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Old 09-22-2008, 10:33 PM   #16
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Anyone bored, lol? I am a bit too lazy to look at it..
Wow, thanks for the link, but my eyes are too tired for all that legalese-type talk right now.
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:39 PM   #17
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Wow, yeah I didn't catch that before. Contact looked awfully early. I also think Leigh Torrence was lucky not to get a PI on the ball that hit him in the head and landed in Carlos' hands. Oh, and that delay of game called on Arizona with 1 second on the playclock that negated a TD...

whew... I guess we can't whine about officiating for a while.
I think this was a good no call. The ball was clearly under thrown and the defender has as much rite to the ball as the receiver. No PI
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:45 PM   #18
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I think we need JoeRedskins help! I looked at the rule book and the play and the rule book and the play. Good thing I 'm not a lawyer!!!
personally, none of the Cards were screaming(not even Warner) so it was probably ok
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:46 PM   #19
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I agree. I'm not so sure that the ball was catchable. But, I think it's hard to say from that angle.
As for Leigh Torrence, he clearly had position to make the catch. PI isn't really all that debatable on that play:
Actions that do not constitute pass interference include but are not limited to:
e) Contact by a defender who has gained position on a receiver in an attempt to catch the ball.

Good call. Right you are. Or right the officials were I guess.
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:49 PM   #20
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I think we need JoeRedskins help! I looked at the rule book and the play and the rule book and the play. Good thing I 'm not a lawyer!!!
personally, none of the Cards were screaming(not even Warner) so it was probably ok
The Cards fans sitting around me were going crazy and us Skins fans were hella quiet. At the game and looking at the replay it just looks ify to me.
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:52 PM   #21
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ok, wish i coulda been there being silent, anyway, i was just talking about the player that was popped. he just got up and went on with it, at least in the video. either way, glad it went our way.
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Old 09-22-2008, 11:14 PM   #22
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Re: Did we get lucky not to be called for PI?

By rule, neither play was PI. Torrence was in perfect position (for a change) and has every right to go for the ball. Look at Fletcher's play at the end in slow motion, the Cardinal tripped over his own feet.
As for the Cards delay of game, there is no way to tell. I don't know of an angle that shows the snap that has a playclock in it too. I do believe that most of the D stopped while the official was running in before the ball was snapped so the play wouldn't have gone for a TD anyway.
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By rule, neither play was PI. Torrence was in perfect position (for a change) and has every right to go for the ball. Look at Fletcher's play at the end in slow motion, the Cardinal tripped over his own feet.
As for the Cards delay of game, there is no way to tell. I don't know of an angle that shows the snap that has a playclock in it too. I do believe that most of the D stopped while the official was running in before the ball was snapped so the play wouldn't have gone for a TD anyway.
I've seen the play about 20 times in all kinds of mos and he didn't trip over his own feet. Fletch hit him first then he fell, which looks like a trip.
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Old 09-23-2008, 12:33 AM   #24
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Yeah he got there early but on the same token I think they called Los for PI on a crucial 3rd down for them and from what I saw on that replay it was a complete BS call. Point is, they had a few go they're way too.
Absolutely. I think they got pretty lucky too. Like on that BS call against Heyer. We have a TD called back on a foul that had nothing to do with the play itself.
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Old 09-23-2008, 08:43 AM   #25
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That crew was awful on Sunday. I really thought they were poor. How many OPIs get called a year? Like 10? And Thomas gets flagged for 2? I know they ok calls but OPIs have to be pretty egregious. I just thought they were bad. Way too many flags.
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Old 09-23-2008, 08:46 AM   #26
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I guess Fletcher could have been called but honestly who cares. If you go over any game with a fine tooth comb you'll find dozens of non calls and plenty of blown calls every Sunday.
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Old 09-23-2008, 08:50 AM   #27
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Torrences play was completely legal and hella coverage. I'm not sure if it was the same play or nor, but once yesterday there was a pass toward the flats that was tipped at the line and one of our LBs flattened the back before the ball got there, which is legal. I can't watch the vid on my BB. We were batting balls like crazy too. Hella batting. Hella cool.
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Re: Did we get lucky not to be called for PI?

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Wow, yeah I didn't catch that before. Contact looked awfully early. I also think Leigh Torrence was lucky not to get a PI on the ball that hit him in the head and landed in Carlos' hands. Oh, and that delay of game called on Arizona with 1 second on the playclock that negated a TD...

whew... I guess we can't whine about officiating for a while.
I really have to disagree with you about both of these calls. I was sitting in the endzone that the Cards were headed towards on both of these plays and I feel like I had a pretty good angle.

I always pay way too much attention to the game clock when I'm at the games. From where I was sitting I could see the play clock just over the line of scrimmage and on the particular play that the refs flagged I was actually counting down the last 5 seconds out loud to my buddies. The ref blew the whistle right when the clock hit :00 as he should have. The Redskins pretty much all stopped when the whistle blew and thats why the guy from the cards could just walk into the endzone like he did.

As for the non-PI call on the Rogers INT I really thought that Torrence started to look back but the WR was already right behind him jumping for the ball so Torrence just sort of hopped up and poked it out. The other thing is that the play happened so far down field that if a ref had decided to throw a flag it would have only been because he was guessing that there was probably illegal contact. It was a good no call, IMO (as biased as I am).
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Old 09-23-2008, 09:18 AM   #29
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Re: Did we get lucky not to be called for PI?

To me it looked like Torrence was playing the ball so it was a good non-call.
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Old 09-23-2008, 09:42 AM   #30
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Re: Did we get lucky not to be called for PI?

Well if you looking at the rules does this mea that the Hyer (spelling) penalty should have benn assessed on the following kick off.
NFL Rules Digest: Penalty Enforced on Following Kickoff
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