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Old 08-31-2004, 03:10 PM   #16
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Very well put I fully agree with you.

Eelch please don't tell me to keep it on the QT. This is reality man and it is in fact only a $100.00 fine in the state of MD. So I don't think we have to worry about the cuffs. I also don't think it is right to make assumptions on peoples lives like Mr. Irvin. He did get busted in the past but it is unfair for us to judge what we don't know. Stick to disagreeing with his picks and not making judgments where you have no factual knowledge. Who would be your picks for top 3 recievers? Or maybe just pick the 3 biggest egos in football
QT, the "reality" of it is that he was/is a habitual crack/coke user and has been busted on more than one occassion. Once a user always an abuser, especially for that idiot. I don't know if he is a user now, but just like an alcoholic, they are always an alcoholic and are never cured of the disease. This is my opinion, and I am entitled to think that drugs cause him to say stupid garbage at times...that is my constitutional right.

1. Largent
2. Monk
3. Rice
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Old 08-31-2004, 03:15 PM   #17
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By the way... here's my list of all time WRs:
Jerry Rice
Art Monk
Steve Largent

And my list of all time egos:
Deion Sanders
Jeff George
Michael Irving
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Old 08-31-2004, 03:43 PM   #18
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QT, the "reality" of it is that he was/is a habitual crack/coke user and has been busted on more than one occassion. Once a user always an abuser, especially for that idiot. I don't know if he is a user now, but just like an alcoholic, they are always an alcoholic and are never cured of the disease. This is my opinion, and I am entitled to think that drugs cause him to say stupid garbage at times...that is my constitutional right.

1. Largent
2. Monk
3. Rice
OK

But can you guys in Florida at least correctly punch your ballots this year. Its my constitutional right to make sure all votes are counted.
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Old 08-31-2004, 03:46 PM   #19
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Or can they at least be counted correctly this time around?

Something tells me Florida is going to be a mess again this Nov.
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Old 08-31-2004, 03:48 PM   #20
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CRT3: I am very sorry to hear about your wife and pray that she gets better very soon. I think and hope that everybody else here wishes the same regardless of their opinion of medicinal marijuana.

Drift Reality: Lynn Swann #2? You'll have to explain that one to me. I'm too young to remember his career but his stats don't impress me enough to be number 2. Is it because of his big game performances?

JBCJR14: Jerry Rice #3? That's something you don't see too often. Why not #1?

My top 3:

Rice
Largent
Harrison

also receiving votes: Carter, Lofton
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Rice has gotta be #1 on any list talking about the top WR's, and even the top players of all-time regardless of position.
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Old 08-31-2004, 04:43 PM   #22
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Actually, I've just seen footage of Lynn Swann on old NFL films and read about how smooth a route-runner he was. Also, the four super bowls are big (although he played a pivotal role in only 2/4 I think)

Stats-wise, it's really tough to compare today's receivers to those of even twenty years ago. The vertical passing game didn't really start picking up until the early 80s due to the offensive sets of guys like Walsh and Coryell.

Furthermore, the Steelers really emphasized the run/defense mindset so it wasn't easy for Swann to get the electric stats that you saw out of guys like Rice.

Despite all that, I think there was just something really impressive about the way he played. Now that I think back on it though, I think it was a bad decision to place him in the top three. Maybe top 10 would have been more appropriate.

That being said, in some ways I think we really need to wait a while before we start putting guys like Reed, Harrison, or Brown into the category of greatest ever. I think it takes time for people to realize how a player fits into an era. Did the era define him; or did he define the era (such is the case for Jerry Rice).
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Nice post. Solid explanation. I debated whether or not to put Harrison in my top 3 because of what you're saying. The guy is basically in the prime of his career and with these new rules his numbers could skyrocket to unbelievable heights

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Actually, I've just seen footage of Lynn Swann on old NFL films and read about how smooth a route-runner he was. Also, the four super bowls are big (although he played a pivotal role in only 2/4 I think)

Stats-wise, it's really tough to compare today's receivers to those of even twenty years ago. The vertical passing game didn't really start picking up until the early 80s due to the offensive sets of guys like Walsh and Coryell.

Furthermore, the Steelers really emphasized the run/defense mindset so it wasn't easy for Swann to get the electric stats that you saw out of guys like Rice.

Despite all that, I think there was just something really impressive about the way he played. Now that I think back on it though, I think it was a bad decision to place him in the top three. Maybe top 10 would have been more appropriate.

That being said, in some ways I think we really need to wait a while before we start putting guys like Reed, Harrison, or Brown into the category of greatest ever. I think it takes time for people to realize how a player fits into an era. Did the era define him; or did he define the era (such is the case for Jerry Rice).
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CRT3: I am very sorry to hear about your wife and pray that she gets better very soon. I think and hope that everybody else here wishes the same regardless of their opinion of medicinal marijuana.

Drift Reality: Lynn Swann #2? You'll have to explain that one to me. I'm too young to remember his career but his stats don't impress me enough to be number 2. Is it because of his big game performances?

JBCJR14: Jerry Rice #3? That's something you don't see too often. Why not #1?

My top 3:

Rice
Largent
Harrison

also receiving votes: Carter, Lofton
Ah yes...not alot of logic in that one other than Largeant is the great white hope, not too mention that I just did three lines of smack before I wrote the post. But hey, drugs don't alter my judgement.
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Old 08-31-2004, 05:19 PM   #25
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Actually, I've just seen footage of Lynn Swann on old NFL films and read about how smooth a route-runner he was. Also, the four super bowls are big (although he played a pivotal role in only 2/4 I think)

Stats-wise, it's really tough to compare today's receivers to those of even twenty years ago. The vertical passing game didn't really start picking up until the early 80s due to the offensive sets of guys like Walsh and Coryell.

Furthermore, the Steelers really emphasized the run/defense mindset so it wasn't easy for Swann to get the electric stats that you saw out of guys like Rice.

Despite all that, I think there was just something really impressive about the way he played. Now that I think back on it though, I think it was a bad decision to place him in the top three. Maybe top 10 would have been more appropriate.

That being said, in some ways I think we really need to wait a while before we start putting guys like Reed, Harrison, or Brown into the category of greatest ever. I think it takes time for people to realize how a player fits into an era. Did the era define him; or did he define the era (such is the case for Jerry Rice).
Not to be a nit-picker, but Coryell and Walsh were polar opposites with their passing game philosophies. Coryell favored the vertical, downfield passing while Walsh was known for short passes, hitches, slants, what have you. That's the staple of the "West Coast" offense. Gibbs, Ernie Zampese, Norv Turner, and Mike Martz are all students of the "Air Coryell" offense.

Otherwise, your points are well taken.
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Old 09-02-2004, 06:51 PM   #26
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Darrell Green was interviewed about Irvin, when Irvin was in prime, and Darrell told how Irvin PUSHED OFF illegally......Guess Irvin doesn't remember what REALLY happened or he wouldn't have chosen himself .
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Old 09-02-2004, 10:00 PM   #27
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Irvin's not the only WR to push off. He's was just good enough at it not to get caught.

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Darrell Green was interviewed about Irvin, when Irvin was in prime, and Darrell told how Irvin PUSHED OFF illegally......Guess Irvin doesn't remember what REALLY happened or he wouldn't have chosen himself .
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