Hell, we were 5-7 last year and made a run to the playoffs. Two years before that we were 5-6 and made a run to the playoffs then too. There are alot of the same guys on this team who know not to panic and to just keep grinding away. I'm not too sure about the playoffs but you never know. Please keep the Dallas and Philly games in perspective. Cleveland's secondary is pitiful and St. Louis had the 2nd overall pick in the draft for a reason. We didn't match up well with the Giants the other night (when do we EVER play well up there?) but it was 1 game (I think I said that already). We were the only ones playing the defending Champs at home this week. My point is we could come out firing on all cylinders next weekend and stomp the Saints a$$. If that happens, we'll have the Skins in the Superbowl and Jason Campbell in the Hall of Fame. Let's not over-react to anything negative or positive, it's really really early. For the record, I'm on the Jason Campbell bandwagon and have been from the start. I'm not jumping off just because of 1 game (I've really got to stop repeating myself). LOL. HAIL!! __________________ "Baseball is what we were, football is what we have become"

09-07-2008, 11:38 PM	#11
steveo395 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,673	Re: Fielding a competitive team Who knows maybe Campbell will end up totally sucking, but I know he has already shown that he is better than how he played Thursday. A lot of his problems seemed to be from not knowing the offense that well. That is something that can be corrected, but it might take a few weeks. Also the play calling and game management were pretty bad, which is something that Zorn has to work on. The Redskins definitely have some problems, but at least they know exactly what they need to fix now. __________________

09-07-2008, 11:55 PM	#12
53Fan Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,360	Re: Fielding a competitive team I have no idea what we're gonna do this year because the season is 1 week old and I have no history to go by on Zorn. If I could tell how teams are gonna do after 1 week I would place my super bowl bets right now. All I can say is I see qualities in Zorn that I like, just like the front office must have. And like SkinzzFan said, these guys have been down before and came back to make the playoffs. When NOBODY thought they would I might add. I personally can't tell yet, just like I could'nt tell that Gibbs would take us to 4 super bowls even after he completed his first year here. Speculation is speculation pure and simple. The more facts you have the easier it is to speculate and be right. There just has'nt been enough time or evidence to know right now. Because there is no penalty about having an opinion and being wrong, it's easy to say whatever you feel, and right now we all feel like crap.

09-08-2008, 12:34 AM	#13
Ruhskins Gamebreaker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbia, MD Age: 34 Posts: 14,613	Re: Fielding a competitive team When did losing by 9 points become a blowout? __________________ R.I.P. #21 New words created on The Warpath: Rewalsr - Somretimes - Fualt - Jersesy - Itiot - Composetory Afeard - Storgn - Empliment - Gaissn - Saftys - Minnisota Faviort - Hatter - Phsyched - Foof - Heloing - Brutual Stroried Check out this cool local internet radio show Weds 7-9pm: The DC Sports Chat I sense an annoyance in the Force

09-08-2008, 12:38 AM	#14
Darrell_Green_28 The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Age: 44 Posts: 1,949	Re: Fielding a competitive team guess it also means the colts' season is over now __________________ Light travels faster than sound. That's why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

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