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Old 09-23-2008, 09:46 AM   #31
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Re: Did we get lucky not to be called for PI?

I guess Fletcher could have been called but honestly who cares. If you go over any game with a fine tooth comb you'll find dozens of non calls and plenty of blown calls every Sunday.
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Old 09-23-2008, 09:50 AM   #32
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Re: Did we get lucky not to be called for PI?

Torrences play was completely legal and hella coverage. I'm not sure if it was the same play or nor, but once yesterday there was a pass toward the flats that was tipped at the line and one of our LBs flattened the back before the ball got there, which is legal. I can't watch the vid on my BB. We were batting balls like crazy too. Hella batting. Hella cool.
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Old 09-23-2008, 10:04 AM   #33
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Re: Did we get lucky not to be called for PI?

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Wow, yeah I didn't catch that before. Contact looked awfully early. I also think Leigh Torrence was lucky not to get a PI on the ball that hit him in the head and landed in Carlos' hands. Oh, and that delay of game called on Arizona with 1 second on the playclock that negated a TD...

whew... I guess we can't whine about officiating for a while.
I really have to disagree with you about both of these calls. I was sitting in the endzone that the Cards were headed towards on both of these plays and I feel like I had a pretty good angle.

I always pay way too much attention to the game clock when I'm at the games. From where I was sitting I could see the play clock just over the line of scrimmage and on the particular play that the refs flagged I was actually counting down the last 5 seconds out loud to my buddies. The ref blew the whistle right when the clock hit :00 as he should have. The Redskins pretty much all stopped when the whistle blew and thats why the guy from the cards could just walk into the endzone like he did.

As for the non-PI call on the Rogers INT I really thought that Torrence started to look back but the WR was already right behind him jumping for the ball so Torrence just sort of hopped up and poked it out. The other thing is that the play happened so far down field that if a ref had decided to throw a flag it would have only been because he was guessing that there was probably illegal contact. It was a good no call, IMO (as biased as I am).
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Old 09-23-2008, 10:18 AM   #34
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Re: Did we get lucky not to be called for PI?

To me it looked like Torrence was playing the ball so it was a good non-call.
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Old 09-23-2008, 10:42 AM   #35
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Re: Did we get lucky not to be called for PI?

Well if you looking at the rules does this mea that the Hyer (spelling) penalty should have benn assessed on the following kick off.
NFL Rules Digest: Penalty Enforced on Following Kickoff
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Old 09-23-2008, 01:54 PM   #36
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Re: Did we get lucky not to be called for PI?

How about the horseshit call on the D. Thomas touchdown, Or the pi that got them downfield for a score. I don't get this question. Is it like are we cheaters? should we have lost?
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Wow, yeah I didn't catch that before. Contact looked awfully early. I also think Leigh Torrence was lucky not to get a PI on the ball that hit him in the head and landed in Carlos' hands. Oh, and that delay of game called on Arizona with 1 second on the playclock that negated a TD...

whew... I guess we can't whine about officiating for a while.
Jesus who do you root for the Cards? We have plenty to whine about, We got jerkedoff on a terrible pi call that led to the giants only td, And how about Aaron glenn throwing Moss down by his head. And it goes on and on and on.
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It was within the first five yards of the line of scrimmage if that makes a difference. I think it does, but that was a heck of a hit.
thank you man. it was 3rd and 4 and fletch made contact about 2 yards past the line of scrimmage. not terribly hard to figure out . . .

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Old 09-23-2008, 02:23 PM   #39
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Re: Did we get lucky not to be called for PI?

I just went back and looked at it, it was a good call in my opinion, and im not just being biased. You can make contact with a receiver within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage, he didnt hit him more so went to cover the quick flat and simply ran into him.
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Well if you looking at the rules does this mea that the Hyer (spelling) penalty should have benn assessed on the following kick off.
NFL Rules Digest: Penalty Enforced on Following Kickoff
Thanks, that seems pretty clear!
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Old 09-23-2008, 08:41 PM   #41
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Re: Did we get lucky not to be called for PI?

Honestly, that was a call that could have gone either way. I guess that makes us lucky in a sense but you will always be up and down on PI calls. We'll get our share of bad ones this year. For the most severe penalty in football, it is a shame that PI is so subjectively and so inconsistently called. Personally, I would prefer a 15 yard penalty like in college over a spot foul but that is a topic for another thread I suppose.
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Old 09-24-2008, 11:10 PM   #42
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I'm watching Inside the NFL right now, and Jacksonville's game winning drive against Indy on Sunday was kept alive for an illegal contact penalty on a Colts LB against a Jax receiver inside 5 yards that was pretty damn similar to what London did.

Looking at that, I'd say we got lucky.
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^^^ yeah after my post i got to thinking "are you allowed contact within 5 yards after the ball is thrown" (answer is no) but GM scud i am pretty sure an illegal contact penalty (by nature = contact before ball is thrown or else it would be PI) has to be past 5 yards from the line of scrimage. i follow the rules pretty closely but this year it has been hard to figure out whats been called and why because of the lack of consistency.

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