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Old 09-23-2008, 12:00 PM   #16
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Re: Jason Campbell: not too shabby, eh?

exactly, that is just the type of offense we run and I have no proble with it.
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Old 09-23-2008, 12:11 PM   #17
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If Campbell plays well this week and the Redskins beat Dallas, he would be elected U.S. president in the D.C. area.
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Old 09-23-2008, 12:13 PM   #18
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1) Staring down receivers. His head doesn't seem to move from one side of the field to the other. From what I see he throws pretty much where he starts looking most of the time.
The fact that Campbell stares down receivers is a bit overstated. He was doing it a bit in preseason, but I have a feeling that had a lot to do with his comfort level in the new offense. He seems to be moving through his progressions a lot more quickly now, which is reinforced by the fact that he's hit 7+ receivers in the last two games.

I also noticed at least a few plays last week where he used the stigma of "staring down receivers" to his advantage. A couple of times, Campbell did lock on to a receiver, and give a vicious pump fake to shift the DB's. Then he turned and delivered the ball to the other side of the field. It was impressive, since I don't recall seeing him use the pump fake so effectively.
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Old 09-23-2008, 12:17 PM   #19
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That's the WCO defined.
Defined to a point. At some point JC is going to have to start taking more changes downfield, especially against the top defenses.
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Old 09-23-2008, 12:27 PM   #20
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He's looked very good the past two weeks. I'm cautiously optimistic and I won't freak out if he has a bad game over the next two weeks.
Before the season is over he's going to have a few bad games. I hope people can keep that in mind and not toss him under the bus again as soon as he does have a bad one. Every QB struggles at times.
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Old 09-23-2008, 12:29 PM   #21
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Defined to a point. At some point JC is going to have to start taking more changes downfield, especially against the top defenses.
I agree. While the WCO is predicated on the short passing game, isn't the idea that you setup the deep passes with short passes? Either way, long sustained drives will win us most games, but sometimes you've gotta be able to let it rip, and not just against a depleted secondary's rookie back up cb.
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Old 09-23-2008, 12:33 PM   #22
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He's looked very good the past two weeks. I'm cautiously optimistic and I won't freak out if he has a bad game over the next two weeks.
My feelings exactly. I'm definitely tempering my optimism until I see it for more than two straight games. I love what I'm seeing the past couple of weeks, but lets not slurp him too much until we see it on the road against defenses a little tougher than Arizona and a New Orleans.

That said, weeks 2 and 3 were a great warm up for two brutal road games upcoming. He definitely has all the tools, and he's obviously putting it together.

It will be interesting to see how many people jump right back off his bandwagon if we struggle the next two games.
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Old 09-23-2008, 12:34 PM   #23
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Before the season is over he's going to have a few bad games. I hope people can keep that in mind and not toss him under the bus again as soon as he does have a bad one. Every QB struggles at times.
i definately agree... gotta keep behind the qb at all times... We sure as shit cant have the attitude that people had with brunell... but i doubt we'll run into any issue like that. Everyone loves the man.
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Old 09-23-2008, 12:41 PM   #24
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Was there ever any doubt?:cool-smil
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Old 09-23-2008, 12:49 PM   #25
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I think the main point is that now teams are respecting our passing game as a legitimate big play threat. This is the fourth year in a row that our passing game has been above average, and the last time it wasn't (2004) seems like forever ago. But the argument against that has always been that the passing game itself was successful, but only because opponents really didn't respect it's downfield ability. Thus, our offense was being hurt in other ways, such as the running game (8 in the box, run blitzes, etc.).

But now, it appears that Dallas has to plan for the downfield passing game. So instead of offensive balance falling on Jason Campbell's shoulders, like it has the past 2 years, the concept of offensive balance has to fall on Portis and the running game. Portis didn't produce big gashing runs last year, and certainly there were a litany of legit excuses (he's hurt, the OL is decimated, the run blocking schemes don't work, the vertical passing game is non-existant, etc.). But he's healthy now and the OL is pretty healthy, we're doing a lot of zone running, and we have a nice vertical passing game. If Portis doesn't start breaking off long runs under these conditions, I think we will have to accept the fact that he's no longer the speed back he was at the beginning of his career.

Which I feel is somewhat obvious, but maybe under these conditions, I'll be proven wrong.
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Randle el dancing around too much on PRs may be overstated. That doesn't mean its not true. I'm not sure that he stares down receivers. I notice that when I watch his eyes and head on his passes they rarely face the other side of the field opposite his throws.

I say this because I was paying attention to rothlisburger and romo this week and their heads scan with their eyes a lot as if their dropping back and saying' "noooo".

As far as hitting multiple receivers, that may or may not be evidence of seeing the entire field. It may be that sellers is the primary or secondary look on the play, or yoder, or randle el, etc. It seems like when he scans he takes a bit too long.

Its something I think he's improving in but not good at yet in this system. I have been impressed, though overall.
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Old 09-23-2008, 01:50 PM   #27
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Randle el dancing around too much on PRs may be overstated. That doesn't mean its not true. I'm not sure that he stares down receivers. I notice that when I watch his eyes and head on his passes they rarely face the other side of the field opposite his throws.

I say this because I was paying attention to rothlisburger and romo this week and their heads scan with their eyes a lot as if their dropping back and saying' "noooo".

As far as hitting multiple receivers, that may or may not be evidence of seeing the entire field. It may be that sellers is the primary or secondary look on the play, or yoder, or randle el, etc. It seems like when he scans he takes a bit too long.

Its something I think he's improving in but not good at yet in this system. I have been impressed, though overall.
I will say it took him foooorrreevvveeer to spot the wide open Devin Thomas on the "shoulda-been" TD.
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Old 09-23-2008, 02:54 PM   #28
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give credit where credit is due- while I wasn't a "booer" of JC, i certainly wasn't an overt supporter. I'm pleased to see him playing smart football.
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Old 09-23-2008, 03:11 PM   #29
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He's looked very good the past two weeks. I'm cautiously optimistic and I won't freak out if he has a bad game over the next two weeks.
Cautious optimism is appropriate here. He's going to have a bad game or two, but he's had 2 good ones in a row so we've seen a little bit of playmaking ability. That's the thing...there's alot of QB's in the league that if given optimum protection and some WR weapons, can hit an open guy. It's the QB that can make that throw under pressure, read a blitz find the open guy, or make adjustments on the fly that is an elite QB that can take his team to the next level. We've seen a little of that and that's whats so nice about the last couple games.

A win in Dallas would catapult him into a different level nationally. Let's hope.
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Old 09-23-2008, 04:48 PM   #30
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so far so good but we still have a ways to go yet but i like what i,m seeing thus far.. so from one jason to another keep it up and keep it going....
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