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Old 10-15-2008, 06:52 AM   #76
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Re: Breaking News Roy Williams Traded to Dallas

I think there is justification on the Cowboys side, a first round pick for a pro bowl WR is good value but this still looks like a look at me trade .

Possibly one things that wasn't broken on that team was the passing game . The Run game with Barber as the feature back was always going to be in trouble if teams keyed on him , the defense is thin so boulstering a strength can some times be a smart thing .

Does it make them superbowl contenders .....not any more than they were a week ago . Someone still neads to get the ball to Williams or Owens . I think WR is a very over rated possition in the scheme of things . Look at the teams with the best WRs (Cincy, Indy and Arizona) and they have one SB between them . Balance is what it is all about . They had a great WR in Terry Glenn and that got them what exactly ?
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Old 10-15-2008, 07:01 AM   #77
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Re: Breaking News Roy Williams Traded to Dallas

roy is good, but not nearly in the league of moss, TO, or andre johnson (or plex, or those two guys in AZ), and going forward calvin johnson and edwards will be better...

he's a crazy #2 (but still not the best - see Q in AZ or harrison/wayne in indy), but if it's really a 1,3 and 6, it's too much for one year or multiple years with heaps of new money. plus, adding him to the TO-centric offense... well, maybe TO gets a bit jealous.
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Old 10-15-2008, 08:50 AM   #78
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Re: Breaking News Roy Williams Traded to Dallas

Well I was concerned about TO's reaction as well. But from all reports, the GM mentioned the trade to Owens as is was being done and Owens was (quote) "ECSTATIC".

Then when the deal was finalized, reporters spoke with Roy Williams and he said the first call he got was from TO. So we will see I guess.

But as far as the deal goes it was not really all that bad. Yeah 3 draft picks sounds like a lot. But believe it or not yesterday morning when the Cowboys were getting their breakfast, they had 10 total draft picks for the 2009 draft.

After the trade was done at the end of the day, Dallas had nine draft picks for the 2009 draft. They only gave up one draft pick.

Because of Pacman's suspension, the Cowboys received the Titans 5th round pick. That was s stipulation of the trade.

Dallas already had two-3rd round picks (Cleveland) and two-6th round picks (Miami, Jason Fergeson trade).

So Dallas sends their first, third and 6th rounder for Williams. Chances are the 3rd and 6th round picks from Cleveland and Miami are going to be higher anyway.

And Dallas got a 7th rounder from Detroit.
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Old 10-15-2008, 09:29 AM   #79
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Re: Breaking News Roy Williams Traded to Dallas

So seriously sandtrap, where have you been?
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So seriously sandtrap, where have you been?
They've lost 2 of their last 3. What else is there to say?
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Shit.

How the hell is any defense supposed to stop a tandem of T.O. and Roy Williams when you've got guys like Crayton, Austin and Witten still around?

We can mock it all we want, but I don't see how you can deny that this creates serious matchup problems for ANY defense.

Fortunately Romo and Felix Jones are out on the offensive side for a while, and hopefully Pacman has seen his last snap as a professional.
I really don't know why these guys are mentioned in the same breath as TO and Witten. Sure they catch a ball here and there, but Redskins and Cowboys fans alike are always, "But Crayton is still there!!"

It's all good, neither of them are that great or even good of a receiver. Chilllllllllllllllllllllllll.
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Old 10-15-2008, 09:56 AM   #82
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Now i know I hate Detroit. I hope TO is happy. The Lions just through in the towel for this season.
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Re: Breaking News Roy Williams Traded to Dallas

I think the move for Williams makes Dallas a better team, especially in the long run. We will have to see how they distribute the ball in that offense in the coming weeks.
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Old 10-15-2008, 10:05 AM   #84
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This sucks. I don't understand how they have the cap space. Also how will they afford him next year? Can T.O. survive with another big time reciever? We will find out in due time. I think dallas is desperate right now and they sense their season going down the crapper. I bet Jerry Jones can't stand that we are better than them.
That's just it! I don't think they will be able to afford him next year under their cap. So if they choose to keep him around next season......that means someones about to take a pay cut! LOL
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Old 10-15-2008, 10:11 AM   #85
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While listening to Chris Mortenson, he pretty much agree's the toll was HEAVY with the 1,3,6 +20m in guaranteed $$.
He did point out that the boys will be packing it in with TO in the next couple of years as he is not a kid (in reciever and dog years), and will have outlived his usefullness. This deal gives them an heir apparent.
AND, in the interim, it should provide some serious entertainment with TO, as it looks like...sadly.....snif.....snif........Adam may not have much entertainment value left
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Well there is still only one football and it rarely works having 2 #1 WR. They are going to still be the same team, light up the weaker teams and struggle against the better teams. They have no leadership and no heart. R. Williams isn't going to help in either area.
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They can load up on offense all they want, but that secondary is still a big problem. JJ is selling out to win now, but I just don't see how another WR puts them over the top.
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Well there is still only one football and it rarely works having 2 #1 WR. They are going to still be the same team, light up the weaker teams and struggle against the better teams. They have no leadership and no heart. R. Williams isn't going to help in either area.
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Right. It wasn't like their offense was exactly stalling. If you can sustain long drives and keep their defense on the field, that's how you beat the Cowboys.
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Old 10-15-2008, 11:20 AM   #90
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Re: Breaking News Roy Williams Traded to Dallas

Dallas is in trouble on the field now too. Romo is out a month.
Brad Johnson should fumble less though! Their secondary is
decimated, Williams is out a month, Newman is out, Felix Jones is out, Pacman should be
considered done for good. Even their punter has a broken foot from
being blocked in OT last week to lose the game to the Cardinals. They
just traded a 1st-round , 3rd- and 6th- draft picks for a WR who is
pretty much a 1st-round bust himself...and gave him $20 million a year
guaranteed! Roy Williams is the highest-paid WR in football now, he
makes $5 million more per year than Randy Moss, $7 million more than
Burress...why? They're already comfortable at WR with Owens
(although he's playing poorly now), Crayton, Austin...plus you can
consider Witten a WR pretty much. They need help on defense now.
You can also bet that Owens will be upset any time this new
high-profile WR takes catches away from him.

I guess since they have no D, they're going to try to outscore everyone. That works for BYU or Hawaii (with Colt Brennan), but not in the NFL.

Bad move in my opinion, but then again, so was Wade Phillips and half
of their roster it looks like.

If I were a Dallas fan, I'd be sick of Jerry Jones too. They have
not won a playoff game in 13 years despite solid regular seasons. It
has to be tough being a fan of that team. Even when Dan Snyder first
took over and we had Heath Shuler (bust) at QB and Steve Spurrier
failing miserably as a coach, we didn't have the off-field problems
and lack of morals in the locker room. Losing was bad, but we didn't
feel like we lost our franchise. Snyder re-hired Gibbs, learned a
LOT about football and the boundaries an owner needs to have and he's
now one of the more successful owners in the league. Jerry Jones
still shows up on the sidelines (a la Al Davis) to call plays and
meddle with the team. No team can win with an owner like that.
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