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Old 01-14-2009, 10:21 AM   #31
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Honestly I don't think trading Santana moss is really even an option. Per the Cap schedule on this site Moss has a pretty big contract and trading him would cost the Skins a lot to do - Schneed or Crazy Canuck or other cap experts - can you provide the cap hit the Skins would take if they did indeed trade him - would it just be the release fee which for 2009 for Moss would be 7.2 million? If this is the case there is no way the Skins could even entertain a trade for Moss.

I think Moss should be retained even if there was no cap implications as he is a great WR that if given even a little room makes the opponent pay big time - look at his return against Detroit that essentially won the Skins the game. He comes to work and never complains, for the most part has great hands and battles through injuries and he is in my opinion a great team player - why trade a guy like this?

Also on trading Betts I thought that running back is one of the easier positions to fill with many draft picks able to come in and contribute right away unlike a WR - so why would a team trade multiple draft picks for a running back that has some history of injuries and fumbling as well as quite a few years of wear and tear when they can go out and sign one via free agency or draft even in a lower round? Yeah it would be nice if some team was willing to trade multiple picks for Betts so we can shore up our lines quicker but I don't think this is too realistic and will most likely not play out.
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Old 01-14-2009, 11:03 AM   #32
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so what do you all think about fixing our o line with the draft and fixing our d line with FA. we can sign a serviceable lb in FA as well and take care of that next year.
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Old 01-14-2009, 04:36 PM   #34
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so what do you all think about fixing our o line with the draft and fixing our d line with FA. we can sign a serviceable lb in FA as well and take care of that next year.
I would love if the Skins addressed the oline via the draft. As far as fixing the d line with FA maybe they can add one quality lineman, I just don't want them to break the bank but knowing the market for defensive lineman they will probably have to overpay.

as far as LB - I have seen many mention Dansby and if we can get him for a descent price that would be great.

Overall I don't know how crazy the skins can really be in Free Agency without having to mortgage their future even more. I would like them to start ridding themselves of these huge contracts of players who are not perfoming to what they are being paid - they just can't do it all in one offseason with all the dead cap money they would incur doing it. So over the next 2-3 years maybe the plan is to whittle away the huge contracts and release the highly paid players when the dead cap hit lessens.
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Old 01-14-2009, 04:55 PM   #35
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I would love if the Skins addressed the oline via the draft. As far as fixing the d line with FA maybe they can add one quality lineman, I just don't want them to break the bank but knowing the market for defensive lineman they will probably have to overpay.

as far as LB - I have seen many mention Dansby and if we can get him for a descent price that would be great.

Overall I don't know how crazy the skins can really be in Free Agency without having to mortgage their future even more. I would like them to start ridding themselves of these huge contracts of players who are not perfoming to what they are being paid - they just can't do it all in one offseason with all the dead cap money they would incur doing it. So over the next 2-3 years maybe the plan is to whittle away the huge contracts and release the highly paid players when the dead cap hit lessens.
That makes sense. Perhaps they can have a little patience. I'm happy that they actually used the draft last year. I'm waiting to see.
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Old 01-14-2009, 05:08 PM   #36
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That makes sense. Perhaps they can have a little patience. I'm happy that they actually used the draft last year. I'm waiting to see.
Last years draft was a pleasant surprise and I hope they continue to use the trade down philosphy to acquire more picks even more in future years. Hopefully at some point they won't trade mulitple picks away in future years as I think the draft helps teams build depth at an affordable price and also helps the team get younger. free agency should be used to bolster a few positions here and there, but long term sustainbility is pretty hard if you simply try and buy your way to a title year after year.

As far a patience - I have read some on the boards here that Synder is giving Zorn and Cerrato 2 years to fix things. My take is if that even if the team does not make the playoffs next year as long as they are showing improvement towards the end of the year and not fading away the team, coaches and FO stays intact as Synder will allow them to prove themselves the next year. Many have said it takes two full years to truely implement the WCO, so being 50% there why not let itself ride out another full year and see what happens.
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Fly you weren't saying that when we made the playoff's last season... Snyder isn't great but atleast he has a will to win... It could be WORSE (DET, N.O. CINCY) TEAMS WITH OWNERS WHO DONT CARE.
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