Redskins Sign Shaun Alexander (Merge) updated

SBXVII · 10-14-2008, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mheisig

Like someone pointed out earlier, there have been knocks from coaches on Mason's "football intelligence" and his ability to grasp the playbook.

He did have the most yards out of all RBs in the preseason - he also got all those yards against 3rd and 4th string guys and scrubs.

Obviously the coaches see something they don't like or don't see something they think is necessary. Either way, they've spent way the hell more time evaluating him than any of us have.

Obviously something the coach's are seeing or not seeing that we don't, and I am biased about my oppinion. However, when you listen to RB talk they all say about the same thing. Portis seems to say/illude to it all the time and that is ...the RB just has to find the right hole. Mason did that in preseason. whether with scrubbs or not he always found the right hole and got yardage. Maybe he's dumber then a box of rocks, but he knows that plays, knows the calls, and has team chemistry. SA will have one wk to get into shape, learn the plays and the calls for the plays, and build chemistry. but if I'm right all he has to do is look for a hole.

How soon will SA go down with a knee or shoulder injury?

Paintrain · 10-14-2008, 10:11 AM

Alexander is good veteran depth with Betts out up to a month, gives us a proven body as a backup to Portis, he knows the offense and has MUCH better hands than Rock as the primary backup. No downside here.

Mattyk · 10-14-2008, 10:21 AM

I thought they were saying 2 weeks for Betts, now it's a month?

BDBohnzie · 10-14-2008, 10:28 AM

Alexander has a chip on his shoulder, and would provide ample depth if Betts is out for an extended period of time. And if it doesn't work out, the Skins can cut their losses and be done with it. If it does work out, the Skins would then have 4 backs who can shoulder the load if need be.

redsk1 · 10-14-2008, 10:43 AM

Didn't read all of the posts, but why not Rock for #2? Alexander may be brought in for a #3 anyway. Rock deserves a shot. When given the opportunity he was pretty good.

Alexander has been called soft by our own team. Marcus Washington in so many words called him that after taking him out of that playoff game a couple years ago. I don't think you want a guy like that on your team.

Mattyk · 10-14-2008, 10:55 AM

Rock is too valuable on teams I'm guessing. If he were to get hurt we'd be down a backup RB and our primary return man on kicks.

Redskins_P · 10-14-2008, 10:57 AM

I don't know how anyone can say that Mason is a "proven" runner. What has he proven? That he can run the ball in the PRESEASON against 2nd and 3rd stringers? Has he even touched the ball during the regular season?

SmootSmack · 10-14-2008, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Redskins_P

I don't know how anyone can say that Mason is a "proven" runner. What has he proven? That he can run the ball in the PRESEASON against 2nd and 3rd stringers? Has he even touched the ball during the regular season?

I think a new poll is in order.

Most overrated preseason Redskins running back:

Sultan McCullough
Marcus Mason

As for Rock, to Matty's point if he goes down we're down not only another running back but our primary kick returner (and keep in mind Betts is usually his main backup on kickoffs, if not Thrash).

As for Alexander, first there's no guarantee he'll be signed. Secondly, if he is what's the harm? He knows the system better than any other back on the team and is only going to be asked to spell Portis for a few plays (if even that).

SFREDSKIN · 10-14-2008, 11:06 AM

If you want to look at positives for signing Alexander here they are:

Hungry to prove he can still play
Great on screen passes
Knows coaching staff and most of the system
Cheap signing

hail_2_da_skins · 10-14-2008, 11:06 AM

This is a bad move. Shaun Alexander has been without a job for awhile and there is a reason why. He sucks. Every team in the NFL has passed on him because he is injury prone and does not run hard anymore. Whatever happened to Marcus Mason? He looked like a Clinton Portis clone in pre-season. The guy deserves a shot and Rock Cartwright deserves the opportunity to move up in the depth chart if Betts is unable to go. Let's not waste time, money or effort on a broke down back. The emphasis should be placed on getting a punter and a wide receiver if Malcolm Kelly is going the injured reserve.

Darrell_Green_28 · 10-14-2008, 11:25 AM

any updates on this and/or the punters?

Mattyk · 10-14-2008, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Redskins_P

I don't know how anyone can say that Mason is a "proven" runner. What has he proven? That he can run the ball in the PRESEASON against 2nd and 3rd stringers? Has he even touched the ball during the regular season?

I agree. There's a reason why he's sitting on someone's practice squad. He's just another training camp hero.

Stacks42 · 10-14-2008, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Rock is too valuable on teams I'm guessing. If he were to get hurt we'd be down a backup RB and our primary return man on kicks.

Yeah, if Rock gets hurt, we might have to have ARE back there returning kickoffs too. I'm not sure I could handle that

Mattyk · 10-14-2008, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think a new poll is in order.

Most overrated preseason Redskins running back:

Sultan McCullough
Marcus Mason

As for Rock, to Matty's point if he goes down we're down not only another running back but our primary kick returner (and keep in mind Betts is usually his main backup on kickoffs, if not Thrash).

As for Alexander, first there's no guarantee he'll be signed. Secondly, if he is what's the harm? He knows the system better than any other back on the team and is only going to be asked to spell Portis for a few plays (if even that).

No love for Jesse Lumsden? That guy was another August stud.

Monkeydad · 10-14-2008, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Why waste time with him when we have a proven player in Marcus Mason, even if it was during the pre-season.

Read that back to yourself.

It's not a bad move, since we don't know the extent of Betts' knee and it has been said on here that Cartwright fumbles at RB. We saw on Sunday what fumbles will do to a good team, even against a horrible team.

For an emergency or 3rd-string depth back or even just someone to let CP catch his breath, it's not a bad idea to pick up another RB if Betts will miss time or be limited.

His main issue in his final year was a broken hand that didn't allow him to hold onto the ball. It's been given PLENTY of time to heal. He could be a good change-of-pace back because of his size.

I'm OK with it. Not excited or care either way, since it's likely another T.J. Duckett-like insurance policy.

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10-14-2008, 10:11 AM	#47
Paintrain Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 42 Posts: 4,528	re: Redskins Sign Shaun Alexander (Merge) updated Alexander is good veteran depth with Betts out up to a month, gives us a proven body as a backup to Portis, he knows the offense and has MUCH better hands than Rock as the primary backup. No downside here. __________________ No Pressure-No Diamonds! Go Catch Your Dreams!

10-14-2008, 10:21 AM	#48
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,652	re: Redskins Sign Shaun Alexander (Merge) updated I thought they were saying 2 weeks for Betts, now it's a month? __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-14-2008, 10:28 AM	#49
BDBohnzie Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Frederick, MD Age: 34 Posts: 4,365	re: Redskins Sign Shaun Alexander (Merge) updated Alexander has a chip on his shoulder, and would provide ample depth if Betts is out for an extended period of time. And if it doesn't work out, the Skins can cut their losses and be done with it. If it does work out, the Skins would then have 4 backs who can shoulder the load if need be. __________________ Bad Things man, I mean bad things... “WE TOOK HIM IN THE SIXTH ROUND SO WE'RE NOT SMART EITHER.” - Shanny on what the Skins saw in Alfred Morris

10-14-2008, 10:43 AM	#50
redsk1 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,351	re: Redskins Sign Shaun Alexander (Merge) updated Didn't read all of the posts, but why not Rock for #2? Alexander may be brought in for a #3 anyway. Rock deserves a shot. When given the opportunity he was pretty good. Alexander has been called soft by our own team. Marcus Washington in so many words called him that after taking him out of that playoff game a couple years ago. I don't think you want a guy like that on your team.

10-14-2008, 10:55 AM	#51
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,652	re: Redskins Sign Shaun Alexander (Merge) updated Rock is too valuable on teams I'm guessing. If he were to get hurt we'd be down a backup RB and our primary return man on kicks. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-14-2008, 10:57 AM	#52
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Sterling, VA Age: 34 Posts: 4,065	re: Redskins Sign Shaun Alexander (Merge) updated I don't know how anyone can say that Mason is a "proven" runner. What has he proven? That he can run the ball in the PRESEASON against 2nd and 3rd stringers? Has he even touched the ball during the regular season?

10-14-2008, 11:06 AM	#54
SFREDSKIN Pro Bowl Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 6,501	re: Redskins Sign Shaun Alexander (Merge) updated If you want to look at positives for signing Alexander here they are: Hungry to prove he can still play Great on screen passes Knows coaching staff and most of the system Cheap signing __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

10-14-2008, 11:06 AM	#55
hail_2_da_skins Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 57 Posts: 862	re: Redskins Sign Shaun Alexander (Merge) updated This is a bad move. Shaun Alexander has been without a job for awhile and there is a reason why. He sucks. Every team in the NFL has passed on him because he is injury prone and does not run hard anymore. Whatever happened to Marcus Mason? He looked like a Clinton Portis clone in pre-season. The guy deserves a shot and Rock Cartwright deserves the opportunity to move up in the depth chart if Betts is unable to go. Let's not waste time, money or effort on a broke down back. The emphasis should be placed on getting a punter and a wide receiver if Malcolm Kelly is going the injured reserve. __________________ "HAIL TO THE SKINS"

10-14-2008, 11:25 AM	#56
Darrell_Green_28 The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Age: 44 Posts: 1,949	re: Redskins Sign Shaun Alexander (Merge) updated any updates on this and/or the punters? __________________ Light travels faster than sound. That's why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

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