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Old 11-04-2008, 12:27 PM   #1
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A Very Troubling Statistic

Straight from this morning's Washington Times:

In the last five games, the Redskins have only one first-half touchdown - a 3-yard drive - in 32 possessions.

That is astounding. The defense is effectively keeping us in every game while the offense hasn't held up its end, even against below average teams (Rams, Browns, Lions). We've gotten virtually nothing from our three receivers drafted in the 2nd round, and now Moss is gimpy once again. What changes (strategic, personnel, etc.) would you like to see from Zorn after the bye to address the lack of 1st half scoring?

I will volunteer two personnel moves - I don't see what Yoder gives the offense that Fred Davis wouldn't give and then some. I also would like to see Heyer starting at RT to help stabilize the pass protection.
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:31 PM   #2
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I don't think personnel is really the problem. The problem is that we can't sustain drives because we keep shooting ourselves in the foot with penalties. This team is starting look like its old self with all the penalties and turnovers.

Hopefully the bye will help the coaching staff re-evaluate everything and the players can get some rest both mentally and physically.
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:45 PM   #3
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yonder really does'nt do much.i'm all for fred davis,but heyer sucks.
I'm assuming you meant Yoder. I really only like him in goalline pass situations. He seems to be clutch there. I'd really like to see Davis get some time. And yes, I think we all can agree that Heyer is quite the goat.
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:50 PM   #4
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Re: A Very Troubling Statistic

I read this somewhere so it's not original but...deactivate M Kelly if he's not going to play and get another WR. Where's Reche Caldwell or that other guy we had last year? Bring them in.
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Old 11-04-2008, 01:43 PM   #5
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Hindsight is 20/20 but it probaly wasnt the smartest move going into the season with Moss, ARE then thrash as our 3rd reciever, relying on 2nd round rookies to add depth after that.

One injury to moss and we are left with ARE and thrash who will not cut it against good to great D teams. I doubt reche would be an improvement or solution.

Dick Lebeau plain outcoached zorn, it happens we cant win em all.

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Old 11-04-2008, 01:45 PM   #6
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This statistic would be way more troubling if we weren't significantly better in the second half.

I agree with both suggestions. Heyer gives us the best chance to win at RT, and Yoder doesn't do anything well enough to warrant playing time when both of the other TEs are healthy.

I said in a live blog yesterday that Yoder blocks like a receiving TE, and has the hands of a lineman.
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Old 11-04-2008, 01:51 PM   #7
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Reche Caldwell is a St. Louis Ram, for those wondering
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Old 11-04-2008, 02:10 PM   #8
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Our offense is pretty bad right now, except for Portis' running. Opposing defenses saw last night how to shut us down: pressure Campbell, and the passing game is gone.
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Old 11-04-2008, 02:13 PM   #9
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yonder really does'nt do much.i'm all for fred davis,but heyer sucks.
Heyer sucks? Are you being sarcastic? He may not be lights out, but he can't be any worse than the guy who was put on his ass by a linebacker, and attempted a half assed chop block on a player that he outweighs by roughly 60 pounds, AND got caught off guard by his own offense's silent snap count.
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Im not surprise, but ona positive note think of all the second half touchdowns.
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Old 11-04-2008, 02:29 PM   #11
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I know everyone is freaking out about how bad the skins played, we have to remember they are 6-3. When "experts" say the outcome of the game is decided by a handful of plays- in this case its true. If you look at the 40 yard (questionable) pass interference call and the blocked punt, here are two plays that cost them 14 points. You take that from the final score and you cant say the steelers played that much better than the skins. The defense did their job.
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Old 11-04-2008, 02:35 PM   #12
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Sorry correction to last post-those two plays cost the skins 10 points. Erase those the score is 13-6? something to think about
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Actually the truth is, JC, got gun shy, started to pass to check down only, yea, he didnt have time, but Zorn didnt do a good job preparing of the blitz, like this, watching the game was like watching paint dry, it was horrible, and even though Carlos Rogers is playing lights out, the differents between an elite DB and a good one, is getting the int's. that are giving to you and making big plays, he pick that, we up 13-3 and the steelers lose their mojo. the truth is we need Jason Taylor in to help create pressure and we have to get picks, if we dont, doesnt matter where we finish, we will be one and done in the playoffs.
watching the game on tv you cant tell if someone is open downfield because the camera stays on the qb, but it seemed to me that plays where JC had time he would scan down field and I assume didnt throw it because no one was open. i also assumed no one was open because moss was dinged up and our receivers on the field couldnt get separation. alot of assumption on my part.

i thought that pass inter call on carlos was legit, the steeler fans are complaining about the helmet to helmet call and i thought that was a good right call aswell.
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I know everyone is freaking out about how bad the skins played, we have to remember they are 6-3. When "experts" say the outcome of the game is decided by a handful of plays- in this case its true. If you look at the 40 yard (questionable) pass interference call and the blocked punt, here are two plays that cost them 14 points. You take that from the final score and you cant say the steelers played that much better than the skins. The defense did their job.
Well Pitt tried the onside kick and we had the turnover, both great field position and we did nothing but 3 and out. Good teams capitalize on those kind of mistakes.

Everyone keeps saying we are 6-3 like we dominated those 6 games. We could very easily be 3-6. We haven't dominated anyone and if we are a good team we should have dominated at least one of the previous 3 teams before the Steelers.

I know some believe our Oline and Dline are fine and have a couple of years left in them, but I don't agree and think we needed to address these this past offseason and we didn't and are paying for it now. Campbell is getting too much pressure and we are becoming a team that teams are going to stack the line to stop Portis and all we do is dump the short passes that gain us a yard or 2. We aren't stretching the field at all anymore. Campbell needs to start throwing the ball deep and letting his receivers make the plays.
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Well Pitt tried the onside kick and we had the turnover, both great field position and we did nothing but 3 and out. Good teams capitalize on those kind of mistakes.

Everyone keeps saying we are 6-3 like we dominated those 6 games. We could very easily be 3-6. We haven't dominated anyone and if we are a good team we should have dominated at least one of the previous 3 teams before the Steelers.

I know some believe our Oline and Dline are fine and have a couple of years left in them, but I don't agree and think we needed to address these this past offseason and we didn't and are paying for it now. Campbell is getting too much pressure and we are becoming a team that teams are going to stack the line to stop Portis and all we do is dump the short passes that gain us a yard or 2. We aren't stretching the field at all anymore. Campbell needs to start throwing the ball deep and letting his receivers make the plays.
Its never good enough. Were not a dominating team, we have a rookie coach, and were second in the east. I cant complain. Its better than what all you naysayers predicted us to be at this point. We are 6-3 and every post seems to be about how bad we suck; id hate to see what this forum would look like if we were 3-6. My conclusion: Go root for another team if the skins suck that bad.
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