How would you change the overtime rules?

an23dy · 01-08-2009, 07:53 PM

I like the idea with the other team getting one possession after the other team scores, but only if it's on the first possession. This would also be good for the NFL and TV people so that the running over time within the 3 hour time slot problem doesn't become a big factor in stopping them from fixing the problem.

djnemo65 · 01-08-2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I still think most teams would choose to receive though because if one possession for each team can't decide it, it becomes sudden death, but now they have the ball.

I tend to like this idea simply because it takes a lot of the meaning out of the coin toss, which is the only real problem. Because let's face it: the overtime rules are very, very fair before the coin toss occurs. It's just that the toss decides a fair amount of games, a few more than we would like in overtime. It's not an omnipresent issue obviously, but if we can de-emphasize the coin toss in OT, I'm all for a change.

I don't agree that teams would elect to receive, because by kicking you are getting all of the potential field-position advantages of going on defense first, being able to make a stop or turnover to force a shortfield, while removing all of the risk of getting scored on. It's a win/win.

And just because a team scores on their first possession I don't think you can say the toss decided the game. I think the defense that got whipped has a little bit to do with it as well.

firstdown · 01-08-2009, 08:09 PM

I'm having trouble typing this as my 2 year old daughter just wants to see the top of the page with the four players in skins unifom. She is hooked on the skins stuff and every morning she gets out her skins sweet shirt. So I guess I have to scroll back to the top of the page because she is getting mad.

WaldSkins · 01-08-2009, 08:11 PM

They should do it soccer style. 5 players from each team try to kick field goals from the 20 yard line. I would love to see Cooley out there trying to kick a field goal(lmao).

Ruhskins · 01-08-2009, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by WaldSkins

They should do it soccer style. 5 players from each team try to kick field goals from the 20 yard line. I would love to see Cooley out there trying to kick a field goal(lmao).

Even better, they should make the defensive tackles and offensive linemen kick the field goals. Can you imagine the Red Snapper trying to kick a field goal? I'd be f'ing hilarious!!

WaldSkins · 01-08-2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Even better, they should make the defensive tackles and offensive linemen kick the field goals. Can you imagine the Red Snapper trying to kick a field goal? I'd be f'ing hilarious!!

Can't be any worse then Suisham

Coff · 01-08-2009, 08:20 PM

People have a tendency of wanting to overhaul things that aren't entirely perfect. It's how we wound up with the BCS system. Statistically, there is no statistical advantage to the coin flip. About 51% of the teams that win the flip wind up winning the game. The solution would probably be worse than the problem; like the college overtime for example, which is even more unfair as the team that has the ball second doesn't have any difficult decisions to make.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 01-08-2009, 08:33 PM

get rid of overtime all together

Hogroll · 01-08-2009, 08:35 PM

FYI...

From the 2000 through 2007 regular seasons, there have been 124 overtime games. In every single game except one (I believe), the team that won the toss elected to receive. And those receiving teams won 60% of the time (and tied once). That's a relatively large advantage, particularly when compared to home field advantage.

Home teams have only won 51% of OT games. The weakness of HFA isn't too surprising given the way it diminishes throughout a game. It's strongest in the 1st quarter and then diminishes through subsequent quarters until it's almost non-existent in OT. Fans are presumably at their most involved at this point in a game, which suggests crowd involvement is not the primary source of HFA.

I got that from here: Advanced NFL Stats: How Important is the Coin Flip in OT?

WaldSkins · 01-08-2009, 08:57 PM

Just play a 5th quarter

tryfuhl · 01-08-2009, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GoSkins!

We saw it in the Colts/Bolts game. The team that wins the coin flip gets to put their offense up against a tired defense and easily win the game. The other teams offense never has a chance to answer.

I've thought about it, looked at how college does it (don't really like that), and decided on a radically new idea: Keep the current NFL format with one major exception. The defense can also win the game if they force a turnover.

Now both sides have a big incentive to play aggresive. The defenses don't have to decide to just play prevent defense and offenses have to think twice before just heaving up the ball and hoping for a lucky pass interference or miracle catch.

What is your idea?

Sorry but a turnover isn't as spectacular as a TD to show victory. I say play another quarter, maybe shortened. I doubt that'd ever happen considering more potential for injuries due to the playing time as well as being tired.

Maybe a kickoff like usual; if the first team gets a TD, the second team has to match that.. same with FGs, but a TD would win over a FG.. if the first team scores and the 2nd team doesnt, game over.. and vice versa

forget that give the ball at the 25 or whatever

tryfuhl · 01-08-2009, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

Let both teams have the ball on offense. If the team that wins the toss drives down and scores, the other team should have a chance to match it. If not, game over. So similar to college rules I guess, only none of this starting from the 25 yard line BS. I think that's so dumb.

Although I think Dungy made a good argument for keeping it like it is- he said something along the lines of defense and offense both being equal parts of a football team, and both line up 11 men. If the team that goes on defense first in OT ends up losing, it's becuase their D didn't make the necessary plays. If the team that goes on offense first loses, it's because the O didn't make the necessary plays.

heh, guess i should've read first

I can see Dungy's point, but a 50yd field goal isn't a spectacular drive and the other team should get the chance to do the same

44ever · 01-08-2009, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

get rid of overtime all together

Never considered this. Brilliant idea!

tryfuhl · 01-08-2009, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

I'm having trouble typing this as my 2 year old daughter just wants to see the top of the page with the four players in skins unifom. She is hooked on the skins stuff and every morning she gets out her skins sweet shirt. So I guess I have to scroll back to the top of the page because she is getting mad.

buy her some bobbleheads or mcfarlane toys

tryfuhl · 01-08-2009, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

get rid of overtime all together

what about in the playoffs?

we should consult mcnabb.. he's probably wondering what will happen if they tie.. round robin with the next team

01-08-2009, 07:53 PM	#31 (permalink)
an23dy Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 159	Re: How would you change the overtime rules? I like the idea with the other team getting one possession after the other team scores, but only if it's on the first possession. This would also be good for the NFL and TV people so that the running over time within the 3 hour time slot problem doesn't become a big factor in stopping them from fixing the problem.

01-08-2009, 08:09 PM	#33 (permalink)
firstdown Franchise Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Posts: 8,780	Re: How would you change the overtime rules? I'm having trouble typing this as my 2 year old daughter just wants to see the top of the page with the four players in skins unifom. She is hooked on the skins stuff and every morning she gets out her skins sweet shirt. So I guess I have to scroll back to the top of the page because she is getting mad.

01-08-2009, 08:11 PM	#34 (permalink)
WaldSkins The Starter Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harrisburg, PA Posts: 2,315	Re: How would you change the overtime rules? They should do it soccer style. 5 players from each team try to kick field goals from the 20 yard line. I would love to see Cooley out there trying to kick a field goal(lmao). __________________ "I would change that around, Jesus isn't Cutler. I guarantee you Jesus couldnt thread the ball like Jay does."-Monksdown Laron Landry is about as good as a FS as Brian Orakpo is at LB.

01-08-2009, 08:20 PM	#37 (permalink)
Coff Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 273	Re: How would you change the overtime rules? People have a tendency of wanting to overhaul things that aren't entirely perfect. It's how we wound up with the BCS system. Statistically, there is no statistical advantage to the coin flip. About 51% of the teams that win the flip wind up winning the game. The solution would probably be worse than the problem; like the college overtime for example, which is even more unfair as the team that has the ball second doesn't have any difficult decisions to make.

01-08-2009, 08:33 PM	#38 (permalink)
EARTHQUAKE2689 Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Whizzing behind a bush Posts: 7,166	Re: How would you change the overtime rules? get rid of overtime all together __________________ *If all the raindrops were lemondrops and gumdrops oh how the earth would dry up and die*

01-08-2009, 08:35 PM	#39 (permalink)
Hogroll Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cecil-tucky, MD Posts: 262	Re: How would you change the overtime rules? FYI... From the 2000 through 2007 regular seasons, there have been 124 overtime games. In every single game except one (I believe), the team that won the toss elected to receive. And those receiving teams won 60% of the time (and tied once). That's a relatively large advantage, particularly when compared to home field advantage. Home teams have only won 51% of OT games. The weakness of HFA isn't too surprising given the way it diminishes throughout a game. It's strongest in the 1st quarter and then diminishes through subsequent quarters until it's almost non-existent in OT. Fans are presumably at their most involved at this point in a game, which suggests crowd involvement is not the primary source of HFA. I got that from here: Advanced NFL Stats: How Important is the Coin Flip in OT? __________________ Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein. *- Joe Theismann*

01-08-2009, 08:57 PM	#40 (permalink)
WaldSkins The Starter Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harrisburg, PA Posts: 2,315	Re: How would you change the overtime rules? Just play a 5th quarter __________________ "I would change that around, Jesus isn't Cutler. I guarantee you Jesus couldnt thread the ball like Jay does."-Monksdown Laron Landry is about as good as a FS as Brian Orakpo is at LB.

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