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Old 10-02-2008, 01:39 PM   #16
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I think a HOF DE would make a team better. I would say if we keep winning let's make sure he's fairly healthy before we bring him back.

Even a less than 100% HOF DE would make this team better. In the Dal game, Wilson and Evans pretty much got manhandled. I think JT would have gotten a sack or two in the 2nd half.
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Old 10-02-2008, 01:42 PM   #17
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Plus hes been a little gimpy in every game so far
That's what I'm saying. We probably wouldn't be having this conversation if he was not injured and played all the games. Cause his impact would be felt. I believe that!
But since he has been "gimpy" pretty much since day one, and now side lined and not starting till who knows when. This discussion comes up.

When he's healed up and playing. Watch out! In mind----he was a solid pick-up for us.
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Old 10-02-2008, 01:53 PM   #18
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How did the Skins get screwed? They basically traded JT for a 2nd round draft pick who hasnt been drafted yet.
Right. But that player will be drafted. And he will in all likelyhood be contributing to the Dolphins long after J. Taylor is done contributing to us.
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Old 10-02-2008, 01:54 PM   #19
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Even a less than 100% HOF DE would make this team better. In the Dal game, Wilson and Evans pretty much got manhandled. I think JT would have gotten a sack or two in the 2nd half.
They combined for 6 pressures, which is a greater number than Jason Taylor's three game total.

Although Andre Carter seems to be a much bigger factor when Taylor is rushing on the other side, I'll definitely give you guys that one.
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They combined for 6 pressures, which is a greater number than Jason Taylor's three game total.

Although Andre Carter seems to be a much bigger factor when Taylor is rushing on the other side, I'll definitely give you guys that one.
I'll say thus far, JT has looked like our most effective DE overall. From staying disciplined on screens, to batting down passes... he's definitely established himself as a solid DE here in D.C.

Do we need him? No... but does he improve our overall D? Absolutely. If he can stay healthy and continue his production, he's def. worth the number 2 IMO.
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Old 10-02-2008, 02:05 PM   #21
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Only if we want to improve our pass rush.
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Old 10-02-2008, 02:07 PM   #22
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One of the things that supporting the acquisition of Taylor was his remarkable bill of health, but given that he was 34 years old, the fact that he's hurt now for the first time in his career isn't all that surprising. If nothing else, this injury keeps us from overusing him as I believe the LDE by committee approach is generally more effective.

Jason Taylor, when healthy, is clearly our best option to bookend Andre Carter. But we got screwed in the trade for him, I think.
Even at age 34 it surprising that he did not totaly tear up his knee. There's a bunch of much younger players that would have been gone for allot longer if not the season. Dancing With The Stars got him limbered up.
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Speaking of Carter, did anyone else see him absolutely drill Romo last week? No further description of the play is necessary, either you saw it and remember it or you missed it.
He NAILED him !!!
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Right. But that player will be drafted. And he will in all likelyhood be contributing to the Dolphins long after J. Taylor is done contributing to us.
Assuming he makes the team than that could be the case. I have said in the past that the Skins give away draft picks like Santa Claus gives away Xmas presents (remember giving away those picks for TJ Duckett?). With that said this was the one time the Skins have given up a pick and I though they made the right move since JT is still fairly close to his prime.
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J Taylor Will Be Fresh When He Come Back. The 2nd Half Will Be The Time
To Judge This Trade. It Will Help A. Carter From Teams Doubling Him.
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Old 10-02-2008, 02:49 PM   #26
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They combined for 6 pressures, which is a greater number than Jason Taylor's three game total.

Although Andre Carter seems to be a much bigger factor when Taylor is rushing on the other side, I'll definitely give you guys that one.
W/out looking at stats, I watched the NFL Replay and it just looked like the were running upfield or being pushed upfield and taking swipes at the QB. They may have gotten a little pressure occasionally but look how many times Romo passed in that game. It didn't look like Dal's o line was sweatin Carters opposite side.
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As good as the D-Line has played without him, a healthy Taylor makes them that much better and more dangerous. It also takes some of the pressure off the secondary with a faster pass rush that makes QBs throw in haste.
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J Taylor Will Be Fresh When He Come Back. The 2nd Half Will Be The Time
To Judge This Trade. It Will Help A. Carter From Teams Doubling Him.
What??? Did Dexter Manely write this.
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Right. But that player will be drafted. And he will in all likelyhood be contributing to the Dolphins long after J. Taylor is done contributing to us.
I was very very against this trade. The 2nd rounder could turn out to be a stud. Or he could turn out to be a total bust. Time is going to tell if this was a good trade. If JT retires after this year it will be a bad trade. We need 2-3 years out of JT playing at a high level and it could turn out to be a good trade.
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Old 10-02-2008, 03:49 PM   #30
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I think a HOF DE would make a team better. I would say if we keep winning let's make sure he's fairly healthy before we bring him back.

Even a less than 100% HOF DE would make this team better. In the Dal game, Wilson and Evans pretty much got manhandled. I think JT would have gotten a sack or two in the 2nd half.
I think it's debatable if JT will be a HOF er or not. So far in the games he's played in I haven't seen a HOF player and that's all that really matters. Hopefully when he comes back he'll be 100% healthy.
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