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Old 09-22-2008, 07:35 AM   #151
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Re: Goodbye Doughty, Hello Horton!

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Since when does ESPN get anything right (sorry SmootSmack)? But if you go back and watch the play we were in a two-deep scheme meaning Doughty was responsible for one half of the field and Landry the other half. Fitzgerald was on Doughty's half of the field, thus making Doughty responsible for coverage, not Landry.
Well to be clear, that's an Associated Press report, not an ESPN one. So you'll see the same thing on SI.com, CBSSports.com, Yahoo Sports, FoxSports.com, etc.

But I don't see where it says that anyway
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Old 09-22-2008, 07:45 AM   #152
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I thought Doughty got benched after the Fitzgerald td but i was not sure.
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Old 09-22-2008, 08:55 AM   #153
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Finally someone agress with me on Doughty (Southpaw) The guy is weak in pass coverage. The tackles are nice but if Horton were starting he would do the same thing maybe more. Ruhskins saw "your boy" Doughty didn't play a snap after he got burned by Fitz. I think its telling me Horton might start next week.
Doughty is not my boy, I just hate when people make stupid claims and blindly hate someone. I can't wait until the likes of you goes on a barrage of hate threads against Horton once he gets burned or makes a rookie mistake (Just like the wonderful people that flooded the anti-Campbell threads after week one). But don't worry, I'll be there to defend him and post some sense just like I've done with Doughty.
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Old 09-22-2008, 09:01 AM   #154
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Honestly I think it is nice we have two guys that we can use at SS that are both effective. Most teams would die for that.
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Old 09-22-2008, 12:29 PM   #155
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Doughty is not my boy, I just hate when people make stupid claims and blindly hate someone. I can't wait until the likes of you goes on a barrage of hate threads against Horton once he gets burned or makes a rookie mistake (Just like the wonderful people that flooded the anti-Campbell threads after week one). But don't worry, I'll be there to defend him and post some sense just like I've done with Doughty.
Who even said I was going to do that with Horton. I don't think you understand that Horton is a better player than Doughty period. Thats why I wouldn't get mad at Horton if he made 2,000 mistakes.
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Old 09-22-2008, 12:32 PM   #156
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Honestly I think it is nice we have two guys that we can use at SS that are both effective. Most teams would die for that.
I think that's a good point that's getting lost in this silly debate. Rather than picking sides let's just be happy that we have depth at the position. Horton appears to be a promising player, but I think Doughty will still play an important role.
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Old 09-22-2008, 12:36 PM   #157
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Re: Goodbye Doughty, Hello Horton!

Wasn't Doughty the guy who forced that fumble on Edgerrin James? When I saw that, I thought about this thread immediately.
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Old 09-22-2008, 12:39 PM   #158
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Wasn't Doughty the guy who forced that fumble on Edgerrin James? When I saw that, I thought about this thread immediately.
I had thought the same thing. BALLHAWK! ... But I believe it was McIntosh that caused that fumble. At least that's who got credit for it.
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Old 09-22-2008, 12:40 PM   #159
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You are correct in regards to Doughty, but what have you seen from Horton in his first three games that makes you so sure he is not a potential pro bowler? All I've seen is Horton putting himself in position to make plays, and a natural ability to be around the ball, often.
Ok, Horton had a good game last week but saying he has a natural ability to be around the ball from that one game is a stretch. One ball was batted up and he happened to be in the area were it came down and the fumble sat on the ground waiting for anyone to hope on the ball for an easy recovery. I cannot remeber the third but I think it was an over thrown ball which hit him right in the arms. I'm not complaining he deserved all the praise but I'm not read to call him a turn over machine just yet.
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Old 09-22-2008, 12:43 PM   #160
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Honestly I think it is nice we have two guys that we can use at SS that are both effective. Most teams would die for that.
good call man. whose to say horton would not have given up a big pass play when going against the likes of boldin and fitzgerald or that zona would not have heavily targeted him if he was starting.

doughty is our weakest link on D but thats more a testament to our solid group and not a knock on him. doughty is serviceable to solid, decent to good. i see the horton/doughty discussion much like heyer/jansen; all are solid and pretty much interchangeable right now which is a good thing, especially yesterday when heyer went down for alil and jansen stepped in and we didnt miss a beat.

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Old 09-24-2008, 01:13 PM   #161
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Honestly I think it is nice we have two guys that we can use at SS that are both effective. Most teams would die for that.
Is Doughty the only player in the league to get beat by Fitzgerald? I'm glad we have these guys.
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Old 09-25-2008, 09:13 AM   #162
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I did not have internet on Sunday and I wondered if there was going to be talk of Doughty getting burned deep. It was painful to watch, his angle was all wrong.
I think it is time to make the change to Horton. Horton has earned the starting role by his play on the field this preseason and last weeks game. Another thing to keep in mind, Doughty has not set the world on fire in order to keep the starter position either. Everyone likes Doughty, he looks like my frat brother, but that is not reason to keep him as the starter when Horton has been playing noticeably better.Horton has earned the starteps role and Doughty has not.
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Old 09-25-2008, 09:22 AM   #163
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Horton's time will come, in the meantime I think Doughty is still an important part of the D. I think people are so caught up in the Horton hype, and are so down on Doughty no matter what he does, that every mistake Doughty makes is magnified. Chill with the Doughty hate.
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