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Old 09-19-2004, 11:16 PM   #31
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I'm not blaming Gardner for the loss at all. It's the play of the offense TODAY that killed us. However, Gardner has been doing this for a few YEARS now. Enough. Maybe some time as the #3 or #4 will make him hungry for the ball again.
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Old 09-19-2004, 11:21 PM   #32
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Additionally, anyone who has played/coached/watched/eaten nachos at a sporting event that was played this poorly would find the need to make a change (not place blame mind you). Portis had a bad game. So what? He has two 1500 yd seasons under his belt. Brunell/Ramsey...that's the bed we made. But Gardner? There is depth at that postion and they can't possibly ignore this inconsistancy week after week.
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Old 09-19-2004, 11:45 PM   #33
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But Gardner? There is depth at that postion and they can't possibly ignore this inconsistancy week after week.
year after year. dude has small hands or something, its not something you can coach. he's not looking away, he watches the ball bounce off his hands...
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Old 09-20-2004, 12:48 AM   #34
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reminds me of watching champ return punts... alright... he fumbled the last one...

and skins1573, ramsey had three really dumb turnovers, but they were all behind the NYG 10yard line... he was actually able to move the ball, so those picks would have a harder time being turned into points (and none were)... brunell and portis both had fumbles near our 20-30yd line bad bad place to get hit like that...

not that i'm defending anyone, but the blame isn't just on ramsey, or gardner, or anyone, EVERYONE helped us lose that on O... the QBs, portis, gardner, the O line, the playcalling, everyone.
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Old 09-20-2004, 02:51 AM   #35
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reminds me of watching champ return punts... alright... he fumbled the last one...

and skins1573, ramsey had three really dumb turnovers, but they were all behind the NYG 10yard line... he was actually able to move the ball, so those picks would have a harder time being turned into points (and none were)... brunell and portis both had fumbles near our 20-30yd line bad bad place to get hit like that...

not that i'm defending anyone, but the blame isn't just on ramsey, or gardner, or anyone, EVERYONE helped us lose that on O... the QBs, portis, gardner, the O line, the playcalling, everyone.
you are correct about ramsey being able to move the ball, but as much points as those turnovers by the othere 2 guys cost us, you can use the same argument for the points we could/should of had if it wasn't for ramsey's turnovers. Like you said no one guy is to blame for the game, it's a team sport, and I just hope we get the offense going for monday night. :thumb:
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Old 09-20-2004, 08:26 AM   #36
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[QUOTE=Brute44]I agree that Gardner has to focus more during the game [QUOTE]

The only thing Gardner should be focusing on is the BENCH. He has dropped KEY passes CONSISTENTLY throughout his career.
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Old 09-20-2004, 12:27 PM   #37
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you are correct about ramsey being able to move the ball, but as much points as those turnovers by the othere 2 guys cost us, you can use the same argument for the points we could/should of had if it wasn't for ramsey's turnovers. Like you said no one guy is to blame for the game, it's a team sport, and I just hope we get the offense going for monday night.
pretty much agree with all that... also hoping for a quick turn-around...
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Old 09-20-2004, 12:53 PM   #38
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As others have said, Gardner isn't responsible for this loss (the entire offense is), but he has proven to be inconsistant his entire career....how else do you get the 50/50 nickname? It's time to give someone else (McCants) a shot to step up.
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Old 09-20-2004, 12:56 PM   #39
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We need someone who can run crisp routes and catch the ball every time. Sounds like James Thrash to me.

I'd also like to see the Skins get Chris Cooley more involved
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Old 09-20-2004, 01:00 PM   #40
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I'd also like to see the Skins get Chris Cooley more involved
Me too. This kid has great hands and just won't go down when he has the ball.
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