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Old 09-22-2008, 09:56 PM   #1
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Did we get lucky not to be called for PI?

Not to be a debbie downer, but during the Cardinals last play it looked like Fletch ran into the Cards back in the flats. he clearly hit him before the ball got in the area, and being at the game I remember the crowd got really silent then.

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Old 09-22-2008, 10:03 PM   #2
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Re: Did we get lucky not to be called for PI?

Fair enough, but do you think it was PI?
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Wow, yeah I didn't catch that before. Contact looked awfully early. I also think Leigh Torrence was lucky not to get a PI on the ball that hit him in the head and landed in Carlos' hands. Oh, and that delay of game called on Arizona with 1 second on the playclock that negated a TD...

whew... I guess we can't whine about officiating for a while.
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Wow, yeah I didn't catch that before. Contact looked awfully early. I also think Leigh Torrence was lucky not to get a PI on the ball that hit him in the head and landed in Carlos' hands. Oh, and that delay of game called on Arizona with 1 second on the playclock that negated a TD...

whew... I guess we can't whine about officiating for a while.
Really? I felt it was was a good play, dont think he touched the WR, but I will go back and look at it.

But as for the play I posted, yeah I felt we really lucked out because if called the Cards get a first down and continue driving down the field.
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Not PI. The ball was terribly overthrown, they're not supposed to call pass interference if its a terrible ball
Really? Go back and look at it. The reason it looked overthrown was because Fletch knocked him over before it got there. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad there was no flag, but I think there should have been.
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Really? I felt it was was a good play, dont think he touched the WR, but I will go back and look at it.

But as for the play I posted, yeah I felt we really lucked out because if called the Cards get a first down and continue driving down the field.
Torrence definitely made some early contact, but nothing egregious. It could have been flagged for sure though.
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Re: Did we get lucky not to be called for PI?

GMScud, yeah im not too sure, seems like Fletch got a good hit before the pass. But I guess that's why im asking you all.
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Yeah he got there early but on the same token I think they called Los for PI on a crucial 3rd down for them and from what I saw on that replay it was a complete BS call. Point is, they had a few go they're way too.
Sure, and Devin Thomas really didn't push off compared to other receivers, but that doesnt change the fact we might have gotten a bit lucky it wasn't called because it seemed like an obvious call to me.
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Really? Go back and look at it. The reason it looked overthrown was because Fletch knocked him over before it got there. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad there was no flag, but I think there should have been.
It was within the first five yards of the line of scrimmage if that makes a difference. I think it does, but that was a heck of a hit.
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hmm, this and the heyer penalty, wow I really need to brush up on the NFL Rulebook because I have no idea.
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Yeah he got there early but on the same token I think they called Los for PI on a crucial 3rd down for them and from what I saw on that replay it was a complete BS call. Point is, they had a few go they're way too.
Not only did he get there early but it looked like he kinda just decked him before the ball got there. Granted it was within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage, but that couldn't have been legal.

Yeah, that PI on Carlos on that 3rd down was really ticky tack.
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It was within the first five yards of the line of scrimmage if that makes a difference. I think it does, but that was a heck of a hit.
It makes a difference as far as contact is concerned, but I think it just means you can jam a guy, not flat out deck a dude to the ground when the ball is on the way. I wish I had a copy of the rule book.
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It makes a difference as far as contact is concerned, but I think it just means you can jam a guy, not flat out deck a dude to the ground when the ball is on the way. I wish I had a copy of the rule book.
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They were saying on Comcast postgame live that that the league office had sent a letter to officials a week before stating to "keep the players safe". Still a lame ass call.
Thats bullshit, because the refs need to call the game by the book. If the comish wants to hand out punishment after the game, then so be it.
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Not PI. The ball was terribly overthrown, they're not supposed to call pass interference if its a terrible ball
I agree. I'm not so sure that the ball was catchable. But, I think it's hard to say from that angle.
As for Leigh Torrence, he clearly had position to make the catch. PI isn't really all that debatable on that play:

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