McNabb, Warner, and the Hall of Fame

SmootSmack · 01-13-2009, 12:56 PM

What do you all think?

Are they already Hall of Famers?

Do either need to win or at least make the Super Bowl to be considered (all this is assuming they retired at the end of the season, which I don't think they would).

Are they not Hall of Famers no matter what happens these next couple of weeks?

over the mountain · 01-13-2009, 01:14 PM

interesting thought, a few years ago i didnt think warner did "it" long enough to be HOF worthy given that he didnt start in the league until he was what? 30? but he won the qb competition in AZ over a highly touted first round rook in leinart (great call by the AZ coaches to go with the qb who gives them the best chance to win vs not letting a heavy investment sit on the bench) . . i still dont think of warner as a HOfer but he does have a league and SB MVP (does he have 2 league MVPs?) . . not sure about warner. perhaps a SB win with another team might secure it for him. i could see the argument that he has played with explosive offensive teams cutting against him too.

mcnabb should def be in the HOF first ballot, superbowl win or not. if the eagles do win the SB i think he is a lock. he has made that philly team a consistent winner being in the nfc champ game something like 5 out of the past 10 years . .

warner = maybe
mcnabb = yes

go skins!!

SFREDSKIN · 01-13-2009, 01:24 PM

I would say Warner over McNabb. Warner has won a SB and has proven he can play even at his ripe age, if he makes it to another SB; then there's no doubt.

irish · 01-13-2009, 01:24 PM

I think both are HoFers. Warner won a SB and has been an MVP winning another SB would really make him a lock. I think McNabb is also a HoFer but IMO he needs a SB win to really secure his spot. I dont think either is a lock but I think both are worthy.

Hog1 · 01-13-2009, 01:28 PM

I heard that being talked about somewhere today. I did not realize McNabb's numbers were as good as they are. Both have to be in the discussion for HOF.

Meks · 01-13-2009, 01:29 PM

i dont think mcnabb is HOF at all.

GMScud · 01-13-2009, 01:34 PM

I would say Warner for sure. He has thrown for 300+ yards in over 45% of his starts. That's amazing. The next closest player is Dan Fouts at 28%. Plus he has a Super Bowl ring and an MVP.

McNabb is getting close I think. He's steadily been a winner in his career, but he's 1-3 in NFC Championship Games, and has never won a Super Bowl or MVP.

If I had to vote today, I would say Warner yes, McNabb no.

Meks · 01-13-2009, 01:43 PM

^ co-sign

Mattyk · 01-13-2009, 01:46 PM

Another ring for Warner with the season he's had and I would say he's pretty damn close to being a lock, a few years ago I would have said no way. Let's look at his career numbers: 28,591 passing yards, 182 TDs, 114 INTs, 93.8 rating, 3 seasons with over 4,000 yards, 4 seasons with at least 27 TDs, 65.4 career completion %. He's certainly got some good numbers.

With McNabb you've gotta figure he probably has at least 5 more years as a starter. Add a ring to that and he probably will be a Hall of Famer when all is said and done. Some of his career highlights: 29,320 passing yards, 194 TDs, 90 INTs, 5 seasons over the 3,000 yard mark, 4 seasons with at least 21 TDs, and even though he doesn't run like he used to he still has 3,109 yards rushing and 26 TDs over his career.

Skinny Tee · 01-13-2009, 01:53 PM

Warner should make it to the HOF on his story alone.

His rags to riches NFL story couldn't be better. I don't see why he wouldn't since he has a super bowl ring in tow.

McNabb has to win if he wants in.

KLHJ2 · 01-13-2009, 01:54 PM

I say yes to both. Yes to Warner because of his SB appearances

Yes to McNabb because he has only had a No. 1 reciever once in his career and has still managed to put up the numbers that he has. Outside of Westbrook, he has never had another weapon on the offense. That is HOF worthy if you ask me.

This does not change nor dilute my hatred towards McNabb, I just gotta give credit where credit is due.

Meks · 01-13-2009, 01:58 PM

mcnabb is not marino.

Mattyk · 01-13-2009, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meks

mcnabb is not marino.

Not many guys are comparable to Marino. I don't understand your point.

dmek25 · 01-13-2009, 02:13 PM

good thread. if you would tell someone that McNabb has better career stats then Warner, they wouldn't believe you. i say yes to both. McNabb has done more with less talent then probably anyone in the game. and Warner, minus the Giant season, has been nothing short of amazing his whole career

12thMan · 01-13-2009, 02:20 PM

I think both will definitely get in. I'll go out on a limb and say Warner will be a first ballot. But McNabb will get in eventually.

Both players have bounced back from adversity serveral times only to have career seasons and hoist their teams into the playoffs. Just six weeks ago, we thought McNabb was done and look how he's not only turned himself around but now the entire team seems to be playing at a high level.

Another thing about McNabb, he has consistently gotten it done with very average talent at wideout. Warner on the other hand, has played with future Hall of Famers. This current crop of wideouts included.

01-13-2009, 12:56 PM	#1
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,105	McNabb, Warner, and the Hall of Fame What do you all think? Are they already Hall of Famers? Do either need to win or at least make the Super Bowl to be considered (all this is assuming they retired at the end of the season, which I don't think they would). Are they not Hall of Famers no matter what happens these next couple of weeks? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

01-13-2009, 01:14 PM	#2
over the mountain Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: baltimore Posts: 2,670	Re: McNabb, Warner, and the Hall of Fame interesting thought, a few years ago i didnt think warner did "it" long enough to be HOF worthy given that he didnt start in the league until he was what? 30? but he won the qb competition in AZ over a highly touted first round rook in leinart (great call by the AZ coaches to go with the qb who gives them the best chance to win vs not letting a heavy investment sit on the bench) . . i still dont think of warner as a HOfer but he does have a league and SB MVP (does he have 2 league MVPs?) . . not sure about warner. perhaps a SB win with another team might secure it for him. i could see the argument that he has played with explosive offensive teams cutting against him too. mcnabb should def be in the HOF first ballot, superbowl win or not. if the eagles do win the SB i think he is a lock. he has made that philly team a consistent winner being in the nfc champ game something like 5 out of the past 10 years . . warner = maybe mcnabb = yes go skins!!

01-13-2009, 01:24 PM	#3
SFREDSKIN Pro Bowl Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 6,504	Re: McNabb, Warner, and the Hall of Fame I would say Warner over McNabb. Warner has won a SB and has proven he can play even at his ripe age, if he makes it to another SB; then there's no doubt. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

01-13-2009, 01:24 PM	#4
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,328	Re: McNabb, Warner, and the Hall of Fame I think both are HoFers. Warner won a SB and has been an MVP winning another SB would really make him a lock. I think McNabb is also a HoFer but IMO he needs a SB win to really secure his spot. I dont think either is a lock but I think both are worthy.

01-13-2009, 01:28 PM	#5
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 8,376	Re: McNabb, Warner, and the Hall of Fame I heard that being talked about somewhere today. I did not realize McNabb's numbers were as good as they are. Both have to be in the discussion for HOF. __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... Win! Always win! By fair means or foul, by soft words and hard deeds... by treachery, by cunning, by malpractice... but always win--Edward Teach

01-13-2009, 01:29 PM	#6
Meks The Starter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Jersey Age: 27 Posts: 1,744	Re: McNabb, Warner, and the Hall of Fame i dont think mcnabb is HOF at all. __________________ NFL officiating is BY FAR the worst in proffessional sports. Except no substitutions... worse or not!! R.I.P #21SEAN TAYLOR

01-13-2009, 01:34 PM	#7
GMScud Swearinger Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Washington, DC Age: 34 Posts: 12,623	Re: McNabb, Warner, and the Hall of Fame I would say Warner for sure. He has thrown for 300+ yards in over 45% of his starts. That's amazing. The next closest player is Dan Fouts at 28%. Plus he has a Super Bowl ring and an MVP. McNabb is getting close I think. He's steadily been a winner in his career, but he's 1-3 in NFC Championship Games, and has never won a Super Bowl or MVP. If I had to vote today, I would say Warner yes, McNabb no. __________________ Insert witty signature here

01-13-2009, 01:43 PM	#8
Meks The Starter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Jersey Age: 27 Posts: 1,744	Re: McNabb, Warner, and the Hall of Fame ^ co-sign __________________ NFL officiating is BY FAR the worst in proffessional sports. Except no substitutions... worse or not!! R.I.P #21SEAN TAYLOR

01-13-2009, 01:46 PM	#9
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,722	Re: McNabb, Warner, and the Hall of Fame Another ring for Warner with the season he's had and I would say he's pretty damn close to being a lock, a few years ago I would have said no way. Let's look at his career numbers: 28,591 passing yards, 182 TDs, 114 INTs, 93.8 rating, 3 seasons with over 4,000 yards, 4 seasons with at least 27 TDs, 65.4 career completion %. He's certainly got some good numbers. With McNabb you've gotta figure he probably has at least 5 more years as a starter. Add a ring to that and he probably will be a Hall of Famer when all is said and done. Some of his career highlights: 29,320 passing yards, 194 TDs, 90 INTs, 5 seasons over the 3,000 yard mark, 4 seasons with at least 21 TDs, and even though he doesn't run like he used to he still has 3,109 yards rushing and 26 TDs over his career. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

01-13-2009, 01:53 PM	#10
Skinny Tee The Starter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Redskins Nation Posts: 1,715	Re: McNabb, Warner, and the Hall of Fame Warner should make it to the HOF on his story alone. His rags to riches NFL story couldn't be better. I don't see why he wouldn't since he has a super bowl ring in tow. McNabb has to win if he wants in. __________________ Redskinsly, _________Skinny Tee_________ Last edited by Skinny Tee; 01-13-2009 at 01:59 PM.

01-13-2009, 01:54 PM	#11
KLHJ2 Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: DC Metro Area Age: 34 Posts: 5,823	Re: McNabb, Warner, and the Hall of Fame I say yes to both. Yes to Warner because of his SB appearances Yes to McNabb because he has only had a No. 1 reciever once in his career and has still managed to put up the numbers that he has. Outside of Westbrook, he has never had another weapon on the offense. That is HOF worthy if you ask me. This does not change nor dilute my hatred towards McNabb, I just gotta give credit where credit is due. __________________ Read "The Book", life will gain meaning.

01-13-2009, 01:58 PM	#12
Meks The Starter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Jersey Age: 27 Posts: 1,744	Re: McNabb, Warner, and the Hall of Fame mcnabb is not marino. __________________ NFL officiating is BY FAR the worst in proffessional sports. Except no substitutions... worse or not!! R.I.P #21SEAN TAYLOR

01-13-2009, 02:13 PM	#14
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 51 Posts: 10,442	Re: McNabb, Warner, and the Hall of Fame good thread. if you would tell someone that McNabb has better career stats then Warner, they wouldn't believe you. i say yes to both. McNabb has done more with less talent then probably anyone in the game. and Warner, minus the Giant season, has been nothing short of amazing his whole career __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

01-13-2009, 02:20 PM	#15
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,363	Re: McNabb, Warner, and the Hall of Fame I think both will definitely get in. I'll go out on a limb and say Warner will be a first ballot. But McNabb will get in eventually. Both players have bounced back from adversity serveral times only to have career seasons and hoist their teams into the playoffs. Just six weeks ago, we thought McNabb was done and look how he's not only turned himself around but now the entire team seems to be playing at a high level. Another thing about McNabb, he has consistently gotten it done with very average talent at wideout. Warner on the other hand, has played with future Hall of Famers. This current crop of wideouts included.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

McNabb, Warner, and the Hall of Fame

Redskins Locker Room