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calia · 01-09-2009, 01:21 PM

If anyone has the right to complain (and if they do, it should not be publicly), it is the members of our defense.

Slingin Sammy 33 · 01-09-2009, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

2. That said, he's 100% correct. The reason we were so successful running the ball (and winning games) is because in the first half of the season, we were still using the Joe Gibbs running game. Starting 6-2 was -more than anything else- a carry-over from the system Joe Gibbs installed. The new passing game Zorn installed here was down right horrible. The one thing working for our offense was the running game -- and Zorn decided to start messing with it. Zorn is an idiot.

Factually wrong. Zorn's playcalling and Campbell's ability to avoid negative plays saved what could've been even more disastarous of a second half of the season. Zorn really only made a few bad playcalls IMO, the Sellers Goalline plays and a few others. I guess the timely screens and draws that were successful were terrible playcalls.....

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1.This is a 6-10 team (at best) next year.
2. Zorn will be fired.
3. Vinny will be fired. (He said in an interview Snyder was only giving he and Zorn two years to right the ship).
4. Next year, at this time, Synder will attempt to hire BIll Cowher to a 12-15M per year annual contract to be our head coach/team president/general manager. Unfortunately, He will probably be beat out by Jerry Jones. There is no logical reason for Jones to have not fired Wade Phillips by now - none. the only reason he still has a job is because Jones wants Cowher and is keeping the team intact until then.
5. If Snyder can't outbid Jones in landing Cowher, plan B will be to hire Mike Holmgren as our GM and Mike Shanahan as our Head coach. This is actually may be a better situation for the skins anyway. Shanahan/Holmgren live and breathe the WCO, so we wouldn't have to change to a brand new offensive system again. They are also offensive guys so they would probably be fine leaving the defensive system in tact - our team would have far greater continuity with a Holmgren/Shanahan combo than by bringing in anyone else.

1. Wrong
2. Wrong
3. Wrong
4. What has the chin done that's so incredible? He had remarkable support from ownership, good talent, weak division and one SB in 15 years. He'll be out of football two years next year.
5. What has Shanahan after the two SBs (post-Elway)? Support from ownership, good talent, weak division, nothing to show for it.

How about we stop trying to pin blame on one or two people (Snyder, Cerrato, Zorn, Campbell). We have flaws that will not be fixed in one year. Maybe we should focus on rebuilding the OL & DL and developing the talent and system we have in place. There is no miracle owner/GM/coach/player that will swoop down and bring us a SB. We tried that five years ago with a HOF coach, and IMO one of the best if not the best ever, and he couldn't bring home a SB trophy.

Trample the Elderly · 01-09-2009, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by calia

If anyone has the right to complain (and if they do, it should not be publicly), it is the members of our defense.

yup!

CRedskinsRule · 01-09-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

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4. What has the chin done that's so incredible? He had remarkable support from ownership, good talent, weak division and one SB in 15 years. He'll be out of football two years next year.
5. What has Shanahan after the two SBs (post-Elway)? Support from ownership, good talent, weak division, nothing to show for it.

How about we stop trying to pin blame on one or two people (Snyder, Cerrato, Zorn, Campbell). We have flaws that will not be fixed in one year. Maybe we should focus on rebuilding the OL & DL and developing the talent and system we have in place. There is no miracle owner/GM/coach/player that will swoop down and bring us a SB. We tried that five years ago with a HOF coach, and IMO one of the best if not the best ever, and he couldn't bring home a SB trophy.

Support of the ownership also kept Gibbs 1 alive. yes he got 3 SB rings, but if not for Jack Kent Cookes dedication to him, who knows. I just think this is the key thing that our team needs now. we've tried every combination known to man except just letting patience and structure grow. The bad part of that is while it is developing, all us fans can do is wait and hope.

SkinDogg · 01-09-2009, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

I guess Portis never heard this bit of wisdom; Better to be thought a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt. Portis' definitely doesn't have a bright future ahead as an analyst.....

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Portis was never destined for being an analyst anyway.

sportscurmudgeon · 01-09-2009, 03:22 PM

Terrell Owens is a diva who plays wide receiver.

Clinton Portis is a diva who plays running back.

Terrell Owens' skills are slipping and he will soon reach the point where his value on the field is no longer worth the baggage he brings along with him.

Clinton Portis' skills are slipping and he will soon reach the point where his value on the field is no longer worth the baggage he brings along with him.

If the comparisons with Terrell Owens offend folks here, substitute the name "Chad Ocho Cinco", "Brett Favre", KW II ...

SkinDogg · 01-09-2009, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Support of the ownership also kept Gibbs 1 alive. yes he got 3 SB rings, but if not for Jack Kent Cookes dedication to him, who knows. I just think this is the key thing that our team needs now. we've tried every combination known to man except just letting patience and structure grow. The bad part of that is while it is developing, all us fans can do is wait and hope.

Well said, and much agreed. But I must add that Gibbs having chalked up a Super Bowl after season 2 certainly kept Cooke dedicated.

Slingin Sammy 33 · 01-09-2009, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Support of the ownership also kept Gibbs 1 alive. yes he got 3 SB rings, but if not for Jack Kent Cookes dedication to him, who knows. I just think this is the key thing that our team needs now. we've tried every combination known to man except just letting patience and structure grow. The bad part of that is while it is developing, all us fans can do is wait and hope.

Agree 100%. JKC was a great owner and Bethard a great GM.

Skins4L · 01-09-2009, 06:53 PM

cmon CP. u leave me no room to defend you with sh*t like this...

NOBODY INTERVIEW THIS DUDE! Great RB...but he talks dumb sometimes.

Trample the Elderly · 01-09-2009, 08:47 PM

This says it all

Redskins by Position: Running Backs - Redskins Insider

Boston Brave · 01-09-2009, 09:09 PM

Two things, 1) Average to Good Running Backs are a dime a dozen, 2) I like the way Portis plays, but fans go to FEDEX to see the Redskins play, not see the Clinton Portis show.

davy · 01-09-2009, 10:53 PM

I'll just copy a post I made over 2 years ago...

"Surprise, surprise, Portis whining again.

He needs to STFU and do what he's told."

I got raked over the coals for that then, now it seems most people feel the same.

Trample the Elderly · 01-10-2009, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by davy

I'll just copy a post I made over 2 years ago...

"Surprise, surprise, Portis whining again.

He needs to STFU and do what he's told."

I got raked over the coals for that then, now it seems most people feel the same.

I like that (STFU). I don't text or chat and blogging is new to me. I've tried to leave behind acronyms after the military but I think I'll keep that. Here's one, CP luv ya but STFU!

Trample the Elderly · 01-10-2009, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight

I Doubt he is reading this? he probably to busy cashing checks!!! too funny

Ya Trick Ya

wolfeskins · 01-10-2009, 03:47 PM

it would not hurt my feelings one bit if the skins got rid of portis. i'm pretty sick and tired of all his crap.

01-09-2009, 01:21 PM	#46
calia Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Woodside, CA Age: 46 Posts: 564	Re: More Portis If anyone has the right to complain (and if they do, it should not be publicly), it is the members of our defense.

01-09-2009, 03:22 PM	#51
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Re: More Portis Terrell Owens is a diva who plays wide receiver. Clinton Portis is a diva who plays running back. Terrell Owens' skills are slipping and he will soon reach the point where his value on the field is no longer worth the baggage he brings along with him. Clinton Portis' skills are slipping and he will soon reach the point where his value on the field is no longer worth the baggage he brings along with him. If the comparisons with Terrell Owens offend folks here, substitute the name "Chad Ocho Cinco", "Brett Favre", KW II ... __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

01-09-2009, 06:53 PM	#54
Skins4L Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 682	Re: More Portis cmon CP. u leave me no room to defend you with sh*t like this... NOBODY INTERVIEW THIS DUDE! Great RB...but he talks dumb sometimes. __________________ ALL HAIL

01-09-2009, 08:47 PM	#55
Trample the Elderly Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Three Chopt Virginia Age: 36 Posts: 2,906	Re: More Portis This says it all Redskins by Position: Running Backs - Redskins Insider

01-09-2009, 09:09 PM	#56
Boston Brave Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 44	Re: More Portis Two things, 1) Average to Good Running Backs are a dime a dozen, 2) I like the way Portis plays, but fans go to FEDEX to see the Redskins play, not see the Clinton Portis show.

01-09-2009, 10:53 PM	#57
davy Impact Rookie Join Date: May 2004 Location: England Posts: 691	Re: More Portis I'll just copy a post I made over 2 years ago... "Surprise, surprise, Portis whining again. He needs to STFU and do what he's told." I got raked over the coals for that then, now it seems most people feel the same. __________________ “Don't ask me what I think of you, I might not give the answer that you want me to.”

01-10-2009, 03:47 PM	#60
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	Re: More Portis it would not hurt my feelings one bit if the skins got rid of portis. i'm pretty sick and tired of all his crap. __________________ Hail to Allen/Shanahan .... bring in some baby hogs and load up on diesel fuel !!! (budw38)

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