Frost AVAILABLE! Who's in!?

Luxorreb · 12-02-2008, 05:01 AM

I say bring back FROST! Supposedly Green Bay is dropping him!

McCarthy's day-after press conference: Panthers game - JSOnline

McCarthy's day-after press conference: Panthers game
By Greg A. Bedard of the Journal Sentinel
Dec. 1, 2008

Green Bay - Mike McCarthy has started his press conference:

* Derrick Frost will be released today. The Packers don't even have a replacement ready. That's how bad they want him out.
* Matt Flynn will be the holder.
* McCarthy said injuries have not been a deciding factor as to the peformance of the special teams
* The team will spend a lot of time on special teams this week.
* McCarthy knew Scott Wells had a concussion after the fumble.
* McCarthy does not regret the playcall to John Kuhn because the linebackers were in pass coverage.
* He did think a lot about going for it on fourth down. They would have run it again: same play as the second-down play.
* McCarthy said the performance of the special teams has "been way out of bounds" in regards to the other team.
* Meeting today will be spent on what has gone wrong.
* Ryan Grant is still the starter. Jackson may get some more carries.
* Kenny Pettway had a ligament tear and is likely out for the seaosn.
* Bigby has a shoulder sprain.
* Nick Collins has a hip contusion and may miss a couple days.
* I don't think I've ever seen our defense give up rushing touchdowns like that.
* "I liked what I saw in our secondary," McCarthy said about Woodson.
* Nick Collins did "not make a huge mistake" on the first Steve Smith reception. Looked like Collins jumped a crossing route on the play.
* McCarthy didn't want to say whether releasing Jon Ryan was a mistake. "I don't want to go there."
* Why are the Packers 1-4 in close games compared to 5-1 last year? "The quarterback is just one position. It's certainly important but it's just one position...I don't recall being in three-point games and having minus-200 in field position last year either. I think it's convenient criticism (one changing QB). I think our quarterback position has played at a high level this season. I don't think it's been a question at all."

Luxorreb · 12-02-2008, 05:08 AM

I say bring back Frost and try out Tony Zendejas!

Daseal · 12-02-2008, 06:53 AM

No thanks.

Monkeydad · 12-02-2008, 10:33 AM

Wow, they think he's so bad that they'd rather go without a punter at all (for now) than call him their guy.

PennSkinsFan · 12-02-2008, 10:37 AM

Nope. I am ok with Plack for the rest of the season, not Suisham, but lack has been fine. Quite frankly, punter is the least of our concerns.

Paintrain · 12-02-2008, 10:56 AM

Hmm, wonder what JLC has to say about this one?

steveo395 · 12-02-2008, 11:54 AM

There is a reason he was cut by two teams within a couple of months.

dmek25 · 12-02-2008, 12:25 PM

explain to me why in the world you want that bum back?

wilsowilso · 12-02-2008, 12:40 PM

Our special teams coaches sure know how to bring in some talent. Bravo! Our punter competition this year was between two players that couldn't make a single NFL roster and the replacement Ryan(Value Meal) Wackemeier is just as bad.

Southpaw · 12-02-2008, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by wilsowilso

Our punter competition this year was between two players that couldn't make a single NFL roster and the replacement Ryan(Value Meal) Wackemeier is just as bad.

Plack is plenty servicable. He'd look a lot better if the gunners weren't allergic to downing the ball BEFORE it hit's the endzone.

Jake2008 · 12-02-2008, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Southpaw

Plack is plenty servicable. He'd look a lot better if the gunners weren't allergic to downing the ball BEFORE it hit's the endzone.

Ya I have seen at least 3 punts that could have easily been pinned down at the 3 yard line or less if not for our gaffes. Heck the one he basically had the ball resting on the 1 yard line before Rock came flying in and jumped on it like it was a landmine and rolled into the endzone.

ArtMonkDrillz · 12-02-2008, 04:15 PM

Plac seems a little shaky on the holds for field goal attempts. Other than that, I think he's been just fine as our punter.

Random question: how is it that no kicker has figured out how to be both a team's placekicker and punter? I would think that with every roster spot being so valuable a team (especially one like the Patriots) who try to find a guy who can do both in order to save a spot. Are they really so different that one guy can't spend his time getting good at both?

hooskins · 12-02-2008, 04:31 PM

Plack is a bit slow, but we just need to make sure we execute protection well and we are fine. Suisham is a big problem IMO, but Zorn said he isn't looking for any competition right now.

hooskins · 12-02-2008, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

Plac seems a little shaky on the holds for field goal attempts. Other than that, I think he's been just fine as our punter.

Random question: how is it that no kicker has figured out how to be both a team's placekicker and punter? I would think that with every roster spot being so valuable a team (especially one like the Patriots) who try to find a guy who can do both in order to save a spot. Are they really so different that one guy can't spend his time getting good at both?

I figure the motions and skills required are very different. Times in the past I think the Skins have had the punter play as the kicker(or vice versa?) when there was an injury. The results weren't too great.

But yea I don't see why they wouldn't try to do both. Maybe there is some kind of secret K/PR guild union to maximize jobs.

ArtMonkDrillz · 12-02-2008, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hooskins

I figure the motions and skills required are very different. Times in the past I think the Skins have had the punter play as the kicker(or vice versa?) when there was an injury. The results weren't too great.

But yea I don't see why they wouldn't try to do both. Maybe there is some kind of secret K/PR guild union to maximize jobs.

No doubt it would take extra work on the kickers part. I don't expect that even the best kicker could just start punting any time. I'm just wondering if its something we'll start to see in the future.

Do you think the secret K/PR guild is in any way connected to the tribe of jockeys that live under most race tracks?

12-02-2008, 05:01 AM	#1
Luxorreb ^21^ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 1,615	Frost AVAILABLE! Who's in!? I say bring back FROST! Supposedly Green Bay is dropping him! McCarthy's day-after press conference: Panthers game - JSOnline McCarthy's day-after press conference: Panthers game By Greg A. Bedard of the Journal Sentinel Dec. 1, 2008 Green Bay - Mike McCarthy has started his press conference: * Derrick Frost will be released today. The Packers don't even have a replacement ready. That's how bad they want him out. * Matt Flynn will be the holder. * McCarthy said injuries have not been a deciding factor as to the peformance of the special teams * The team will spend a lot of time on special teams this week. * McCarthy knew Scott Wells had a concussion after the fumble. * McCarthy does not regret the playcall to John Kuhn because the linebackers were in pass coverage. * He did think a lot about going for it on fourth down. They would have run it again: same play as the second-down play. * McCarthy said the performance of the special teams has "been way out of bounds" in regards to the other team. * Meeting today will be spent on what has gone wrong. * Ryan Grant is still the starter. Jackson may get some more carries. * Kenny Pettway had a ligament tear and is likely out for the seaosn. * Bigby has a shoulder sprain. * Nick Collins has a hip contusion and may miss a couple days. * I don't think I've ever seen our defense give up rushing touchdowns like that. * "I liked what I saw in our secondary," McCarthy said about Woodson. * Nick Collins did "not make a huge mistake" on the first Steve Smith reception. Looked like Collins jumped a crossing route on the play. * McCarthy didn't want to say whether releasing Jon Ryan was a mistake. "I don't want to go there." * Why are the Packers 1-4 in close games compared to 5-1 last year? "The quarterback is just one position. It's certainly important but it's just one position...I don't recall being in three-point games and having minus-200 in field position last year either. I think it's convenient criticism (one changing QB). I think our quarterback position has played at a high level this season. I don't think it's been a question at all." __________________ GO SKINS!!! ^21^

12-02-2008, 05:08 AM	#2
Luxorreb ^21^ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 1,615	Re: Frost AVAILABLE! Who's in!? I say bring back Frost and try out Tony Zendejas! __________________ GO SKINS!!! ^21^

12-02-2008, 06:53 AM	#3
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 33 Posts: 8,307	Re: Frost AVAILABLE! Who's in!? No thanks. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

12-02-2008, 10:33 AM	#4
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12-02-2008, 10:56 AM	#6
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12-02-2008, 11:54 AM	#7
steveo395 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,674	Re: Frost AVAILABLE! Who's in!? There is a reason he was cut by two teams within a couple of months. __________________

12-02-2008, 12:25 PM	#8
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12-02-2008, 12:40 PM	#9
wilsowilso Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Age: 42 Posts: 2,841	Re: Frost AVAILABLE! Who's in!? Our special teams coaches sure know how to bring in some talent. Bravo! Our punter competition this year was between two players that couldn't make a single NFL roster and the replacement Ryan(Value Meal) Wackemeier is just as bad.

12-02-2008, 04:15 PM	#12
ArtMonkDrillz Franchise Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ellicott City, MD Age: 33 Posts: 8,030	Re: Frost AVAILABLE! Who's in!? Plac seems a little shaky on the holds for field goal attempts. Other than that, I think he's been just fine as our punter. Random question: how is it that no kicker has figured out how to be both a team's placekicker and punter? I would think that with every roster spot being so valuable a team (especially one like the Patriots) who try to find a guy who can do both in order to save a spot. Are they really so different that one guy can't spend his time getting good at both? __________________ "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." The Dude

12-02-2008, 04:31 PM	#13
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 29 Posts: 8,606	Re: Frost AVAILABLE! Who's in!? Plack is a bit slow, but we just need to make sure we execute protection well and we are fine. Suisham is a big problem IMO, but Zorn said he isn't looking for any competition right now. __________________ Vacancy

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