Redskins vs. Cardinals predictions

CRedskinsRule · 09-18-2008, 11:17 PM

It's one thing when we get no respect from national media outlets, you kind of expect that, but for the few Skins fans here that are saying how the Cardinals are going to give us a run, (of course anything can happen, but we are talking expectations based on reality not fluky events) I can't understand it. I think when the season gets where teams really can be evaluated for this season's play, the loss to the Giants is going to be looked at in the same light the Eagles/Cowboys game is already...
A battle of NFC EAST power. Eagles Cowboys was an offensive show, and the Skins/Giants a defensive one.

I just won't believe that any team outside our division will come close to the Skins(maybe Pittsburgh we will see on that one) . We held the Saints vaunted offense to a pitiful first half, yes our offense didn't capitalize right away but we all have said this year that the D has to hold the fort first so the offense can find a rhythm and that is what happened. My one concern is that we weren't playing against there first string D in the 4th qtr, and so this Arizona game holds alot of interest to see how the offense can carry it's lessons forward. The team answered the call last week, and they will do it again this week, and this time there won't be a doubt of which was the better team. My prediction was 24-17 Skins which is close, but i dont think the statistics will be close, the Cards will just hit one or two lucky strikes.

i guess this rambled a bit, point is Skins are going to demonstrate they are for real this week!

GTripp0012 · 09-18-2008, 11:19 PM

73-2. Wow.

If the Redskins lose this game to a team that's just as good if not better than the Skins, it's going to be fire Zorn, fire Campbell, cut Moss, demote Portis threads galore.

dall-assblows · 09-18-2008, 11:28 PM

ive said it before an ill say it a again.

3-2 redskins

GMScud · 09-18-2008, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

73-2. Wow.

If the Redskins lose this game to a team that's just as good if not better than the Skins, it's going to be fire Zorn, fire Campbell, cut Moss, demote Portis threads galore.

Could you PLEASE elaborate to help assuage the annoyance I'm dealing with from some of the blind homers on this thread? I tried, but only BDBohnzie wants to listen.

GTripp0012 · 09-19-2008, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMScud

Could you PLEASE elaborate to help assuage the annoyance I'm dealing with from some of the blind homers on this thread? I tried, but only BDBohnzie wants to listen.

I don't have much else to say. This is a "pick-em" game. You definately expect a Skins bias here, as there rightfully should be, but only 70% of us thought we would beat the Giants.

Remember all the threads here when we lost by nine points?

If we win this game, people will think they know something. If we lose it, we'll all start scapegoating people for losing to the Cardinals when we should be looking ourselves in the mirror for underestimating the opponent.

I'm optimistic that we'll come out on top, but I'm not particularly confident in that. If we don't continue to improve over last week, we lose, plain and simple.

SkinzzFan · 09-19-2008, 06:28 AM

Warner could hurt us if he has time. With that said, I don't think he'll have much time at all with Taylor and Carter. I keep hearing how "improved" the Cards D is this year. My reaction to that is 1.) look at who they've played so far and 2.) of course their D is improved. They haven't exactly been a powerhouse over the last say...80+ years (or however old they are). ANYTHING is an improvement!

My prediction? PAIN! (Clubber Lang, Rocky III).

Skins 31
Cards 21

djnemo65 · 09-19-2008, 06:57 AM

30-21 Skins

rypper11 · 09-19-2008, 08:49 AM

Reality check:

We are 3 point favorites at home. Traditionally home field advantage is 3 points so the oddsmakers expect this to be a pick 'em.

Kurt Warner is one of the most accurate passers of all time (a 7-time offensive player of the week including last week and 2-time MVP). Fitzgerald and Boldin are two of the best wr's in the league right now (both have scored from over 75 yards). Not to mention they also have very inventive playcalling and a good O-Line.They have a young but very talented defense (Alan Branch, Calais Campbell who I still wish we would have drafted, Karlos Dansby, Bertrand Berry, Travis LaBoy, Darnell Dockett, etc..) They took huge strides last year and they will probably win the West this season (for what that's worth, it's a pretty week division).
This is not the Cardinals of old and they will not be an easy win. I think the Skins will win but not by much. This is one of those weeks we need a Gibbs speech about how "this is a tough opponent and we need to really play our guts out."
BTW, did anybody else notice that not only are Russ Grimm and Ken Wisenhut on the Cards staff, but their QB coach is Jeff Rutledge?

skinsguy · 09-19-2008, 09:57 AM

Redskins --- 465
Cards ------ 17

The 17 points for the cards comes in garbage time.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 09-19-2008, 09:59 AM

Redskins 41 Cards 0

CRedskinsRule · 09-19-2008, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rypper11

Reality check:

We are 3 point favorites at home. Traditionally home field advantage is 3 points so the oddsmakers expect this to be a pick 'em.

Kurt Warner is one of the most accurate passers of all time (a 7-time offensive player of the week including last week and 2-time MVP). Fitzgerald and Boldin are two of the best wr's in the league right now (both have scored from over 75 yards). Not to mention they also have very inventive playcalling and a good O-Line.They have a young but very talented defense (Alan Branch, Calais Campbell who I still wish we would have drafted, Karlos Dansby, Bertrand Berry, Travis LaBoy, Darnell Dockett, etc..) They took huge strides last year and they will probably win the West this season (for what that's worth, it's a pretty week division).
This is not the Cardinals of old and they will not be an easy win. I think the Skins will win but not by much. This is one of those weeks we need a Gibbs speech about how "this is a tough opponent and we need to really play our guts out."
BTW, did anybody else notice that not only are Russ Grimm and Ken Wisenhut on the Cards staff, but their QB coach is Jeff Rutledge?

HUH???? IF the oddsmakers expected this to be a PICK' em, they would have put the odds at ....... PICK' EM

Are you saying that every home favorite that is at less then 3pts is the underdog???? I must have missed the new math lesson that day.

Further, I believe Fedex to be a better than average home field, so from now on, I guess if we are favored by 5 at home, it is really a pick' em game. and in the playoff home games, when the stadium is rocking, we must be underdogs if we aren't favored by 10.

bigSkinsfan61 · 09-19-2008, 10:26 AM

skins 31-cardinals 24 curt warner will def not have the luxury he's had the last 2 games of having all day to pick apart our defense...will be close till late 3rd quarter...

BDBohnzie · 09-19-2008, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I'm optimistic that we'll come out on top, but I'm not particularly confident in that. If we don't continue to improve over last week, we lose, plain and simple.

A very simple concept. I hate the fact that I have to sit here and defend my thoughts and decisions merely because I'm not being a homer. The Cardinals are not as bad as some would like to think, and I also think the Redskins aren't as good as some would like to think. My heart wants to say that the Skins will roll on all cylinders, and that they'll stomp a big old mudhole in the Cards. But my head knows that the Cards are a good football team, and there are several factors they have in their favor.

I'd also like to point out that I did pick the Redskins to win...see Post #16 (Redskins vs. Cardinals predictions)...something I haven't done the last 2 weeks.

If I'm wrong, so be it...but I'm going to be honest before I'm a homer, plain and simple. So call me what you want, but I've bled burgundy and gold for almost 30 years of my existence, have been through the ups and downs, and will continue to do so for the next 30, 40, 50+ years. But I'm not going to be dishonest with myself either.

BDBohnzie · 09-19-2008, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

HUH???? IF the oddsmakers expected this to be a PICK' em, they would have put the odds at ....... PICK' EM

Are you saying that every home favorite that is at less then 3pts is the underdog???? I must have missed the new math lesson that day.

Further, I believe Fedex to be a better than average home field, so from now on, I guess if we are favored by 5 at home, it is really a pick' em game. and in the playoff home games, when the stadium is rocking, we must be underdogs if we aren't favored by 10.

It's pretty well-known that when the oddsmakers are setting the odds for each game, one of the things they automatically do is give the home team -3 off the bat for the home field advantage. -3 isn't necessarily a PICK EM game, but what it means is that besides the home field, the oddsmakers are looking at this game as very even keeled game. No distinct advantage for either team, besides the home field.

CRedskinsRule · 09-19-2008, 10:50 AM

I do understand the concept of home teams getting a bump, but to turn around and say that therefore it is a pick'em game is wrong. and as for defending not being a homer, we have all watched the past 17 years of Skins not living up to hopes and expectations, but homerism is picking the 1-10 dolphins to beat the 11 -0 patriots because you are a dolphin fan (i might have the stats wrong but just an example) but saying that a team that really outplayed a vaunted offense and played the superbowl champs close, if ugly, will soundly beat a team that beat 2 teams likely to have losing records, is not, in my opinion the same type of homerism. but hey, i am a homer so i guess my opinion is null and void.

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09-18-2008, 11:17 PM	#61
CRedskinsRule MVP Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Pasadena, Md Age: 45 Posts: 10,907	Re: Redskins vs. Cardinals predictions It's one thing when we get no respect from national media outlets, you kind of expect that, but for the few Skins fans here that are saying how the Cardinals are going to give us a run, (of course anything can happen, but we are talking expectations based on reality not fluky events) I can't understand it. I think when the season gets where teams really can be evaluated for this season's play, the loss to the Giants is going to be looked at in the same light the Eagles/Cowboys game is already... A battle of NFC EAST power. Eagles Cowboys was an offensive show, and the Skins/Giants a defensive one. I just won't believe that any team outside our division will come close to the Skins(maybe Pittsburgh we will see on that one) . We held the Saints vaunted offense to a pitiful first half, yes our offense didn't capitalize right away but we all have said this year that the D has to hold the fort first so the offense can find a rhythm and that is what happened. My one concern is that we weren't playing against there first string D in the 4th qtr, and so this Arizona game holds alot of interest to see how the offense can carry it's lessons forward. The team answered the call last week, and they will do it again this week, and this time there won't be a doubt of which was the better team. My prediction was 24-17 Skins which is close, but i dont think the statistics will be close, the Cards will just hit one or two lucky strikes. i guess this rambled a bit, point is Skins are going to demonstrate they are for real this week! Last edited by CRedskinsRule; 09-18-2008 at 11:20 PM. Reason: grammer

09-18-2008, 11:19 PM	#62
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Age: 25 Posts: 15,143	Re: Redskins vs. Cardinals predictions 73-2. Wow. If the Redskins lose this game to a team that's just as good if not better than the Skins, it's going to be fire Zorn, fire Campbell, cut Moss, demote Portis threads galore. __________________ Shanahan: “The bad thing is he's [Sav Rocca] probably our best offensive weapon and that’s not good.”

09-18-2008, 11:28 PM	#63
dall-assblows The Starter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: round the way Age: 30 Posts: 2,211	Re: Redskins vs. Cardinals predictions ive said it before an ill say it a again. 3-2 redskins __________________ SOMEBODY PINCH ME

09-19-2008, 06:28 AM	#66
SkinzzFan Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Washington DC Posts: 244	Re: Redskins vs. Cardinals predictions Warner could hurt us if he has time. With that said, I don't think he'll have much time at all with Taylor and Carter. I keep hearing how "improved" the Cards D is this year. My reaction to that is 1.) look at who they've played so far and 2.) of course their D is improved. They haven't exactly been a powerhouse over the last say...80+ years (or however old they are). ANYTHING is an improvement! My prediction? PAIN! (Clubber Lang, Rocky III). Skins 31 Cards 21 __________________ "Baseball is what we were, football is what we have become"

09-19-2008, 06:57 AM	#67
djnemo65 Playmaker Join Date: May 2004 Location: MA Age: 32 Posts: 2,836	Re: Redskins vs. Cardinals predictions 30-21 Skins

09-19-2008, 08:49 AM	#68
rypper11 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Winston Salem, NC Posts: 1,217	Re: Redskins vs. Cardinals predictions Reality check: We are 3 point favorites at home. Traditionally home field advantage is 3 points so the oddsmakers expect this to be a pick 'em. Kurt Warner is one of the most accurate passers of all time (a 7-time offensive player of the week including last week and 2-time MVP). Fitzgerald and Boldin are two of the best wr's in the league right now (both have scored from over 75 yards). Not to mention they also have very inventive playcalling and a good O-Line.They have a young but very talented defense (Alan Branch, Calais Campbell who I still wish we would have drafted, Karlos Dansby, Bertrand Berry, Travis LaBoy, Darnell Dockett, etc..) They took huge strides last year and they will probably win the West this season (for what that's worth, it's a pretty week division). This is not the Cardinals of old and they will not be an easy win. I think the Skins will win but not by much. This is one of those weeks we need a Gibbs speech about how "this is a tough opponent and we need to really play our guts out." BTW, did anybody else notice that not only are Russ Grimm and Ken Wisenhut on the Cards staff, but their QB coach is Jeff Rutledge? __________________ Playing a kids game for a kings ransom.

09-19-2008, 09:57 AM	#69
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 5,999	Re: Redskins vs. Cardinals predictions Redskins --- 465 Cards ------ 17 The 17 points for the cards comes in garbage time. __________________ Not the same Skinsguy that posts on ES.

09-19-2008, 09:59 AM	#70
EARTHQUAKE2689 You did WHAT?!? Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna. Age: 24 Posts: 11,008	Re: Redskins vs. Cardinals predictions Redskins 41 Cards 0 __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpp3ycMvQd0 This is why you need Mentos. To justify your questionable problem solving skills. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7geP5ev0VI Awesome isn't it.

09-19-2008, 10:26 AM	#72
bigSkinsfan61 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: richmond va Age: 51 Posts: 250	Re: Redskins vs. Cardinals predictions skins 31-cardinals 24 curt warner will def not have the luxury he's had the last 2 games of having all day to pick apart our defense...will be close till late 3rd quarter... __________________ I will choose freewill. alex, geddy, and neil permanent waves 1980"www.rush.com

09-19-2008, 10:50 AM	#75
CRedskinsRule MVP Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Pasadena, Md Age: 45 Posts: 10,907	Re: Redskins vs. Cardinals predictions I do understand the concept of home teams getting a bump, but to turn around and say that therefore it is a pick'em game is wrong. and as for defending not being a homer, we have all watched the past 17 years of Skins not living up to hopes and expectations, but homerism is picking the 1-10 dolphins to beat the 11 -0 patriots because you are a dolphin fan (i might have the stats wrong but just an example) but saying that a team that really outplayed a vaunted offense and played the superbowl champs close, if ugly, will soundly beat a team that beat 2 teams likely to have losing records, is not, in my opinion the same type of homerism. but hey, i am a homer so i guess my opinion is null and void.

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