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Old 09-29-2008, 11:30 AM   #1
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Should Jansen stay in the starting lineup?

The running game was much more effective yesterday, and I didn't notice the difficulty in running to the right that we had with Heyer in there. Should big Jon keep the starting job?

I thought his benching was a bit premature, but I guess coming off his preseason struggles I can understand it to a degree.

To me Jansen is still a notch above Heyer and they should keep him in there. What are your thoughts?
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Old 09-29-2008, 11:34 AM   #2
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Re: Should Jansen stay in the starting lineup?

I noticed that our run game was markedly improved with Jansen yesterday. If we pick up that many yards per play on the ground with him in then we should keep him in.

Having that strong running game put us in control the entire game and then snuffed out their chances at the end.


If that was a product of Jansen, yes...if that was only chance then no.
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Old 09-29-2008, 11:37 AM   #3
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Re: Should Jansen stay in the starting lineup?

Jansen did a heck of a job. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Keep him on the field!
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Old 09-29-2008, 11:40 AM   #4
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Re: Should Jansen stay in the starting lineup?

Maybe we could just play both Heyer and Jansen, depending on our game-plan and/or match-ups each week?
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Old 09-29-2008, 11:47 AM   #5
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Re: Should Jansen stay in the starting lineup?

Wasn't the complaint that he was not pass blocking well enough and speed rushers were getting past him.....what happened yesterday? maybe I'm forgetting something but I believe the only what 2 sacks Dallas had was not his side...right? One was on our left guard Samuels and one was a stunt or spin move up the middle.

I feel like Ghetto though. See who we are playing and decide who starts but I also think we should be rotating them out just to throw the Defenses off. Don't change due to certain situations because it would tip off other teams, just rotate them willy nilly to throw the D off.
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Old 09-29-2008, 11:52 AM   #6
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Re: Should Jansen stay in the starting lineup?

I'm not so sure. He got pushed right back into JC on a couple of pass plays. His pass blocking just isn't there but he was so good in the run game. Perhaps we can put in Heyer on pass plays and Jansen on run downs. Think anyone would notice?
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Old 09-29-2008, 11:59 AM   #7
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Re: Should Jansen stay in the starting lineup?

i think its his pass protection that got him benched, which is more important than his run blocking skill. there are other ways to make holes if someone isn't as strong at run blocking on the line, but if you have a guy getting man handled in pass protection you have to constantly commit guys to help him opening up yourself to blitzes, and now with the moving pockets and things he's not adjusted well.

not actually making a case against him as i like him very much and hope he improves, just doesn't seem likely at this stage in his career.
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Old 09-29-2008, 12:00 PM   #8
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Re: Should Jansen stay in the starting lineup?

I still think Jansen is our best choice, I agree that the benching was premature. After having ridden the bench for the first 3 games I'm sure he's hungry to prove them wrong and as the season progresses and his conditioning improves, he will get better and prove that he still has it.
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Old 09-29-2008, 12:04 PM   #9
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Re: Should Jansen stay in the starting lineup?

I'd have to watch the game again but I really don't recall him having any major issues in pass pro, and considering the pass rushing talent the Cowboys have that's saying something. Even Samuels had his hands full yesterday.
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Old 09-29-2008, 12:14 PM   #10
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Re: Should Jansen stay in the starting lineup?

Jansen played a great game but I hate a guy losing his starting position due to injury. Of course Heyer thought he could go but the coaches made the decision to start Jansen anyway so maybe they feel Jansen gives us the best opportunity to win. I know the OLine needs cohesion to stay sharp but maybe keep Jansen in the starting lineup but let the whole second string (Reinhart, Geisinger, Fabini, & Heyer) get a series a game.
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Old 09-29-2008, 12:18 PM   #11
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Re: Should Jansen stay in the starting lineup?

Heyer seems to be a better pass blocker, while Jansen still seems to be an effective run blocker. Switching them in and out based on that would give too much away to opposing defenses, but maybe start Jansen, and bring Heyer in on two minute drills and other obvious passing situations.
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Old 09-29-2008, 12:29 PM   #12
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Re: Should Jansen stay in the starting lineup?

I'm guessing it will depend on Heyer's sprained shoulder, but either option at this point is a relatively good option. This is the kind of problems any NFL team would dream of. The Eagles have an incredible pass rush (17 sacks in the first 4 games, including 9 against Pittsburgh), so I'd give the nod to Heyer at that point.
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Re: Should Jansen stay in the starting lineup?

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Maybe we could just play both Heyer and Jansen, depending on our game-plan and/or match-ups each week?
- i completely agree, and i think thats what they did with dallas.
PS-it wasn't mistake free he had an uncalled false start. it wasn't a big play though
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Re: Should Jansen stay in the starting lineup?

My first inclination is HELL YES, leave him in as the run game was primo against a good D. I would like to see some highlights as well.
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Re: Should Jansen stay in the starting lineup?

JJ played the entire game.

You can't switch them in and out during a game, it's way too obvious.
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