Should Zorn Adapt to Campbell?

mooby · 09-11-2008, 02:09 AM

I don't think we need to change the system entirely because that would over compensating imo but good coaches do adjust the system to fit their players. It seems to me Zorn is doing that to help out Jason right now so hopefully this will help him become better. But this thing will take time, so it's important to not overreact too much after one game. If this becomes a problem the entire season then yes it may be warranted but right now it's too early to tell.

irish · 09-11-2008, 11:15 AM

In the end, its up to JC to get it done. I think Zorn has been adapting to JC all along.

memphisskin · 09-11-2008, 12:47 PM

Kind of early for Zorn to be adjusting to Campbell. I think they are still learning, Campbell learning the system and Zorn learning his offensive personnel.

One adjustment I look for this game, Campbell won't be taking a three step drop to start this game.

Larry Michael is Satan · 09-11-2008, 01:10 PM

I'd like to see him be able to audible to a run out of the shotgun, which I would think plays into CP's strengths and the zone blocking scheme. But it's true, you do take away a good chunk of the running plays in shotgun, and are tipping your hand to the D. Hopefully Zorn will adapt, because this O wasn't built for the WCO.

mcarey032 · 09-11-2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

To Zorn's credit he's already said he will allow JC to work out of the gun more. I think we can count this as an adjustment, because Zorn is clearly not a huge fan of the shotgun.

All in all though I really think that Zorn feels he's not asking JC to do something that he's not capable of doing.

Yes that maybe true, but it isn't like we have the ideal receivers to run the WCO. I know that the seattle receivers aren't really tall, but they aren't as short as Randle El and Moss. It is hard when you take a 3 and 5 step drop and you are hoping that the receiver is going to be to the spot because you can't see over the lineman and they get lost. There is a lot of faith that goes into that type of decision. I would say that it is wise for Zorn to change his philosophy to adapt to Jason's strengths.

Mattyk72 · 09-11-2008, 01:13 PM

Hopefully Malcolm Kelly will be able to make an impact. Cooley isn't short, throw him the damn ball too!

doughtydoubter · 09-12-2008, 11:50 AM

hopefully it will come together..

jsarno · 09-12-2008, 12:08 PM

I can see it both ways on this argument. Zorn certainly needs to see the strengths of his QB and adjust his gameplans accordingly, but Zorn is the coach, and it's Zorn's system, so of course, Campbell needs to do the bulk of the adjusting. All in all, I do not think either of them are too dumb to realize that.
I just have a feeling, by midpoint / latter part of the season, we're going to see a REALLY good skins team, but how far we will be in the hole is the question.

over the mountain · 09-12-2008, 12:47 PM

should zorn adjust to campbell?

as much as he can without debihilitating his ability to implement and run how he thinks a winning football team should be run.

(is "debihilitating" a word?)

go skins!!!

doughtydoubter · 09-12-2008, 02:31 PM

im of the opinion, that campbell as great as he could be was a gibbs guy. That zorn wanted brennan as his project in the making and if zorn was going to be a great coach he needs to not worry so much about his ideal system as to playing to the strengths of the team. Hey i know its early. But...gibbs always had a strength in the old days for playing to his teams strengths as individual players in an effort to making something great as a whole.

53Fan · 09-12-2008, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Hopefully Malcolm Kelly will be able to make an impact. Cooley isn't short, throw him the damn ball too!

I think the impact Kelly can have on this team is underestimated. This kid could make a huge difference.

DemSkins77 · 09-12-2008, 07:30 PM

Jason just needs to stop locking on one reciever, im sure he will get better

Mattyk72 · 09-12-2008, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 53Fan

I think the impact Kelly can have on this team is underestimated. This kid could make a huge difference.

I think so too, from most accounts he's much more "NFL ready" than Thomas. He could be a big help.

djnemo65 · 09-12-2008, 08:09 PM

Of course he should adjust. Spurrier taught us what happens when coaches value the genius of their system over their players' ability to execute it. But who is to say Zorn isn't adjusting to Campbell? We have played one game in which the entire offense looked terrible and failed to execute, let's see how things evolve over the course of the year. If Zorn is the coach we all believe he is he won't need Bos to tell him to adapt his system to match his quarterback's strengths.

09-11-2008, 02:09 AM	#31 (permalink)
mooby Director of Zornography Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Woodbridge, VA Posts: 4,129	Re: Should Zorn Adapt to Campbell? I don't think we need to change the system entirely because that would over compensating imo but good coaches do adjust the system to fit their players. It seems to me Zorn is doing that to help out Jason right now so hopefully this will help him become better. But this thing will take time, so it's important to not overreact too much after one game. If this becomes a problem the entire season then yes it may be warranted but right now it's too early to tell.

09-11-2008, 11:15 AM	#32 (permalink)
irish The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,928	Re: Should Zorn Adapt to Campbell? In the end, its up to JC to get it done. I think Zorn has been adapting to JC all along.

09-11-2008, 12:47 PM	#33 (permalink)
memphisskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 952	Re: Should Zorn Adapt to Campbell? Kind of early for Zorn to be adjusting to Campbell. I think they are still learning, Campbell learning the system and Zorn learning his offensive personnel. One adjustment I look for this game, Campbell won't be taking a three step drop to start this game.

09-11-2008, 01:10 PM	#34 (permalink)
Larry Michael is Satan Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 50	Re: Should Zorn Adapt to Campbell? I'd like to see him be able to audible to a run out of the shotgun, which I would think plays into CP's strengths and the zone blocking scheme. But it's true, you do take away a good chunk of the running plays in shotgun, and are tipping your hand to the D. Hopefully Zorn will adapt, because this O wasn't built for the WCO.

09-11-2008, 01:13 PM	#36 (permalink)
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09-12-2008, 11:50 AM	#37 (permalink)
doughtydoubter Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Manassas Posts: 365	Re: Should Zorn Adapt to Campbell? hopefully it will come together..

09-12-2008, 12:08 PM	#38 (permalink)
jsarno Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 31 Spooner St. Posts: 8,451	Re: Should Zorn Adapt to Campbell? I can see it both ways on this argument. Zorn certainly needs to see the strengths of his QB and adjust his gameplans accordingly, but Zorn is the coach, and it's Zorn's system, so of course, Campbell needs to do the bulk of the adjusting. All in all, I do not think either of them are too dumb to realize that. I just have a feeling, by midpoint / latter part of the season, we're going to see a REALLY good skins team, but how far we will be in the hole is the question. __________________ GO ZORN!

09-12-2008, 12:47 PM	#39 (permalink)
over the mountain Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: baltimore Posts: 643	Re: Should Zorn Adapt to Campbell? should zorn adjust to campbell? as much as he can without debihilitating his ability to implement and run how he thinks a winning football team should be run. (is "debihilitating" a word?) go skins!!!

09-12-2008, 02:31 PM	#40 (permalink)
doughtydoubter Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Manassas Posts: 365	Re: Should Zorn Adapt to Campbell? im of the opinion, that campbell as great as he could be was a gibbs guy. That zorn wanted brennan as his project in the making and if zorn was going to be a great coach he needs to not worry so much about his ideal system as to playing to the strengths of the team. Hey i know its early. But...gibbs always had a strength in the old days for playing to his teams strengths as individual players in an effort to making something great as a whole.

09-12-2008, 07:30 PM	#42 (permalink)
DemSkins77 Camp Scrub Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1	Re: Should Zorn Adapt to Campbell? Jason just needs to stop locking on one reciever, im sure he will get better

09-12-2008, 08:09 PM	#44 (permalink)
djnemo65 The Starter Join Date: May 2004 Location: Japan Posts: 2,300	Re: Should Zorn Adapt to Campbell? Of course he should adjust. Spurrier taught us what happens when coaches value the genius of their system over their players' ability to execute it. But who is to say Zorn isn't adjusting to Campbell? We have played one game in which the entire offense looked terrible and failed to execute, let's see how things evolve over the course of the year. If Zorn is the coach we all believe he is he won't need Bos to tell him to adapt his system to match his quarterback's strengths.

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