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Old 12-02-2008, 02:39 PM   #31
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Re: Jansen vs. Heyer

Stephon Heyer. He played well when he started, Jansen took the job on injury, did well for a few weeks, now looks awful.
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Old 12-02-2008, 02:40 PM   #32
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To me, Jansen makes a lot of sense at Center because he's a lot quicker out of his stance than Rabach is, and struggles to block ends with multiple moves one on one. But on the interior, he wouldn't face players like this, and would actually handle his own theoretically.

Plus, we threw a bunch of money at him prior to 2007, and we're not about to give up on him just yet.
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Old 12-02-2008, 05:53 PM   #33
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Re: Jansen vs. Heyer

I just heard JC is the fifth most sacked qb. That sure is not helping JC get better. We shoould put in Heyer and see what happens. If he is better in pass protection the maybe he will improve his run blocking with more game experience.
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Old 12-02-2008, 06:10 PM   #34
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If you are playing this Sunday to win this Sunday's game and not worrying about the future and all that stuff, you play Jansen.

If you want to develop Heyer and give him game experience for "down the road" play Heyer.
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Old 12-02-2008, 06:45 PM   #35
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Heyer has to play the rest of the way. Jansen is not going to get any better at this point, Heyer will with more PT. He is the better edge blocker and we desperately need that now.
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Old 12-02-2008, 07:41 PM   #36
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Heyer has to play the rest of the way. Jansen is not going to get any better at this point, Heyer will with more PT. He is the better edge blocker and we desperately need that now.
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Old 12-02-2008, 07:47 PM   #37
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Jansen is done. It hurts my heart to say it, because I loved that guy for so long, but he's a liablity at this point.
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Old 12-02-2008, 07:49 PM   #38
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Re: Jansen vs. Heyer

Heyer has an excuse for missing a block on run plays.What is Jansens for the lack of pass protection.Is it because he has experience..lol.He should be protecting better than he is!!!!
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Old 12-02-2008, 07:49 PM   #39
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Re: Jansen vs. Heyer

Jansen seems to be taking the brunt of this but let's face it he's not the only guilty party here. With Samuels I'm willing to give him some slack due to him playing with a bad knee, and Kendall has generally been pretty solid. Rabach, Thomas, and Jansen/Heyer have all had their moments of shitty play.
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Old 12-02-2008, 09:10 PM   #40
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Am I the only one who noticed that the whole O-line started it's downward spiral when Buges left for his family emergency and has not recovered since? Whether it's technique or execution...lol. I'm not sure but the whole line has sucked since then.


I know Buges is back but just wonder if he lost his zing for coaching or are the players simply blowing him off?
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Old 12-03-2008, 08:47 AM   #41
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Jansen seems to be taking the brunt of this but let's face it he's not the only guilty party here. With Samuels I'm willing to give him some slack due to him playing with a bad knee, and Kendall has generally been pretty solid. Rabach, Thomas, and Jansen/Heyer have all had their moments of shitty play.
Agreed, but we can fix one of those problems with a young upcoming tackle in Heyer right now. Heyer can actually block speed rushers and stand up the bull rushers. Jansen can't do it like that no more. His last injury really hurt him. Heck, I'm even surprised he was able to come back from that. Because that picture they showed of that ankle...............I'm not a mathematician, but that spelled ouch in 27 different languages.

I love Jansen he really anchored that part of the line for us for many years. He played through injuries while shutting down Michael Strahan, Julius Peppers, and other top noch pass rushers. But, if Campbell really is the fifth most sacked quarterback in the league we got to do something too change that. I don't care if we keep Jansen on the line, but we should place Lorenzo Alexander on the line next to Jansen. Then Cooley or Yoder next to Samuels or Alexander. Something must be done!

Portis' great pass blocking skills, even when he's hurt, has forced teams to blitz the outside a heck of alot more. And with Jansen playing the way he is and Samuels playing on a bumb knee.............defenses are just licking their chops! It seems as if that part is always open for a quick pressure by the defense when they need to bring it. And we can't let that continue.

We can't let Campbell continue to get hit the way he has been. Our offense will sputter and we will lose against the Ravens, and definetly against San Fran, and maybe even the Bengals too! Marvin Lewis knows how to bring pressure. And he's going to want too go out with a bang. I can't see a better way then to beat your former team, which hired a dumbass college coach over you.
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Old 12-03-2008, 09:14 AM   #42
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I don't recall Heyer playing all that well when in the lineup either, so I'm really not sure if he's a real solution to anything right now.
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Am I the only one who noticed that the whole O-line started it's downward spiral when Buges left for his family emergency and has not recovered since? Whether it's technique or execution...lol. I'm not sure but the whole line has sucked since then.


I know Buges is back but just wonder if he lost his zing for coaching or are the players simply blowing him off?
No, you're not the only one trying to simplify all the problems with our offensive line into a single event, unfortunately.
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Old 12-03-2008, 03:37 PM   #44
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Re: Jansen vs. Heyer

The funny thing is the perfect position for Jansen right now might be left guard. Few of us doubt the fact that Jansen is a mauler when it comes to run blocking (a fact that many Jansen bashers know but fail to mention when talking about replacing him) however a lot of us will agree that he has struggled in pass protection. Left guard is a position that is important in the run game (though not as important as right guard) and at the same time the left guard usually gets the most help from the center when it comes to pass protection. Of course I don't know what the teams plans are for Kendall and Rhinehart after this year but I do think it's interesting to consider the fact that Jansen might be a perfect fit at LG.
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Old 12-04-2008, 08:54 AM   #45
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How good is Jansen in pass protection? I think the answer for any Redskin fan can be summed up in one simple observation. Renaldo Wynn, cast off from the Skins for being completely and totally ineffective as a pass rusher (and this being relative compared to the rest of the Skins' d-line) beat Jansen for a sack last weekend. Wynn ... the 34 year old, twice cut, Redskin reject cruised past Jansen. That's how good Jansen is in pass protection. He's a pass rushing slug with 25 sacks in 11 pro seasons, averaging slightly more than 2 per season. He has one this season ... against Jansen. No blitz, no stunt, no nothing except a straight up dash past Jansen on his way to sacking Campbell.
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