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Old 09-14-2004, 09:29 AM   #1
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Not impressed with our defense

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They're gushing about Gregg Williams after his Washington defense held Tampa Bay without an offensive touchdown in a 16-10 win Sunday. In some quarters, they're already talking about his inevitable return some day as a head coach. But let's not get too giddy. It was one game, against a Buccaneers offense that might be the most woeful in the league. Let's see how the Redskins defense fares against a real NFL offense.
Fair criticism or another low blow from the media?
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Old 09-14-2004, 09:32 AM   #2
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Low blow. Lets not forget he did not get a fair shake in Buffalo. They took a injured running back with the number 1 pick who they knew he was not going to contribute. They don't exactly spend money up there. And shall we cast our own low blow.

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Old 09-14-2004, 09:51 AM   #3
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I am really sick and tired of all this negative crap about the Skins. Granted we've only played one game, but lets compare our defense on Sunday to last years. Anyone see a difference? Uhhh yeeeeaahhh!!!

Also, didn't Buffalo lose on Sunday?
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Old 09-14-2004, 09:58 AM   #4
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Brad Johnson picked us apart last year. This year, nothing!
Enough said.
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Old 09-14-2004, 10:10 AM   #5
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Fair criticism or another low blow from the media?

Also, who cares how bad Tampa's offense is "supposed" to be. Our D came out and did their job. We can't control who's injured, or holding out or who's too old. All the defense has to do is come out stop the offense no matter who's playing....plain and simple and we did that.
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Old 09-14-2004, 10:10 AM   #6
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It's somewhat fair, yes it's only one game against a rather weak offense, BUT you've gotta give Williams some credit here. His resume speaks for itself as far as being a defensive coordinator goes. And who knows, far worse have had second shots as head coaches (Norv anyone?).

If anyone remembers Bill Belichick wasn't very successful his first go round as a HC (36-44 overall). Williams is a bright guy, I can't see how he won't get another shot at being a HC someday. Hopefully it's here after Gibbs is done with his second stint and added a few more SB trophies to the case.
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Old 09-14-2004, 10:23 AM   #7
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Brad Johnson picked us apart last year. This year, nothing!
Enough said.
In all fairness there is some truth to this: It is only one game; the Skins D did not face ANY deep speed; 8 of their starting 11 offensive players were/are over 30 including their QB, their two starting WR's (well until Galloway got hurt) and to two RB's (both coming off injury); their O-Line had only one player from last year's line; their two tackles were both over 32 and one (Steussie) was playing a position he has never played before (RT). This was an old, slow offense. The Skins safeties were able to basically play w/in 15-20 yards of the line of scrimmage. T-Bay's offense is going to be VERY bad this year.

With that said, however, give credit where credit is due: This is the NFL - holding a team to 30 yards rushing, no first downs through 1 1/2 quarters and, essentially, no points (the FG was the direct result of the ST breakdown, not anything TBay's offense did) are things that don't happen every week in the NFL and, when they do, it is generally b/c a bad offense played a good defense.

I think this defense will be VERY VERY good b/c the players who weren't blitzing seemed to be holding their assignments, that, to me, is the key to this type of defense. But, yes. Let's see what do against a team that can actually get the ball deep and/or cause some separation. I expect we will do fine. BTW - that team had better have a defense as fast and stifling as T-Bays because - if we can put up 16 against that defense - we are going to be able to put up a lot more against lesser defenses.
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Old 09-14-2004, 10:25 AM   #8
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Low blow:
I might be wrong, but I think our STARTING defense did not give up a TD this preseason until the Rams game, which was our fourth game.
These Buffalo a-holes are just soar grapes because they lost the Jags. We beat a team (Buc's) that won the superbowl a few years ago. They lost to a very average team.
Jerry Sullivan did say one thing right in his article....Tom Brady is the playing like the real MVP of this league. If Brady continues his high level of play this year, he better get the MVP award or something is seriously wrong.
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Old 09-14-2004, 10:26 AM   #9
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I would say it was almost fair. You have to reallize these writers have a job to do and they are not going to make Buffalo look bad after only one week. You cannot win a Super Bowl in one week. Just like you cant have a domminant defense or offense in one week. It even took the Ravens a season to get recognised and now it is almost a given that they always have a tough D. After midseason when our defense is still dominant, that is when you will see credit given where credit is due.
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Old 09-14-2004, 10:54 AM   #10
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What the f%#* would they know about a "real" offense in Buffalo?
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Old 09-14-2004, 10:56 AM   #11
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its fair, the bucs O was slow and planned against for a very long time. still its better to shut down bad O's than let them run you over, so i'll take the stats and run with them. if we can hold the eagles or the vikes down, that will make a huge statement. The D is looking like it'll be top five right now, and you can't even compare it to last year...

SO, D = great, but outsiders are looking for a statement against a big O threat, and i'm curious as to how well we hold up there too.
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Old 09-14-2004, 12:22 PM   #12
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Is the Bucs offense that bad or is the Redskins aggresive style of defense made them look that bad? I remember two years ago when Gruden went to TB he was touted as a offense of genius!!!! well is everyone now saying he is a offense dud?
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Old 09-14-2004, 12:32 PM   #13
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his WRs are much worse this year... and the O line hasn't clicked cause of changes there... they also have 20+ new players on their roster, so its a different team. no KM hurts, and keyshawn is actually not a bad WR either.. galloway dropped a couple and limped off the field.
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Old 09-14-2004, 12:40 PM   #14
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The best teams beat the teams they're expected to beat and don't let up no matter what the level of competition. Now I'm not saying we're one of the best teams-yet-but we gave the kind of performance-at least defensively-that you have to give regardless of the competition.
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The best teams beat the teams they're expected to beat and don't let up no matter what the level of competition. Now I'm not saying we're one of the best teams-yet-but we gave the kind of performance-at least defensively-that you have to give regardless of the competition.
right, i'm just wondering if a team like the vikes could beat the blitz and abuse our corners...
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