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Old 01-05-2009, 01:55 PM   #31
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Old 01-05-2009, 02:00 PM   #32
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You need to start a team from the top down to the players. Our FO just pays people who they think will make revenue for the franchise they don't care if Portis calls out the Head Coach. If we had a no nonsense guy like Parcells we would see alot more playoff births and wins than being a 500 team.
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Old 01-05-2009, 02:47 PM   #33
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The Redskins didn't score more than 30 points once this year. Not a single time. It's important to have balance. All the teams you listed with high powered throwing attacks, don't have anything remotely resembling a running game. However, the run teams you listed are all able to pass the ball VERY effectively. Having a run game helps, but having a TRUE #1 WR helps a ton too. Keeps them from stacking the box every play.

Like it or not, this makes the Giants radically different with and without Plaxico Burress.
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The Redskins didn't score more than 30 points once this year. Not a single time. It's important to have balance. All the teams you listed with high powered throwing attacks, don't have anything remotely resembling a running game. However, the run teams you listed are all able to pass the ball VERY effectively. Having a run game helps, but having a TRUE #1 WR helps a ton too. Keeps them from stacking the box every play.

Like it or not, this makes the Giants radically different with and without Plaxico Burress.
Radically? That's debatable. The Giants had good games without him. They scored 44 against the Seahawks (and only beat the Bengals 26-23 in OT with him) and scored 34 against Carolina. In fact, his only 100 yard game was against the Skins in week 1 when they scored 16 points. His best game after week 2 was 4 catches for 58 yards against Cleveland. I know he draws coverage, but the Giants are still a good team, running AND passing, without him and it won't surprise anyone if they still win it all.

Now watch them go out and lay an egg against the Eagles

I wouldn't describe Carolina's or Minnesota's passing games as VERY effective either. Their passing games were credible and it was impossible to make either of them one dimensional (Eli killed us when we held the run in check).

And I'm not sure a "true" #1 WR is all that important. The Chargers, Ravens and Eagles looked pretty good without one. As much as I'd like to have a top WR, I think there's better places to spend money. There are a lot of top WRs who didn't make the playoffs this year or probably won't be going that far - (Andre Johnson, Randy Moss, TO, Wes Welker, Roddy White, Greg Jennings, Brandon Marshall, Reggie Wayne, etc.). I think it's more important to spread the ball around (WRs, TEs, Backs, etc.), so the offense can still function if any single player is taken out.

We heard all year long that Moss was being double teamed downfield. If so, why not design more plays underneath to the RBs? McNabb had a 71 yard TD pass on a 5 yard dump off yesterday and Sproles and Cobbs had big plays in the passing game for SD and Miami.

I think the Skins could have had a better passing offense with better coaching and better play calling.

But in the end you're right. It takes balance.
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Old 01-05-2009, 04:32 PM   #35
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Yardage given up doesn't mean that much. If you have say an above average D yardage wise, but they are #1 in takeaways, that D will be more effective in getting your team to the playoffs than a D that has the lowestYPG allowed and few turnovers. Just look at Greg Williams' defenses, pretty good with the YPG allowed, but generated few turnovers. Blache's D this season was just as bad almost with the lack of turnovers, which really hurts since our offense turned anemic after the bye.
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Old 01-05-2009, 04:36 PM   #36
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How about, "What if we had Flacco"? He would have sucked playing for the Skins and probably wouldn't have made it through the season in tact.

Flacco just has moxy and poise, not much talent. He doesn't show any hesitation about running with it if everyone is covered. Wish JC could do that. I rather have the young Gus Frerotte back than Flacco.
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Radically? That's debatable. The Giants had good games without him. They scored 44 against the Seahawks (and only beat the Bengals 26-23 in OT with him) and scored 34 against Carolina. In fact, his only 100 yard game was against the Skins in week 1 when they scored 16 points. His best game after week 2 was 4 catches for 58 yards against Cleveland. I know he draws coverage, but the Giants are still a good team, running AND passing, without him and it won't surprise anyone if they still win it all.

Now watch them go out and lay an egg against the Eagles

I wouldn't describe Carolina's or Minnesota's passing games as VERY effective either. Their passing games were credible and it was impossible to make either of them one dimensional (Eli killed us when we held the run in check).

And I'm not sure a "true" #1 WR is all that important. The Chargers, Ravens and Eagles looked pretty good without one. As much as I'd like to have a top WR, I think there's better places to spend money. There are a lot of top WRs who didn't make the playoffs this year or probably won't be going that far - (Andre Johnson, Randy Moss, TO, Wes Welker, Roddy White, Greg Jennings, Brandon Marshall, Reggie Wayne, etc.). I think it's more important to spread the ball around (WRs, TEs, Backs, etc.), so the offense can still function if any single player is taken out.

We heard all year long that Moss was being double teamed downfield. If so, why not design more plays underneath to the RBs? McNabb had a 71 yard TD pass on a 5 yard dump off yesterday and Sproles and Cobbs had big plays in the passing game for SD and Miami.

I think the Skins could have had a better passing offense with better coaching and better play calling.

But in the end you're right. It takes balance.
Shit, Minnesota doesn't have a passing game dude!!! Jackson can't take any heat at tall and makes too many mistakes. When your best QB is an old journeyman QB like Frerotte is now, you are screwed. Tarvis Jackson is going to be seen as a major bust. My advice to Minnesota is to draft a Qb with their first pick. Maybe the kid from Missouri will be available for them.
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Old 01-05-2009, 04:49 PM   #38
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I do not care what the stats tell you, here is the truth.

If you score more points than your opponent, then you win.

If you prevent them from scoring more points than you, then you win.

Note 1: It does not matter if you did it by running the ball, passing the ball, or returning the ball as long as you score points and keep the other team out of the endzone.

Note 2: If you do these things better than 20 other teams, then you will make the playoffs.


Let me ask you a question, what do the experts say if SD were to win the SB? They didn't finish top 5 in any category so the whole theory would go to crap.

SD only made the playoffs because of the crappy division they are in and the complete collapse of the Broncos. They are playing their best football now and getting on a hot streak happens to all good teams, it just depends on when you hit it.

But you can't argue with the general results. Yes there will always be some exceptions, but in general it has been proven time and again that defense wins championships.
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Old 01-05-2009, 05:18 PM   #39
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Flacco just has moxy and poise, not much talent. He doesn't show any hesitation about running with it if everyone is covered. Wish JC could do that. I rather have the young Gus Frerotte back than Flacco.
Flacco has an elite defense that scores points and wins games, he has a good and solid offensive line that protects him, has a running game that spreads out the carries among its RBs, and he has had a bit of luck in those runs that he has made.

If you were to switch JC and Flacco, you would have the same results. For the umpteenth time, it is not about JC. He's not perfect, but switching QBs won't fix the crappy offensive line, won't stop Moss or ARE from dropping passes, won't change the fact that our HC/QB Coach/Play Caller maybe have bitten more than he can chew,
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