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Old 11-17-2008, 09:44 AM   #16
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I don't know. I just need a reprieve from all the football talk (other than here of course), and then have people on air revert to old "standbys" like "Danny is a meddler. He wants to buy a Super Bowl" And then I have see these same people in the cafeteria.

Anyway, I'm rambling. Bottom line is there's nothing that can be done but wait for the next game. So I'd rather just wait for it, without having to be reminded constantly about the last loss.

Yea....don't forget ESPN will show a 30 second clip of a Skins win and talk for hours about how the rest of the league did on the same day but god forbid if Dallas wins. I bet if someone has the nads to watch ESPN you will see high lights all week mostly about the Dallas win. I also bet they show the game atleast twice on the NFL network.
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Old 11-17-2008, 10:11 AM   #17
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Agree w/ SS take. I'll add:

JC looks slower for some reason....slower than many other young QB's like Flacco, Ryan, Romo, Edwards, Rodgers. He's just not too mobile and that might be his achilles heel. He's gotten alot better in his pocket presence but he still not there. Don't get me wrong our Oline wasn't good last night, but JC didn't shine either. JC needs near perfect protection to be really good. Most QB's can be pretty good w/ near perfect protection.

Defensive Line: No pass rush

Playcalling: Let it rip a little bit. If John Madden keeps repeating that we need to loosen up the Defense we probably do. No more 3 yard outs if they're not giving it to us.

Defense: Played pretty well. Our O didn't help out one bit.

Home Field Advantage: We have absolutely no home field advantage, because we lose at home quite often. Good teams don't do this.

It is what it is: We're a below average offensive team. The #'s show this. We're 10 games in. I've been worried that we can't put up points against bad teams only to hear...a win's a win. It is, but, that's why I was worried. We can't score points. We are also a very good defensive team.
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Yea....don't forget ESPN will show a 30 second clip of a Skins win and talk for hours about how the rest of the league did on the same day but god forbid if Dallas wins. I bet if someone has the nads to watch ESPN you will see high lights all week mostly about the Dallas win. I also bet they show the game atleast twice on the NFL network.
Yeah, they opened with the Skins/Boys game on Sportscenter this morning and 90% of the "analysis" was about how much more comfortable Romo looked in the second half...
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Old 11-17-2008, 10:54 AM   #19
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Look, even when the guys on ESPN (or any other network) are saying positive things about the Redskins, I just don't care to listen to it when all I'm doing is waiting for next week's game...which I hope is a merciless blowout of the Seahawks.

Instead I'll just subject myself to another week of "Whither the GOP now?"
Haha. I'm right there with you on both points.

To add to your first post:

Home Field Advantage: Ummm, where is it? We've lost 3 out of 4 at home. It's so tough to win on the road in this league, if you can't take care of business in your own house, you're not going far.

Pass Rush: Demetric Evans is better than Jason Taylor. Plain and simple. Everyone can look at past statistics and accolades, blah blah blah. Demetric leads the team in sacks and is better against the run. I don't know if Taylor is still injured or if he's just lost it, but he doesn't deserve to be on the field right now.

4th Quarter Defense: With the game on the line, they run Marion Barber down our throat 11, yes ELEVEN straight times, and we can't stop it at all. You're playing at home against your archrival in a game you've dubbed "must win," you know exactly what's coming, and you can't stop it? Embarrassing. The D has been our strong suit overall, but that was a sad showing to end the game.

On a side note, I've seen a few comments about Buges not being in it. Our O-line starters have been around long enough to know their assignments. Buges not mentally being 100% for a few weeks has not caused this regression. Age and quickly diminishing skills have.

When I look at our bad O-line and lack of pass rush, I can't help but think of how we used our 3 top picks on pass catchers, and two of them can't even make it on the field.
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I'm not going to sit here and call Thomas, Kelly, and Davis busts because obviously they're not.

People who start threads complaining about Sharpe, Marino, etc. having no respect for the team and then that same person saying the game is over with the Redskins down just 4 with nearly 8 minutes left to play Seriously? You start a whiny thread about how no one loves us and then you give up. Maybe before you start asking others to respect the team, you should too. Let's not forget we've come from behind plenty this year.
To the first point. You're right, you can't call them busts. That would imply some ability to predict the future, which we cannot do, but we can deal with reality in the present. Kelly can't get on the field, I think Davis probably could do something but I am basing on that on pure speculation since he has not done anything, but Thomas is a liability when he is on the field. He not only doesn't help, he actively hurts the team. He couldn't manage to line up on the LOS on one play (ever think of looking to the side judge and getting the signal Devin?) which cost the team an 8 yard gain on first down (from 2nd and 2 to 1st and 15) and then he dropped a 3rd down pass on the final drive that would have at least extended the drive. Hopefully he will turn into the #2 receiver on this team (but I'm starting to think the law of averages is against us ... how likely is it that 4 or 5 receivers from the 2nd round turn out to be really good?). The point, though, is that while it is premature to call him a bust it is not premature to point out that he seems incapable of doing simple things like lining up properly. And this game is not the first time that he has demonstrated a general lack of football IQ (not to mention ability ... right now about all I know he can do is run a 40 yards pretty fast). With Thomas it does not look like a question of the coaching staff being unable to get him involved in the offense, it is that he is fundamentally incapable of contributing (if you want to blame someone I guess we can point to Stan Hixon) but I have trouble blaming any coach for the type of mistakes the Thomas has repeatedly made this season.

To the second point. AMEN!!!
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Old 11-17-2008, 11:16 AM   #21
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Defense was great. Bottom line, you give up 14 points to a talented team, you have done your job. Obviously, they should have sold out and stopped Barber in the fourth quarter, but defense was not the problem.

If not for Cartwright, we would have have only one scoring drive all game, and we needed to convert a fourth down to keep that drive alive.

Campbell played tough, was hit often and got rid of the ball under duress on a number of occasions, but overall played poorly. The fourth and four summarized his night. Even if Moss catches that ball, it is not a first down. You need to a least give yourself a chance for success. I believe when he stepped up in the pocket, he could have run for a first. Jason, take what you can and live for another play. Let's try to WIN the game...you play way too conservatively.

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Wait, I thought we won the draft? Now you're telling me we lost it?
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Wait, I thought we won the draft? Now you're telling me we lost it?
What did the Ol Ball Coach say? "Hindsight is 50-50?"

I'm not saying at least one of our three top picks won't pan out, I'm saying we should have drafted the one guy we had highest on our chart (Thomas I guess), and used the other two to bolster some badly needed offensive depth.
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What did the Ol Ball Coach say? "Hindsight is 50-50?"

I'm not saying at least one of our three top picks won't pan out, I'm saying we should have drafted the one guy we had highest on our chart (Thomas I guess), and used the other two to bolster some badly needed offensive depth.
You sound like me on draft day.

Look, it's hard to believe that our WRs aren't still in good position for the future, but we're going to need to see something from Malcolm Kelly in the last six games to go in feeling like we accomplished something.
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i was at the game. Carter was doubled alot. its Taylor, and the rest of the crew that are totally not getting anything done. the 2 biggest problems are the o line, who keeps getting pushed around. and Smoot. he simply cannot cover in man to man. and for the first time, Zorn looked alittle shaky. that challenge was down right brutal. the use of timeouts at the end of the first half. and the play calling
I'm sorry but no one on this site or any smart Redskin fan should bitch about the defense. The offense constantly keeps sending them out on the field yet they ALWAYS keep the game close. They gave up 14 points to a very very good offense. It's painfully clear we can't rush the passer. But Blache and his guys should get more credit. They are doing it with smoke and mirrors.
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Old 11-17-2008, 12:12 PM   #26
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about 4-5 horribly blown calls by the refs.

2 that were reviewd.

fuckin horrible.
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Haha. I'm right there with you on both points.

To add to your first post:

Home Field Advantage: Ummm, where is it? We've lost 3 out of 4 at home. It's so tough to win on the road in this league, if you can't take care of business in your own house, you're not going far.

Pass Rush: Demetric Evans is better than Jason Taylor. Plain and simple. Everyone can look at past statistics and accolades, blah blah blah. Demetric leads the team in sacks and is better against the run. I don't know if Taylor is still injured or if he's just lost it, but he doesn't deserve to be on the field right now.

4th Quarter Defense: With the game on the line, they run Marion Barber down our throat 11, yes ELEVEN straight times, and we can't stop it at all. You're playing at home against your archrival in a game you've dubbed "must win," you know exactly what's coming, and you can't stop it? Embarrassing. The D has been our strong suit overall, but that was a sad showing to end the game.

On a side note, I've seen a few comments about Buges not being in it. Our O-line starters have been around long enough to know their assignments. Buges not mentally being 100% for a few weeks has not caused this regression. Age and quickly diminishing skills have.
When I look at our bad O-line and lack of pass rush, I can't help but think of how we used our 3 top picks on pass catchers, and two of them can't even make it on the field.
No one is arguing that. The comment about Buges was just an observation.
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Defense was great. Bottom line, you give up 14 points to a talented team, you have done your job. Obviously, they should have sold out and stopped Barber in the fourth quarter, but defense was not the problem.

If not for Cartwright, we would have have only one scoring drive all game, and we needed to convert a fourth down to keep that drive alive.

Campbell played tough, was hit often and got rid of the ball under duress on a number of occasions, but overall played poorly. The fourth and four summarized his night. Even if Moss catches that ball, it is not a first down. You need to a least give yourself a chance for success. I believe when he stepped up in the pocket, he could have run for a first. Jason, take what you can and live for another play. Let's try to WIN the game...you play way too conservatively.

On the bright side, we shouldn't have to break the bank to retain services.
Ya what is it with punt coverage teams having such a problem with downing the ball when it is close to the goal line? You would think that they have this drilled in their head to keep sight of the goal line and don't cross it. Cartwright is a veteran and should have know better. Heck the ball was stopped and laying there. No need to dive on it like it was a live gernade and you were taking one for the team.
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Old 11-17-2008, 12:45 PM   #29
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It's not that we're 6-4 instead of 8-2 or 7-3. It's not even that we've lost two in a row at home in ugly fashion. It's the fact that we had a chance to BURY our archrival with a regular season sweep in front of a home crowd and wasted the opportunity. We gave our hated rival their season back. That to me is just flat out nauseating.
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Old 11-17-2008, 01:00 PM   #30
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its disgusting.

didnt score off turnovers, so getting them means shit.

jason taylor, i completly agree, get him off the field he isnt playing well AT ALL right now.

DeAngelo, welcome.... u should have been in when Fred was gasping for air...

shaun alexander? ... goodbye dude, have a seat Rock should be ahead of u on the depth chart u are terrible and dont even deserve to have reps in the game.

jason campbell ... can't zoom in on moss so much and force him the ball... can't blame u for the O-Line lack of pass pro....

clinton, played well as usual... but i think maybe u should have rested 2 be honest.

suisam ... what else is new, good for a critical miss in every game more so than not.

fletcher, where were u 95% of the game last night?

REFS - F OFF. BARBER'S ELBOW WAS DOWN AND THE BALL DIDNT BREAK THE PLAIN.

AND IM GLAD UR ALL THE SUDDEN ALLOWED 2 BE IN THE NUETRAL ZONE WHEN THE BALL IS SNAPPED AND ITS NOT OFFSIDE... GET A NEW CAREER CUZ UR NOT WORTH THE SHT THAT COMES OUTTA MY ASS IN THE NFL.

READ THE FUCKIN RULE BOOK ROCK HAD THE BALL AND WASNT ON THE GOAL-LINE THAT PLAY IS DEAD AT THAT POINT.

CLINTON WAS OUT-OF BOUNDS THANKS FOR FUCKING UP A POSSIBLE TD DRIVE BEFORE THE HALF.

F'N DISGRACEFUL REFS.


that is all. im frustrated now.
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