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| RG Glee Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 33
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| Who's More Important: Moss or Samuels This may fall into the category of pointless debate, but what the hell, these can be fun to think about. With both Samuels and Moss questionable for tonight's game, hanging onto knee and hammy ailments respectively, who's absence would have a bigger impact on the Redskins? Feel free to consider just for this particular game or for an extended period. |
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| Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: the glorious city of DC
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| Re: Who's More Important: Moss or Samuels thos week i would say moss due to the inexperience of the rookies and we are facing a steelers defense that will slam the box and limit portis |
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| \m/ ![]() Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40
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| Re: Who's More Important: Moss or Samuels Good question. Speaking about tonight only, if I had to pick one I'd rather have Samuels in the lineup. I think if he's given the time Campbell should be able to dish it around effectively enough, but if he's pressured consistently from the blindside it's not going to matter much who's playing WR. |
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| I like big (_|_)s. ![]() Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 31
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| Re: Who's More Important: Moss or Samuels For me, it's kind of a catch-22. It's tough to get the ball to Moss if Campbell doesn't have time and the passing game suffers if Moss isn't drawing double coverage. That being said, if I'm forced to pick one for tonight, I'd say Samuels. While Moss is amazing, there are other receivers who have to step up.
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| Re: Who's More Important: Moss or Samuels I'll take Samuels anyday of the week. |
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| Pro Bowl ![]() Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: DC Metro Area Age: 34
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| Re: Who's More Important: Moss or Samuels Short term Moss, long term Samuels. You can scheme blocking for at least one week. After that you need a solid presence at left tackle so that someone doesn't scheme your scheme. If Moss was out for one night, it would greatly hurt the way that we move the ball through the air. After a couple of weeks however, we would find a way to get the ball into the hands of other playmakers.
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| Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: the glorious city of DC
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| Re: Who's More Important: Moss or Samuels im confident in heyer tonight though if samuels cant go, |
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| Re: Who's More Important: Moss or Samuels Quote:
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| Living Legend ![]() Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 49
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| Re: Who's More Important: Moss or Samuels Last year Bugle did a good job at getting players ready when coming in for injured players. With that said we have a back up for Samuals but we don't for Moss. |
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| Re: Who's More Important: Moss or Samuels over the course of a season, i'd say samuel's contribution is more key. but in a single game, i think moss' presence is missed more. the lack of a deep threat is huge.
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| Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Age: 25
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| Re: Who's More Important: Moss or Samuels The answer is Samuels. Without Moss, the deep pass leaves the offense, but that can be overcome. Without Samuels, the deep pass leaves the offense, as well as running the ball to the left, and also converting on third downs.
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| Re: Who's More Important: Moss or Samuels Tonight, against this defense, I'd rather have Samuels. We're gonna need to run the ball. Not Heyers strongest point. Plus Jason has other receivers to throw to if he's not on his back. Maybe if the burden was put on Thomas he would step up. Hopefully they can both give it their best shot with the bye coming up.
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| MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 51
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| Re: Who's More Important: Moss or Samuels good question. i say Samuels. without time to throw, Jerry Rice could line up tonight, and be a non factor
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| RG Glee Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 33
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| Re: Who's More Important: Moss or Samuels Quote:
But do you really lose that much in pass protection with Heyer? Samuels is better, no doubt. But I can't use just the Detroit game to judge Heyer at LT. He's done a real good job at times when pass blocking, albeit from the right side most of the time. I guess I'm saying you take a step down from Samuels to Heyer in pass protection, but I don't think you develop a complete weak link there. So I don't think the deep pass automatically goes bye bye with Samuels out. But I think losing the success in running to the left that all by itself makes Samuels more important than Moss. We friggin gut teams when we run left, it's how Portis has gotten most of his yardage (which leads the friggin league). Tonight, I think a Samuels absence would CRUSH us (their pass rush is insane and their run D is already good enough with Heyer's ineptitude there to aid them). Over the long haul, Samuels's absence would hurt more than Moss, but only slightly. | |
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| Special Teams Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: New Jersey
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| Re: Who's More Important: Moss or Samuels Tonight, we need to pressure Big Ben, and we have other guys to be weapons for Campell, so I'd say samuels. |
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