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Old 09-21-2008, 04:49 PM   #136
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Nah, just saying to keep you people happy. I mean if the coaches are not willing to take him out as you all want, then maybe fate can intervene on your behalf. I mean he's a terrible player, no?
Maybe not terrible, but he did get burned right down the middle of the field for a 60+ yard touchdown today. I'm afraid to see what happens next week when he's covering the deep middle against T.O.
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Old 09-21-2008, 04:55 PM   #137
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Maybe not terrible, but he did get burned right down the middle of the field for a 60+ yard touchdown today. I'm afraid to see what happens next week when he's covering the deep middle against T.O.
Well according to ESPN:
"The Cardinals tied the score again on the game's first offensive play of more than 20 yards. Fitzgerald, who last week had a 75-yard touchdown reception, sped past Reed Doughty and LaRon Landry on a post route for a 62-yard scoring pass."

But what do they know? It's all Doughty.

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Old 09-21-2008, 04:55 PM   #138
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Maybe not terrible, but he did get burned right down the middle of the field for a 60+ yard touchdown today. I'm afraid to see what happens next week when he's covering the deep middle against T.O.
He's not a future HOF who will never get beat (especially by one of the best wr's in the league). But how about his tackles all over the field, his half a forced fumble (I know, ff are only awarded to one player and Rocky will probably get the stat) plus the fact that the safety tandem limited the high powered Cards to only 1 play over 19 yards. Neither Horton nor Doughty will be in the Pro Bowl anytime in the next decade but both can be exceptional role players on a really good defense.
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Old 09-21-2008, 05:04 PM   #139
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yeah, I thought Doughty had a decent game today. I was pissed about the long td to Fitz but he was pretty sure on his tackling, with a couple of key third down stops.
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Old 09-21-2008, 05:07 PM   #140
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Well according to ESPN:
"The Cardinals tied the score again on the game's first offensive play of more than 20 yards. Fitzgerald, who last week had a 75-yard touchdown reception, sped past Reed Doughty and LaRon Landry on a post route for a 62-yard scoring pass."

But what do they know? It's all Doughty.
Watch the play again. Doughty was the deep safety on that particular pass. He is a liability in coverage and doesn't have the natural ability that Landry has, to make up for his lack of coverage skills.
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Old 09-21-2008, 05:10 PM   #141
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Neither Horton nor Doughty will be in the Pro Bowl anytime in the next decade but both can be exceptional role players on a really good defense.
You are correct in regards to Doughty, but what have you seen from Horton in his first three games that makes you so sure he is not a potential pro bowler? All I've seen is Horton putting himself in position to make plays, and a natural ability to be around the ball, often.

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Old 09-21-2008, 05:31 PM   #142
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Finally someone agress with me on Doughty (Southpaw) The guy is weak in pass coverage. The tackles are nice but if Horton were starting he would do the same thing maybe more. Ruhskins saw "your boy" Doughty didn't play a snap after he got burned by Fitz. I think its telling me Horton might start next week.
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Old 09-21-2008, 06:03 PM   #143
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I just want to know why in the hell Doughty was in coverage against Fitzgerrald in the first place. I know that they reported that Landry was there too, but it looked like all Doughty to me.

I would have thought that they would play Fitzgerrald with man coverage and a Safety over top. This was not the case on that play because they beat a cover 3. Thats 2 weeks in a row where the cover 3 worked against us.
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Old 09-21-2008, 06:26 PM   #144
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coverage was not that bad but it was a really nice pass.
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Old 09-21-2008, 07:35 PM   #145
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Well good, let's hope Doughty blows out his knee so Horton can play, or maybe he can singlehandedly causes our team to lose a game so he can be benched.

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Hope he blows out his knee? Are you kidding me? Eagles fans come up with s**t like this about their own. Didn't think we'd sink to that level.
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Old 09-21-2008, 09:50 PM   #146
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Old 09-22-2008, 12:01 AM   #147
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Well according to ESPN:
"The Cardinals tied the score again on the game's first offensive play of more than 20 yards. Fitzgerald, who last week had a 75-yard touchdown reception, sped past Reed Doughty and LaRon Landry on a post route for a 62-yard scoring pass."

But what do they know? It's all Doughty.

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Since when does ESPN get anything right (sorry SmootSmack)? But if you go back and watch the play we were in a two-deep scheme meaning Doughty was responsible for one half of the field and Landry the other half. Fitzgerald was on Doughty's half of the field, thus making Doughty responsible for coverage, not Landry.

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Old 09-22-2008, 12:01 AM   #148
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Doughty got benched after that TD.
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Old 09-22-2008, 12:06 AM   #149
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Doughty needs to be benched. I said before as far as experieinc Doughty should have played but as far as athleticsm Horton should have played. Point made. When we are going against a team who is primarily a running team we should use Doughty. A team with more of a passing attack. We should use Horton because of his speed and he is better in coverage. Honestly I think Horton is good coming up for the run too. Saying that experience aint ish unless you can make plays and not be a liability. Horton should start for the rest of the season. Definitely next week.
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Old 09-22-2008, 12:14 AM   #150
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