Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Lions)

Hog1 · 10-27-2008, 11:03 AM

SUISHAM......is getting WAY to much work...FINISH THE DRIVE

BDBohnzie · 10-27-2008, 11:04 AM

Both Jansen and Heyer had subpar performances yesterday. I'd give Heyer a very small pass for the fact that he hasn't played in a few weeks, and then when he comes back, is thrown in on the other side of the ball. But both certainly need to step it up against the Steelers next Sunday night.

Coach Zorn, do us a favor. Do not go for a 2 point conversion unless the Skins are behind and need to close the gap. While the Lions aren't a juggernaut, they had the opportunity to tie the game late because of your choice to go for 2 when it wasn't completely necessary. I do realize that coaches have a chart that tells them whether or not to go for 2...sometimes common sense trumps charts and graphs.

Maybe ARE needs Devin Thomas to run into him while returning punts? That seems to be key in opening up the lanes...

Hog1 · 10-27-2008, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Actually, it was a subtle subliminal message to you big boy

yes...freudian slip. I don't want to tell JC I love him...becuase I don't know how I'll react if I don't hear it back

What did you get JC for Christmas?
..............SmootSmack jersey?

Darrell_Green_28 · 10-27-2008, 11:28 AM

Someone also tell Suisham that he DOESN'T HAVET TO MISS 1 FG / game.
I never saw the game.
Will Samuels be back next week? what about any other injuries any updates on them?
Need to cut the penalties out all together.
Illegal Contact has declined on defenders only because Devin Thomas decided he would take them when hes on the field.

GTripp0012 · 10-27-2008, 12:45 PM

What is it with our rookies trying to tackle our returners?

BringBackJoeT · 10-27-2008, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Darrell_Green_28

Someone also tell Suisham that he DOESN'T HAVET TO MISS 1 FG / game.
I never saw the game.
Will Samuels be back next week? what about any other injuries any updates on them?
Need to cut the penalties out all together.
Illegal Contact has declined on defenders only because Devin Thomas decided he would take them when hes on the field.

Suisham was a perfect 7-7 against the Cowboys and Eagles, and followed those two games by hitting his one attempt against the Rams. His one miss against the Lions came on a day in which he nailed four others, three from 40+ yards. He's not perfect, but he's not a guy that I'm inclined to call out.

GMScud · 10-27-2008, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Darrell_Green_28

Someone also tell Suisham that he DOESN'T HAVET TO MISS 1 FG / game.
I never saw the game.
Will Samuels be back next week? what about any other injuries any updates on them?
Need to cut the penalties out all together.
Illegal Contact has declined on defenders only because Devin Thomas decided he would take them when hes on the field.

Don't quote me on this, but I'm pretty sure 4 of his 5 missed FGs on the year were from longer than 50 yards. He does have a long of 50 this year, but there aren't too many outdoor kickers who routinely hit all of their 50+ yard attempts.

SouperMeister · 10-27-2008, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by gibbsisgod

Jansen's facemask penalty was horseshit! I don't think he touched the facemask at all.

I mentioned this earlier, and it bears repeating - the competition committe should change the rule and allow facemask to be reviewable if the offending team feels that the officials blew it. On more than one occasion this year, I've seen a facemask called when it was never touched. 15 yards is a harsh penalty for an instance when the official blows the call.

Lotus · 10-27-2008, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BDBohnzie

Both Jansen and Heyer had subpar performances yesterday. I'd give Heyer a very small pass for the fact that he hasn't played in a few weeks, and then when he comes back, is thrown in on the other side of the ball. But both certainly need to step it up against the Steelers next Sunday night.

Coach Zorn, do us a favor. Do not go for a 2 point conversion unless the Skins are behind and need to close the gap. While the Lions aren't a juggernaut, they had the opportunity to tie the game late because of your choice to go for 2 when it wasn't completely necessary. I do realize that coaches have a chart that tells them whether or not to go for 2...sometimes common sense trumps charts and graphs.

Maybe ARE needs Devin Thomas to run into him while returning punts? That seems to be key in opening up the lanes...

I agree on the 2-point thing. You save the 2-pointer until the end of the game, say within the final five minutes. Most of the 4th quarter was still remaining when we went for it. That one point which we gave up could have been big, given that the margin of victory was 8.

GusFrerotte · 10-27-2008, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The facemask on Jansen was a horrible call, just horrible.

I can't even get mad at JC for the fumbles. The protection on the left side was pretty bad, and he more than made up for it with his overall performance.

My only gripe, we need more points.

Matty is spot on with that facemask. Didn't see squat on the replay on the jumbotron at Ford Field. My only concern is that JC can't go with no backs to help block him. IF Zorny does go no back, he better put an extra TE in their at least. JC got destroyed during the last fumble.

Dirtbag59 · 10-27-2008, 05:24 PM

I've been thinking that the Redskins need to start practicing for penalities. Obviously prevention isn't working and everytime we get a penalty (even if it's just a 5 yard false start) we fail to recover. I can't think of one time this year where we converted for a first after a penalty. I guess the best thing to do would be to call back plays in practice and give the offense a goal. Maybe they're doing this already, of course I don't know what goes on at Redskin Park, but at the very least if we're going to get these penalties we have to learn how to recover. You can't just lay down and die because you lost five yards.

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Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Matty is spot on with that facemask. Didn't see squat on the replay on the jumbotron at Ford Field. My only concern is that JC can't go with no backs to help block him. IF Zorny does go no back, he better put an extra TE in their at least. JC got destroyed during the last fumble.

Man thats cool that you actually got a chance to go. However how in the world did you get tickets to a Lions game? Just kidding of course I agree based on the crappy streaming quality on my end that the call on Jansen was bull. Of course later when they called two straight penalties on Gosder Cherilus I kept on thinking man thats unfair that they're picking on the guy, damn refs (yes I realize he's on the other team but if it can happen to them it can happen to us). Of course after seeing the replay I could see that those were two of the ugliest cases of holding that I had ever seen.

Mattyk · 10-27-2008, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I've been thinking that the Redskins need to start practicing for penalities. Obviously prevention isn't working and everytime we get a penalty (even if it's just a 5 yard false start) we fail to recover. I can't think of one time this year where we converted for a first after a penalty. I guess the best thing to do would be to call back plays in practice and give the offense a goal. Maybe they're doing this already, of course I don't know what goes on at Redskin Park, but at the very least if we're going to get these penalties we have to learn how to recover. You can't just lay down and die because you lost five yards.

It happened yesterday and I'm sure this isn't the only time this year.

Check the Redskins drive at 02:22 in the 2nd qtr

NFL Game Center: Play-by-Play - Washington Redskins at Detroit Lions - 2008 8

Dirtbag59 · 10-27-2008, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

It happened yesterday and I'm sure this isn't the only time this year.

Check the Redskins drive at 02:22 in the 2nd qtr

NFL Game Center: Play-by-Play - Washington Redskins at Detroit Lions - 2008 8

Well in that case I'm glad to hear that I wasn't totally right on that point. Though I really wish they would do a better job of getting back on their feet after these setbacks especially if we're going to get these penalities anyway.

rypper11 · 10-28-2008, 02:08 PM

Gotta lay the smack on Alexander. When Portis is getting his headgear fixed and then fighting with coach, backup must produce! I have always thought he was overrated but we could have stuck Durant Brooks in the backfield and gotten the same production. Shaun Alexander, hit the hole or donate your check and go home.
Other than that, Jansen got screwed. Not only was his penalty complete crap (the personal foul not the holding that was his fault) but nobody even mentions how the left side was fodder for the run while the right stayed strong.
Heyer is a great pass blocker but the reason he wasn't drafted is his run grading. Unless Buges can teach him, he will never be a complete tackle.

hooskins · 10-28-2008, 11:18 PM

heyer, heyer, heyer...

10-27-2008, 11:03 AM	#16
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 8,376	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Lions) SUISHAM......is getting WAY to much work...FINISH THE DRIVE __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... Win! Always win! By fair means or foul, by soft words and hard deeds... by treachery, by cunning, by malpractice... but always win--Edward Teach

10-27-2008, 11:04 AM	#17
BDBohnzie Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Frederick, MD Age: 34 Posts: 4,368	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Lions) Both Jansen and Heyer had subpar performances yesterday. I'd give Heyer a very small pass for the fact that he hasn't played in a few weeks, and then when he comes back, is thrown in on the other side of the ball. But both certainly need to step it up against the Steelers next Sunday night. Coach Zorn, do us a favor. Do not go for a 2 point conversion unless the Skins are behind and need to close the gap. While the Lions aren't a juggernaut, they had the opportunity to tie the game late because of your choice to go for 2 when it wasn't completely necessary. I do realize that coaches have a chart that tells them whether or not to go for 2...sometimes common sense trumps charts and graphs. Maybe ARE needs Devin Thomas to run into him while returning punts? That seems to be key in opening up the lanes... __________________ Bad Things man, I mean bad things... “WE TOOK HIM IN THE SIXTH ROUND SO WE'RE NOT SMART EITHER.” - Shanny on what the Skins saw in Alfred Morris

10-27-2008, 11:28 AM	#19
Darrell_Green_28 The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Age: 44 Posts: 1,949	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Lions) Someone also tell Suisham that he DOESN'T HAVET TO MISS 1 FG / game. I never saw the game. Will Samuels be back next week? what about any other injuries any updates on them? Need to cut the penalties out all together. Illegal Contact has declined on defenders only because Devin Thomas decided he would take them when hes on the field. __________________ Light travels faster than sound. That's why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

10-27-2008, 12:45 PM	#20
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Age: 25 Posts: 15,143	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Lions) What is it with our rookies trying to tackle our returners? __________________ Shanahan: “The bad thing is he's [Sav Rocca] probably our best offensive weapon and that’s not good.”

10-28-2008, 02:08 PM	#29
rypper11 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Winston Salem, NC Posts: 1,217	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Lions) Gotta lay the smack on Alexander. When Portis is getting his headgear fixed and then fighting with coach, backup must produce! I have always thought he was overrated but we could have stuck Durant Brooks in the backfield and gotten the same production. Shaun Alexander, hit the hole or donate your check and go home. Other than that, Jansen got screwed. Not only was his penalty complete crap (the personal foul not the holding that was his fault) but nobody even mentions how the left side was fodder for the run while the right stayed strong. Heyer is a great pass blocker but the reason he wasn't drafted is his run grading. Unless Buges can teach him, he will never be a complete tackle. __________________ Playing a kids game for a kings ransom.

10-28-2008, 11:18 PM	#30
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 25 Posts: 8,557	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Lions) heyer, heyer, heyer... __________________ Vacancy

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