Updated: Evaluating the QB Situation (Discuss Campbell, Colt, etc)

Slingin Sammy 33 · 02-07-2009, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

LA-LA Land called. They said they miss you and it's time to come home.

He's off the meds again. We'll send someone right out.

skinsfan69 · 02-07-2009, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

And most people who repeat this same old mantra always ignore Zorn's criticism of Campbell's late season play when he said that Campbell was moving too quickly through his reads and missing opportunities.

This board would be so much more enjoyable and have more substance in their threads if fans would accept 3 simple truths:
1. Jason Campbell is unquestionably our QB going into the 2009 season. There will be no camp competition, nor should there be. He's going to get AT LEAST 10 games without any risk of losing his position.
2. JC and JZ are linked at the hip. If Campbell succeeds, the team succeeds and Zorn sticks around. If Campbell doesn't develop and the team struggles or is worse than this year then Zorn and Campbell will both be gone in '10. By this time next year we will know without question if JC is our QB of the future or not.
3. Colt Brennan was drafted to be a long term project and likely a career backup. He put up sick numbers in college and lit up some UPS drivers, but anyone who knows anything about football could see that even in his 'highlights' in the preseason many of his throws would have been picked or gotten his WR killed against NFL starters. Think Shane Matthews/Danny Wuerffel. Seriously. That's who he is in the NFL.

I'm not so sure about that. Let see how things play out in training camp.

GMScud · 02-07-2009, 11:26 PM

Another thing that's funny is not one single peep has come from inside the Redskins that even hints at anything resembling an open QB competition in training camp. Not one. Anyone who says anything about JC not getting an extension yet knows little about the cap/CBA situation heading into 2010.

Jason was the guy going into last season, and Zorn has reinforced as much heading into this coming season. There's no competition for the starting job. If anything, it will be interesting to see if Brennan can overtake Collins for the role of #1 Clipboard Holder.

Paintrain · 02-07-2009, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I'm not so sure about that. Let see how things play out in training camp.

I'd bet nearly anything to say he's the #3 QB coming out of camp.

Ruhskins · 02-08-2009, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Nflnick11

Very true, but A) it's not like he's the only defensive coordinator who knows about JC's reads and B) last time I checked, the cowboys were still alive in the playoff hunt in the last week of the season wereas we were ruled out by week 15...this will be the year we see how good Campbell really is

Don't forget that the Cowboys' expectations were very high at the beginning of the season, and were considered a SB contender; whereas the Redskins were not expected to do as well as they did.

53Fan · 02-08-2009, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSmurfs22

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Question is, would El throw down the field or constantly throw across it like he runs?

I say bring back Jay Schrader!HAHA

Nothing but screens...... and an occasional downfield pass to Cooley.

Luxorreb · 02-08-2009, 03:54 AM

Todd Collins woulda done better late in the season. Problem is he isn't young enough to take the beating that the old OL relinquishes!

53Fan · 02-08-2009, 11:19 AM

Take 2 lithium and call me in the morning 44. We'll talk. It's gonna be alright.

Meks · 02-08-2009, 11:31 AM

^ i wanted to yell, but decided a nice calm intervention type thread will help you .... we're here for you.

Ruhskins · 02-08-2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Nflnick11

Ya well we did meet other peoples expectations of us finishing last in the east... It's not about how you do the first half the season it's how you do the whole season

Other expectations were for us to have a losing season, and we didn't. Not to mention how competitive our division was this season. I mean, come on there's a big difference between finishing last in our division and last in the NFC West (which that type of production was what was expected of us).

Regardless, my original point was to counter you defending the Cowboys saying that they were still in the playoff hunt much later in the season than we were (which I don't think we were out of the playoff that early in the season). And I was comparing the expectations by the sports media of our team and the Cowboys. The Cowboys were expected to have a season like the Giants, but they didn't. The Cowboys were the ones with all the flashy free agent acquisitions, and their owner guaranteed that they would make the playoffs. Meanwhile our team had a rookie coach, some young receivers, a questionable offensive line, and a banged up RB.

RedskinPete · 02-08-2009, 02:19 PM

I think we have seen the best JC is going to be. To bad because we have little on the bench. This team has so many needs I see little chance of drafting a QB first round. There are two things the O needs more out of the QB spot and a line that has so many needs one draft will not due! O9 will be a long season just like the end of 08 was.

saden1 · 02-08-2009, 02:54 PM

WTF?

Paintrain · 02-08-2009, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Nflnick11

I've never heard zorn say that and I watched him on NBC all the time...still he was making mistakes during the 2nd half of the season and is a major factor as to why we slumped the second half of the season

It was in a WP article that was written in the 2nd half sometime. I tried searching but it didn't go back that far. Bottom line is JC is going to be the QB next season. We all want him to be one of the top QB in the league, we'll see if it comes to pass but by no means is he terrible or the worst QB in the league. As poorly as our OL played in the 2nd half it's hard to judge anyone's production.

BrunellMVP? · 02-08-2009, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Nflnick11

Campbells got a great arm and great legs, other than that, he's not good. Surprised no ones mentioned the true successor, Brennan...

why does everyone love Colt? He may indeed be good, but remember when Spurrier's offense what "tearing it up" in the 2nd half of pre-season games then went on to do 0 when it counted? Campbell is solid, and made strides last season, he's got 1 more to demonstrate that he's the undeniable future, otherwise, its open compeition in 2010.

Dirtbag59 · 02-08-2009, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Luxorreb

Todd Collins woulda done better late in the season. Problem is he isn't young enough to take the beating that the old OL relinquishes!

You're crazy. If the O-Line was really in such bad shape then Vinny would have done something about it DUH. Oh wait.

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Originally Posted by 44ever

JC sucks, he's the worst in the NFL. Our Owner and our GM are also among the worst in the NFL. No I take that back. That's not a fair statement. Our Owner and GM are the worst in the NFL. Also Zorn is the worst coach in the NFL he admitted that himself. He went 8-8 his first year. I expected at least 14-2. Or better. Jason Taylor he sucks. It doesn't matter if he was hurt he should play hurt and make the pro bowl. Moss can't get open. Rogers has no hands and Hall is a trouble maker. I wish Jerry Jones was our owner. And Wade was our HC. And Romo was our QB. If Colt isn't our starter in 09 I'm becoming a Cowboys fan.

ZOMG, so you're a member of the misleading post club to??!?!?!?

02-07-2009, 11:26 PM	#33
GMScud Swearinger Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Washington, DC Age: 34 Posts: 12,623	re: Updated: Evaluating the QB Situation (Discuss Campbell, Colt, etc) Another thing that's funny is not one single peep has come from inside the Redskins that even hints at anything resembling an open QB competition in training camp. Not one. Anyone who says anything about JC not getting an extension yet knows little about the cap/CBA situation heading into 2010. Jason was the guy going into last season, and Zorn has reinforced as much heading into this coming season. There's no competition for the starting job. If anything, it will be interesting to see if Brennan can overtake Collins for the role of #1 Clipboard Holder. __________________ Insert witty signature here

02-08-2009, 03:54 AM	#37
Luxorreb ^21^ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 1,601	re: Updated: Evaluating the QB Situation (Discuss Campbell, Colt, etc) Todd Collins woulda done better late in the season. Problem is he isn't young enough to take the beating that the old OL relinquishes! __________________ GO SKINS!!! ^21^

02-08-2009, 11:19 AM	#38
53Fan Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,360	re: Updated: Evaluating the QB Situation (Discuss Campbell, Colt, etc) Take 2 lithium and call me in the morning 44. We'll talk. It's gonna be alright. __________________ "Cautiously And Optimistically... Looking Forward To Change"

02-08-2009, 11:31 AM	#39
Meks The Starter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Jersey Age: 27 Posts: 1,751	re: Updated: Evaluating the QB Situation (Discuss Campbell, Colt, etc) ^ i wanted to yell, but decided a nice calm intervention type thread will help you .... we're here for you. __________________ NFL officiating is BY FAR the worst in proffessional sports. Except no substitutions... worse or not!! R.I.P #21SEAN TAYLOR

02-08-2009, 02:19 PM	#41
RedskinPete The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Camino,Ca Posts: 1,174	re: Updated: Evaluating the QB Situation (Discuss Campbell, Colt, etc) I think we have seen the best JC is going to be. To bad because we have little on the bench. This team has so many needs I see little chance of drafting a QB first round. There are two things the O needs more out of the QB spot and a line that has so many needs one draft will not due! O9 will be a long season just like the end of 08 was.

02-08-2009, 02:54 PM	#42
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