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Old 03-17-2009, 01:28 PM   #166
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Re: Seems like Cutler might be available.

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JLC's not really the bastion of insider knowledge or insight. Remember he's the one who virtually swore up and down in every pre-free agency article that the Redskins wouldn't be in on Haynesworth. How did that work out for him.

Now I highly doubt the Redskins will be in on Cutler (thankfully) but he's pretty much the last guy I'd look to for insight to the Redskins thoughts and actions.
Believe me, I know. I don't really like JLC, nor do I find him very reliable. But I think he's right on with this one.
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Old 03-17-2009, 01:31 PM   #167
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I'm with sticking with J Campbell, but damn dude , throw the ball down field sometimes !
Hell yeah. If we don't, we're in trouble.
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Old 03-17-2009, 02:33 PM   #168
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Re: Seems like Cutler might be available.

The vibe i get from most posts here isn't necessarily that campbell sucks or not wanted but if the opportunity is out there to upgrade go for it. Does anyone here really believe Campbell is better then Cutler, or has a higher upside?
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Old 03-17-2009, 02:59 PM   #169
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The vibe i get from most posts here isn't necessarily that campbell sucks or not wanted but if the opportunity is out there to upgrade go for it. Does anyone here really believe Campbell is better then Cutler, or has a higher upside?
I honestly do. JC_R and JC_D have the basic same winning percentage.
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A quick Campbell/Cutler comparison-
JC (Jason Campbell)-36 starts, 16-20 W-L record, 35 TD, 23 INT, 80.4 QB rating

JC (Jay Cutler)-37 starts, 17-20 W-L record, 54 TD, 37 INT, 87.1 QB rating

Cutler has been in a much more passer friendly, aggressive offense for his starts that Campbell was. He also had elite level WR talent in Brandon Marshall and had Rod Smith for his first 21 starts. Add in an established offense and experienced coach/playcaller in Shanahan it's not hard to figure out why he shines a little brighter in the TD category.

Where it really matters however is in the W-L column. Cutler has never won anywhere, not in college, not in the pros. Is he really that much of an upgrade from Campbell?
I think this says it very well. I would add that JC_R has progressed every year, and this year should/could be a big step for him. yes I would rather keep the qb we have lived and died with, then bring another upstart in and watch as he gets the same results with a lot more whining, and not much winning.
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Old 03-17-2009, 03:03 PM   #170
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Ok, I give our first, third and JC, for Cutler. then I draft two Olinemen with 5 and 6.
It probably would never happen but I'd make that deal. Cutler is the better player hands down. He gets rid of the ball quicker, has a better release, seems to see the field better and is just as mobile. The guy is coming off a 4,500 yard 25 td season. Can we honestly say JC has the ability to acheive those type of numbers? I don't. I hope like hell he proves me wrong though.
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Old 03-17-2009, 03:08 PM   #171
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I honestly do. JC_R and JC_D have the basic same winning percentage.

I think this says it very well. I would add that JC_R has progressed every year, and this year should/could be a big step for him. yes I would rather keep the qb we have lived and died with, then bring another upstart in and watch as he gets the same results with a lot more whining, and not much winning.
Can Culter complete a pass in under 3 seconds?

If he can we should trade our 13th overall to Denver for Cutler and not address our OL needs.
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Old 03-17-2009, 03:15 PM   #172
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A quick Campbell/Cutler comparison-
JC (Jason Campbell)-36 starts, 16-20 W-L record, 35 TD, 23 INT, 80.4 QB rating

JC (Jay Cutler)-37 starts, 17-20 W-L record, 54 TD, 37 INT, 87.1 QB rating

Cutler has been in a much more passer friendly, aggressive offense for his starts that Campbell was. He also had elite level WR talent in Brandon Marshall and had Rod Smith for his first 21 starts. Add in an established offense and experienced coach/playcaller in Shanahan it's not hard to figure out why he shines a little brighter in the TD category.

Where it really matters however is in the W-L column. Cutler has never won anywhere, not in college, not in the pros. Is he really that much of an upgrade from Campbell?
What does W/L record have to do with it? Cutler played at freakin Vanderbuilt w/ scrubs against the toughest competition in the country and was the SEC player of the year. Sorry but you don't do that at Vanderbuilt unless you're a PURE STUD. I do agee that he's had better coaching and stayed in one offense. But Cutler seems to be getting better where JC has just stayed the same. Cutler had NO running game at all this past year. None. Yes Cutler has better wr's but McNabb plays w/ shitty wr's and carries his offense....FOR YEARS. Does JC have that kind of ability? To carry an offense and throw for 4,500 yards? We've seen small glimpses of it but this year he needs to take it to the next level.
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Old 03-17-2009, 03:38 PM   #173
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Re: Seems like Cutler might be available.

Cutler also had the luxury of playing in the same offense his first 3 years.
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Old 03-17-2009, 04:31 PM   #174
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Jay Cutler to DC: Three Way Trade Has Five Players Moving and Two Draft Picks | Bleacher Report

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However, an inside source says a trade will bring Jay Cutler to Washington is almost complete.

The leak came roughly about one hour ago. Negotiations between Cutlerís agent, Pat Bowlen, Daniel Snyder, and the Cleveland Browns management have been ongoing for a few days and all sides seem to be happy.

The deal would see Jay Cutler, Tony Scheffler, and Clevelandís third round pick going to Washington.

Jason Campbell and Chris Cooley going to Cleveland and one of Denverís fifth round picks.

Brady Quinn going from Cleveland to Denver, and LaRon Landry from Washington will be going to Denver. We thought that the Bailey-Portis trade was big.

Our source says that teams will announce the deal at 5 p.m. this evening.
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Old 03-17-2009, 04:33 PM   #175
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LOL good one
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Old 03-17-2009, 04:37 PM   #176
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I really, really hope this is a crock of s**t. We would give up Campbell, Cooley, and Landry? Please...we can't be that stupid can we?
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Old 03-17-2009, 04:38 PM   #177
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Old 03-17-2009, 04:47 PM   #178
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Haha, nice!

A commentor beat me to it, but we're getting a pick from Cleveland that they don't even have in there.

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And this would put us about 14 million over the cap
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Old 03-17-2009, 04:48 PM   #179
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But we're getting Jay Cutler!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 03-17-2009, 04:55 PM   #180
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I really expected ole Rick to show us his song...
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