Deangelo Hall For Punt Returner!

hail_2_da_skins · 11-18-2008, 02:18 PM

I'm tired of seeing Antwaan Randle-El doing a two-step every time he runs a punt return. The good punt returners, catch the ball and go straight up field and attack the on coming defenders. By running straight up field, they force the defenders to have to break down and prepare to make a tackle in either direction. When Randle-El does his two-step, the defender can go right at him and take him down. He is not making anyone miss and gaining very few yards after he fields the punt. Deangelo Hall was a very good punt returner for the Atlanta Falcons. I know he wants to make an impression on this team. What do you guys think about having him field some punts? Santana Moss showed that there are big plays to be made in the punt return. I don't like Moss back there because it increases his chances of getting injured and the Skins cannot afford to lose their best receiver.

TheMalcolmConnection · 11-18-2008, 02:26 PM

I don't know. The way it's been with Springs they can't afford to lose another corner either.

Meks · 11-18-2008, 02:28 PM

i say devin thomas honestly.

hail_2_da_skins · 11-18-2008, 02:34 PM

I don't recall the Skins giving Devin Thomas a chance to run back punts in preseason. They tried Mason and Tryon, I don't remember Thomas getting a chance. I know he did it in college. I wouldn't be opposed to Thomas, I'm kinda frustrated with Randle-El.

firstdown · 11-18-2008, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Meks

i say devin thomas honestly.

Didn't we see Thomas try a few in preason with very poor results. I checked the stat's and El averages 8.5 and Hall is around 9.5 so I'm not to sure how much of a difference it would make. It does seem that El dances around a little too much.

MiraclesHappen07 · 11-18-2008, 02:37 PM

Honestly may not matter who we put back there

dmek25 · 11-18-2008, 02:41 PM

doesn't really matter. if they don't block, he cant return

BrunellMVP? · 11-18-2008, 02:45 PM

see Santana Moss v Detroit 2008...

SmootSmack · 11-18-2008, 02:45 PM

I wish I truly understood what is so remarkably different about punt returning and kick returning that Rock couldn't do both.

Mattyk · 11-18-2008, 02:50 PM

As a punt returner you don't have the time that you do as a kick returner before the defenders are all over you, and the ball comes in at a different trajectory. I think a punt returner needs to be more elusive than a kick returner. And for the millionth time Devin Thomas did not return punts in college or in the preseason.

Meks · 11-18-2008, 02:54 PM

^ he did return punts in college, just not full time.

and Moss cannot do it full-time either... it's too risky and will wear him down also

Mattyk · 11-18-2008, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Meks

^ he did return punts in college, just not full time.

and Moss cannot do it full-time either... it's too risky and will wear him down also

You're right, he had 8 punt returns in college.

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irish · 11-18-2008, 03:32 PM

Anything would be an upgrade over ARE. He doesnt return punts well and isnt much of a WR. Now that I think of it, it seems that he doesnt do much of anything well except shuck & jive after one of his rare catches.

hail_2_da_skins · 11-18-2008, 03:44 PM

In general the blocking on the Redskins special teams is pretty good. Seams are opening up and it takes Randle-El too long to get there. If he would quit dancing around and hit it up in there, he would be more effective. I'm not expecting a return for touchdown everytime, but maximize the returns. An extra 10 for 15 yards can mean the difference between the team having to punt after their three and outs or attempt a long field goal after three and out.

redskin37 · 11-18-2008, 03:50 PM

Why can't Rock handle kickoff and punt returns?

11-18-2008, 02:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
hail_2_da_skins Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 787	Deangelo Hall For Punt Returner! I'm tired of seeing Antwaan Randle-El doing a two-step every time he runs a punt return. The good punt returners, catch the ball and go straight up field and attack the on coming defenders. By running straight up field, they force the defenders to have to break down and prepare to make a tackle in either direction. When Randle-El does his two-step, the defender can go right at him and take him down. He is not making anyone miss and gaining very few yards after he fields the punt. Deangelo Hall was a very good punt returner for the Atlanta Falcons. I know he wants to make an impression on this team. What do you guys think about having him field some punts? Santana Moss showed that there are big plays to be made in the punt return. I don't like Moss back there because it increases his chances of getting injured and the Skins cannot afford to lose their best receiver. __________________ "HAIL TO THE SKINS"

11-18-2008, 02:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
TheMalcolmConnection Assistant Commander of Kool-Aid Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Posts: 15,540	Re: Deangelo Hall For Punt Returner! I don't know. The way it's been with Springs they can't afford to lose another corner either. __________________ hide yo kids, hide yo wife, and hide yo husband 'cause they rapin' e'rybody out here.

11-18-2008, 02:28 PM	#3 (permalink)
Meks Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 763	Re: Deangelo Hall For Punt Returner! i say devin thomas honestly. __________________ NFL officiating is BY FAR the worst in proffessional sports.

11-18-2008, 02:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
hail_2_da_skins Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 787	Re: Deangelo Hall For Punt Returner! I don't recall the Skins giving Devin Thomas a chance to run back punts in preseason. They tried Mason and Tryon, I don't remember Thomas getting a chance. I know he did it in college. I wouldn't be opposed to Thomas, I'm kinda frustrated with Randle-El. __________________ "HAIL TO THE SKINS"

11-18-2008, 02:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
MiraclesHappen07 Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Richlands, Va Posts: 318	Re: Deangelo Hall For Punt Returner! Honestly may not matter who we put back there __________________ Resistance is futile, The Burgundy and Gold are coming!!! "Football can like a box of chocolates, nevers know what your gona get any given sunday"-From zach williams, revised verison from Forest Gump

11-18-2008, 02:41 PM	#7 (permalink)
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11-18-2008, 02:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
BrunellMVP? Uncommon Sense Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 716	Re: Deangelo Hall For Punt Returner! see Santana Moss v Detroit 2008... __________________ in writing these daily letters and trying to make them interesting it is always possible that some sentiment may occur which has not received the severe and deliberate scrutiny and reconsideration which should attach to a State Paper. - Churchill

11-18-2008, 02:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
SmootSmack Gaius Appuleius Diocles Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 31,008	Re: Deangelo Hall For Punt Returner! I wish I truly understood what is so remarkably different about punt returning and kick returning that Rock couldn't do both. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You sideline reports

11-18-2008, 02:50 PM	#10 (permalink)
Mattyk Administrator Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 48,771	Re: Deangelo Hall For Punt Returner! As a punt returner you don't have the time that you do as a kick returner before the defenders are all over you, and the ball comes in at a different trajectory. I think a punt returner needs to be more elusive than a kick returner. And for the millionth time Devin Thomas did not return punts in college or in the preseason. __________________ Warpath VIP \| Warpath Shop

11-18-2008, 02:54 PM	#11 (permalink)
Meks Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 763	Re: Deangelo Hall For Punt Returner! ^ he did return punts in college, just not full time. and Moss cannot do it full-time either... it's too risky and will wear him down also __________________ NFL officiating is BY FAR the worst in proffessional sports.

11-18-2008, 03:32 PM	#13 (permalink)
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,680	Re: Deangelo Hall For Punt Returner! Anything would be an upgrade over ARE. He doesnt return punts well and isnt much of a WR. Now that I think of it, it seems that he doesnt do much of anything well except shuck & jive after one of his rare catches.

11-18-2008, 03:44 PM	#14 (permalink)
hail_2_da_skins Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 787	Re: Deangelo Hall For Punt Returner! In general the blocking on the Redskins special teams is pretty good. Seams are opening up and it takes Randle-El too long to get there. If he would quit dancing around and hit it up in there, he would be more effective. I'm not expecting a return for touchdown everytime, but maximize the returns. An extra 10 for 15 yards can mean the difference between the team having to punt after their three and outs or attempt a long field goal after three and out. __________________ "HAIL TO THE SKINS"

11-18-2008, 03:50 PM	#15 (permalink)
redskin37 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Oneida N.Y Posts: 101	Re: Deangelo Hall For Punt Returner! Why can't Rock handle kickoff and punt returns?

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