After Setback, Kelly May Be Headed for IR

DynamiteRave · 10-22-2008, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by doughtydoubter

Why are we horrible at drafting wrs? Gardner...cliff russel, michelle westbrook, taylor jacobs?? The list goes on...Kenaan mcardell may be the only exception and we cut him. Im begining to think we wasted BOTH those draft picks...maybe 6 out of the ten....
Durant, Tryon (although i think time will tell on him) Crystal Kelly, "showtime" thomas who hant shown anything, fred im gonna run for minus four yards davis, and rob jackson who will probably never see the field...sigh....so much for building through the draft eh boys???

Wow. You're pretty harsh. Remember, these guys JUST got drafted. I'm hoping nobody expected them to come in and have a superstar rookie season. Especially not with 2 solid WRs already. Brooks was what.. a 6th round pick? Not really a waste. Sometimes you find a diamond in the rough that late (Horton) but not usually. Thomas and Davis I think will be good additions in the coming weeks and are definitely good to have in case, God forbid, someone gets injured. The only draft pick that is really bothering me is Kelly and his bum knee.

SmootSmack · 10-22-2008, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by doughtydoubter

Why are we horrible at drafting wrs? Gardner...cliff russel, michelle westbrook, taylor jacobs?? The list goes on...Kenaan mcardell may be the only exception and we cut him. Im begining to think we wasted BOTH those draft picks...maybe 6 out of the ten....
Durant, Tryon (although i think time will tell on him) Crystal Kelly, "showtime" thomas who hant shown anything, fred im gonna run for minus four yards davis, and rob jackson who will probably never see the field...sigh....so much for building through the draft eh boys???

Pressing the panic button a bit too soon aren't we?

doughtydoubter · 10-22-2008, 09:18 PM

i like fred davis dont get me wrong...but these guys seem to be alot farther behind..the season is almost half done and none of them have even hardy seen the field..and a sixth rounder was wasted on a punter who does that??

CRedskinsRule · 10-22-2008, 09:23 PM

I feel repetitive now, but when you return 20+ starters, no one is expecting that the rookies are going to suddenly be shining. Horton had the chance only because of the loss of ST, does anyone think Horton would be playing if he was still here.

CRedskinsRule · 10-22-2008, 09:26 PM

also, I've wondered alot about our WR Coach, I don't know anything about him, but it doesn't seem like we have a track record of growing receivers in house. Does anyone know how he came to the Skins?

SmootSmack · 10-22-2008, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by doughtydoubter

i like fred davis dont get me wrong...but these guys seem to be alot farther behind..the season is almost half done and none of them have even hardy seen the field..and a sixth rounder was wasted on a punter who does that??

Well I didn't agree with their decision to get a punter, and I think there were better choices at DB (a definite need for us) than Tryon. But it's way too soon to say so much for building through the draft. We're only seven games into their rookie season. At this point in their respective rookie careers Jason Campbell and Santana Moss hadn't even gotten playing time yet.

This time next year Thomas, Davis, Horton, Rinehart, Kelly, Tryon could all be major contributors for us. Maybe even Jackson (a 7th round pick) and Moore.

doughtydoubter · 10-22-2008, 09:30 PM

i really like moore and horton...those guys are solid and props for number 48 tearing it up like a champ out there. Rinehart will blossom im sure...but we'll see. i guess its just set back after set back with those two wrs..and it is eminently frustrating to see desean and eddie royal break out so easily into the nfl.

SouperMeister · 10-22-2008, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by doughtydoubter

Why are we horrible at drafting wrs? Gardner...cliff russel, michelle westbrook, taylor jacobs?? The list goes on...Kenaan mcardell may be the only exception and we cut him. Im begining to think we wasted BOTH those draft picks...maybe 6 out of the ten....
Durant, Tryon (although i think time will tell on him) Crystal Kelly, "showtime" thomas who hant shown anything, fred im gonna run for minus four yards davis, and rob jackson who will probably never see the field...sigh....so much for building through the draft eh boys???

I'm surprised you forgot to mention the biggest bust of all: Desmond Howard (drafted the same year as McCardell). We traded two 1st round picks (#6 and #28) to nab Howard with the 4th overall pick. WR is definitely among the riskiest positions to draft in the 1st round.

Darrell_Green_28 · 10-22-2008, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by doughtydoubter

i like fred davis dont get me wrong...but these guys seem to be alot farther behind..the season is almost half done and none of them have even hardy seen the field..and a sixth rounder was wasted on a punter who does that??

maybe thats good that they havent seen the field means that the starters are still playing good and are healthy.

I also saw that besides Springs, that Smoot will be out also this week.

SouperMeister · 10-22-2008, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Darrell_Green_28

maybe thats good that they havent seen the field means that the starters are still playing good and are healthy.

I also saw that besides Springs, that Smoot will be out also this week.

Does that make Tryon our #3 CB on Sunday? I feel much better about our CB situation with the way Carlos Rogers is playing. He has been a stud.

GTripp0012 · 10-22-2008, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I guess that is why the FO took 2 shots at a receiver. You never really know until they get in the league, so if even one pans out we win. Right now our top 3 receivers still give us most of what we need and I still expect good things out of Thomas.

I would say that there is a real possibility that we didn't get a WR of the future out of this draft.

I'm not saying that this is likely, or even that I believe this is the case, but Malcolm Kelly is only going to be as good as his right knee allows him to be and Devin Thomas may not be anything at all.

Still, I like the draft strategy that they used here, I just felt at the time (and still do) that they botched the execution. I usually like the Redskins' drafts but this one definately had me scratching my head.

SmootSmack · 10-22-2008, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Darrell_Green_28

maybe thats good that they havent seen the field means that the starters are still playing good and are healthy.

I also saw that besides Springs, that Smoot will be out also this week.

Where did you see that about Smoot?

GTripp0012 · 10-22-2008, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DIRTEE

I'm in favor of Mix, he's a special teams beast and a big red zone body.

I'm assuming that by "special teams beast" you mean "he recovered a free ball in a playoff game"

DIRTEE · 10-23-2008, 02:25 AM

Well that's the highlight of his career. I think its pretty major even though you decided to simplify his deed(s). He can definitely help out in the red zone.

doughtydoubter · 10-23-2008, 07:12 AM

Lets just trade to bring brandon lloyd back and we'll call it even.
:frusty:

10-22-2008, 09:18 PM	#33
doughtydoubter Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: the glorious city of DC Posts: 696	Re: After Setback, Kelly May Be Headed for IR i like fred davis dont get me wrong...but these guys seem to be alot farther behind..the season is almost half done and none of them have even hardy seen the field..and a sixth rounder was wasted on a punter who does that??

10-22-2008, 09:23 PM	#34
CRedskinsRule MVP Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Pasadena, Md Age: 45 Posts: 10,901	Re: After Setback, Kelly May Be Headed for IR I feel repetitive now, but when you return 20+ starters, no one is expecting that the rookies are going to suddenly be shining. Horton had the chance only because of the loss of ST, does anyone think Horton would be playing if he was still here.

10-22-2008, 09:26 PM	#35
CRedskinsRule MVP Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Pasadena, Md Age: 45 Posts: 10,901	Re: After Setback, Kelly May Be Headed for IR also, I've wondered alot about our WR Coach, I don't know anything about him, but it doesn't seem like we have a track record of growing receivers in house. Does anyone know how he came to the Skins?

10-22-2008, 09:30 PM	#37
doughtydoubter Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: the glorious city of DC Posts: 696	Re: After Setback, Kelly May Be Headed for IR i really like moore and horton...those guys are solid and props for number 48 tearing it up like a champ out there. Rinehart will blossom im sure...but we'll see. i guess its just set back after set back with those two wrs..and it is eminently frustrating to see desean and eddie royal break out so easily into the nfl.

10-23-2008, 02:25 AM	#44
DIRTEE Special Teams Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 256	Re: After Setback, Kelly May Be Headed for IR Well that's the highlight of his career. I think its pretty major even though you decided to simplify his deed(s). He can definitely help out in the red zone.

10-23-2008, 07:12 AM	#45
doughtydoubter Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: the glorious city of DC Posts: 696	Re: After Setback, Kelly May Be Headed for IR Lets just trade to bring brandon lloyd back and we'll call it even. :frusty:

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