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Old 12-09-2008, 02:34 PM   #16
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re: D.C. Examiner: Zorn's job in jeopardy? (not so fast he's coming back)

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We should put a "?" after jeopardy in the thread title. It's a bit misleading. The article suggests that Snyder is frustrated with the team (i.e. the "honeymoon is over" comment), but offers nothing to back up the notion that Zorn's job is in jeopardy.

It's totally speculative, not definitive as the thread title suggests. I just don't want to see a bunch of freak out type posts.

The title of the article, after all, is "Zorn's job in jeopardy?"
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Old 12-09-2008, 02:36 PM   #17
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re: D.C. Examiner: Zorn's job in jeopardy? (not so fast he's coming back)

Oh no. Here we go....Bring in Bill Cowher.
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Old 12-09-2008, 02:36 PM   #18
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I hope it's not true, but it wouldn't surprise me at all. Let's face it guys no matter what you've heard JZ was not our 1st, 2nd or 3rd pick. It was most likely Cowher, Spags, Fassel-prior to the fan uprising. A bad ending to this season in combination w/ the possible availability of Cowher could mean changes again.

But listen, our issues go alot deeper than JZ. Our organization may need an overhaul soon, starting at the top.

If there are changes, I would hope that there are some wholesale changes and not just the coach. I want to see if JZ can right this but if not some serious consideration should go to Jim Schwartz of Tenn. We interviewed him last year. BC wouldn't come here w/out some sort of final say on personel. Jim Fassel would be our next coach for sure. OMG.
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Old 12-09-2008, 02:39 PM   #19
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re: D.C. Examiner: Zorn's job in jeopardy? (not so fast he's coming back)

Man, if you thought this offense doesn't attack downfield with deep passes enough, just wait for what Bill Cowher will do.

Prepare yourself for 'three yards and a cloud of dust' excitement with his offensive philosophy.
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Old 12-09-2008, 02:39 PM   #20
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We should put a "?" after jeopardy in the thread title. It's a bit misleading. The article suggests that Snyder is frustrated with the team (i.e. the "honeymoon is over" comment), but offers nothing to back up the notion that Zorn's job is in jeopardy.

It's totally speculative, not definitive as the thread title suggests. I just don't want to see a bunch of freak out type posts.

The title of the article, after all, is "Zorn's job in jeopardy?"
No doubt stirring things up a little. We're frustrated. DS's frustrated. JZ is frustrated. The players are frustrated.

Unfortunately when the Danny is frustrated sometimes heads roll. See Norv Turner.
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Old 12-09-2008, 02:42 PM   #21
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re: D.C. Examiner: Zorn's job in jeopardy? (not so fast he's coming back)

Hey just for the record, the word "jeopardy" itself implies a question -- not a certainty -- that Zorn may lose his job if they don't finish 9-7.

Also for the record, I just don't think this story is as ridiculous as we all hope it is.
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Old 12-09-2008, 02:43 PM   #22
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DS may have to come out w/ the dreaded, coach killing vote of confidence.
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Actually I'd agree. Losing to the Bengals and Niners would seal it for me.

If I'm the owner, and while I was interviewing you, if you said to me that you'd take a 9-7 team from the previous season and go 7-9 this year, I would not have hired you.

But Zorn's not that guy, I don't think. I think we'll beat those two teams and go 9-7. He'll deserve another shot next year. But again, playing owner, I'd fully expect his passing game to make major improvement in 2009.
C'mon. Firing a rookie head coach in his first year when he's trying to implement his new offense is just stupid. Really stupid. I have some issues with Zorn but he needs time. Even if we lost to SF and Cinn. And losing to SF is a real possibility. They're playing better than we are. We simply don't have players and that's not Zorn's fault. Maybe Snyder needs to look at his butt buddy Vinny. But I doubt this story is true.
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Old 12-09-2008, 02:52 PM   #24
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The absolute worst thing that Snyder could right now is revert to being the panicky fan he was before Gibbs came along and dismiss Zorn after this season. Yeah, we're 1-4 in our last 5 games. But we were also 6-2 in our first 8 games. We're talking about a first year head coach. He deserves a chance to improve on season one. I think all first time head coaches deserve that shot. Zorn wasn't my choice necessarily for head coach, but he doesn't deserve to get dismissed.

As for Cowher...I don't see it happening. I think he's going to Dallas if anywhere
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I couldn't stand that amount of turnover anymore. So what we are all saying is a man only gets one year, and doesn't get to add any of his players essentially, who is a rookie head coach and has to go through tons of growing processes himself, who took a team to what might be a winning season, the axe in one year?

I Just couldn't handle it

And please don't just pin point your thoughts on how we aren't going to have a winning season this year and we are going to lose the last 3. That is not the point of this post.
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Brilliant!
This Front Office never ceases to amaze me. One step forward, two steps back.
Do they have mirrors in the owner and GM's bathrooms? They never accept any of the blame. It is always someone else's fault. The only constant besides the losing is Snyderatto. It is time for Vinny to be judged.
This is not a coaching problem, it is a personnel problem. We have the oldest team in the NFL. I wonder why our offensive and defensive lines get run over?
From your post it sounds like you have inside information that this is actually true and that it could be some dumb rumor someone started.
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Old 12-09-2008, 03:03 PM   #27
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Zorn, should go down or ought to go down as the first HC ever to be an interim first year HC before the season started. His responsibilities going into this year were too over whelming and way above his pay grade and initial application.

I would hope we could either down grade him as Offensive Coordinator, but at the same time I preach continuity and being able to solidify our leadership and not this carousel of direction we are supposed to be heading.

It seems Cowher would never be interested in us. Where are we gonna find a guy worthy of us and better yet would want to keep Zorn as Off Coord.???

In Baltimore, they have Cameron for Off. and Ryan for Def. their HC Harboraugh is simply just a lifeguard watching over the 2 sides not really even messing with them. He simply is the front man who does interviews to the media and is supervisor for his staff.

Zorn posseses great character but I haven't seen the players seem to be declining their approval of him by the week. I wish Snyder/Cerrato could evaluate the talent/ team we have and be able to bring coaches/players in that work around them rather than entities that falsely build hype which fuels his product being merchandised.

I like how all of our problems are reflections of poor Mgt. but all they do is temporarily disguise it or temporarily sweep it under the rug. History seems to repeat it self again in DC.
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Old 12-09-2008, 03:05 PM   #28
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You know I wouldn't put it pass my boy snyder. Zorn is like an Interim coach but just for the whole season. He wasn't the first second third or fourth pick for Snyder. So don't be shocked if a coach with real head coach credit turn Snyders attention back to the one we all know and loathe.
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I don't know what pisses me off more, the fact that this guys wrote the article, or the talk of a new coach again.

Anyone know when Ping Pong comes on T.V, I bet all 8 of the fans don't have to deal with this shit.
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According to sources inside Redskin Park, the honeymoon is over:

www.dcexaminer.com >> Sports

Would this be that big of a surprise if true?
And yes it would be a huge surprise, because it would mean that the Skins really have no hope of ever having stability. Everyone has said Snyder learned from Gibbs, so changing after 1 relatively successful season, regardless of these last 3 games.
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