Seems like Cutler might be available.

CRedskinsRule

What is the definition of produce? As Tripp said, his stats show he is productive. I assume you mean number of wins, or going deep into the playoffs, I just wonder what you need to see from him to make you say he should stay.

Do you think Cutler would come here to be JC's backup??? never in a million years. If he came JC would go, or we would have the biggest QB controversy since Babe/Heath.

We just need to say no, of course, I doubt the question was ever really asked.

celts32

Well personally I would like to send CP packing but his cap number sort of prevents that.

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skinsfan69

The more I hear about this story the more I agree wih you. Cutler seems like a spoiled baby. I just heard he's not even returning calls from the owner. That's just insane, If the guy that signs your check calls you, you pick up the damn phone.

celts32

Well Rivers rep is not all that great either. A lot of QB's are cocky and diva like...these two guys have probably been told they were great since they were 8 years old. Of course they have big egos.

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Paintrain

A quick Campbell/Cutler comparison-
JC (Jason Campbell)-36 starts, 16-20 W-L record, 35 TD, 23 INT, 80.4 QB rating

JC (Jay Cutler)-37 starts, 17-20 W-L record, 54 TD, 37 INT, 87.1 QB rating

Cutler has been in a much more passer friendly, aggressive offense for his starts that Campbell was. He also had elite level WR talent in Brandon Marshall and had Rod Smith for his first 21 starts. Add in an established offense and experienced coach/playcaller in Shanahan it's not hard to figure out why he shines a little brighter in the TD category.

Where it really matters however is in the W-L column. Cutler has never won anywhere, not in college, not in the pros. Is he really that much of an upgrade from Campbell?

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celts32

In my mind he is...but I am not here to bash Campbell. I think Campbell can develop into a good starter. I just think Cutler has already shown he's a good starter and he could become great.

I discount Cutlers W/L record becasue his defense is awful.

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Mattyk

Was his defense terrible in college too? Just asking I really didn't follow him in college.

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Paintrain

If that's the case, how many of Campbell's losses do you discount because of the defense or other factors? Does the Rams loss count against him (Kendall fumble at the end of the 1st half, deep pass with less than 2 mins leading to the game winning FG)? Does the Cowboys loss in '07 count against him (4 TD given up to T.O.)? Does the SF loss count against him (giving up a game winning drive with less than 2 mins)? How can you apply that standard to one JC and not the other JC?

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Mattyk

I'm not talking about ego, I'm talking about him being a jerk. There's a difference.

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GMScud

Well, playing for Vanderbilt in the SEC, his teams were usually pretty overmatched on both sides of the ball. I will say that he probably gets some of his jerk attitude from his dad. I remember when Vandy played Florida in the Swamp during Cutler's last season, they were hanging tight with the Gators, and he was lighting it up. His dad got into a shouting match with Gator fans and was doing a mock gator chomp right in the face of some girls. Pretty lame. The look on his face when Florida ended up winning was great.

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BigHairedAristocrat

I dont think theres any question that Cutler is a better QB than Campbell is at this point in thier careers. However, Cutler isn't that much better... atleast not enough to warrant giving up our first rounder, and thats exactly what it would take to get him.

At this point, we've already paid Campbell a 2M bonus - if we were going to get rid of him, we should have done it a few weeks ago. Jason Campbell is our starter in 2009. If he gets the job done, we can extend him, give him a high tender, or franchise him in 2010. If he doesnt (much more likely), we will simply let him walk and get a 3rd round comp pick for him in 2011.

I was a proponent of trading Campbell earlier in the offseason, but at this point he's definitely going to be our starter this year (not that there was really ever any doubt about that to begin with). He's the best QB on our roster by far, and we need to hope he improves. If not, we can put Brennan in there half-way through the season and see if he has anything. No matter what happens, we'll have a clear picture of our QB situation (even if that picture is bleak), by the end of the season.

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Nice to see the Colt Brennan talks are still alive and well on The Warpath.


I have full faith in Campbell that if given a competent O-Line, that he can be a great QB in this league for the Skins.

Doesn't matter who's taking the snaps with the lack of protection our line provided last season.

We need to keep him.

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JoeRedskin

It sounds to me like he is just trying to whine his way out of Denver b/c they dumped the coaches he liked.

Newsflash: Take off the pampers and be a man. If you think they treated you disrespectfully, show'em up with your play not your mouth.

I join the "not gonna happen" crowd. Even if it could, I wouldn't touch this whiner with a 10 foot pole.

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