Ramsey on the move again

Dirtbag59 · 04-05-2009, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

Well that's not true. He had a cannon.

Lol, it's not like he's the first one to make that assumption. I remember once my friend tried to argue with me that Joey Harrington had a stronger arm then Patrick Ramsey.

SirClintonPortis · 04-05-2009, 02:49 AM

He may have Torry Holt to throw to should he ever get the chance to start.

JoeRedskin · 04-05-2009, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Boston Brave

For Ramsey, three things pro arm (not Brett Favre, but good), good size, and for those who remember....this guy was tough as nails....he got hit so many times in Washington.

Minus...just one...played the game to slow (physically and mentally).

....Next thread.

I would add one more minus, although a smart guy, he continued to make the same mistakes over and over again.

Don't get me wrong, I loved the guy, but he just didn't have "it".

Hog1 · 04-05-2009, 10:19 AM

I wish him well............

clarkskin · 04-07-2009, 09:55 AM

Ramsey had a lot of potential. He has a very strong arm. Spurrier basically killed him.

Stuck in TX · 04-07-2009, 10:45 AM

Its a wonder Denver let him go. He belongs somewhere that has O-line problems. It will shorten his career further, but I have never seen someone get hit harder and still throw a fade route. He always popped right up (and never yelled at Spurrier for absolutely no blocking schemes).

CRedskinsRule · 04-07-2009, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I would add one more minus, although a smart guy, he continued to make the same mistakes over and over again.

Don't get me wrong, I loved the guy, but he just didn't have "it".

Joe, as a lawyer, can you tell me what the definition of "it" is, as you are using it?

Mattyk · 04-07-2009, 10:53 AM

I'm not sure the Spurrier excuse holds up anymore. Regardless of who coached him up those first few years I don't think his career would have ended up any different.

firstdown · 04-07-2009, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm not sure the Spurrier excuse holds up anymore. Regardless of who coached him up those first few years I don't think his career would have ended up any different.

I'm tired of the Spurrier excuse myself. If a guy can play QB all his life and having a bad coach for 2 years can ruin his career then he had problems befor then. He has now had 5 years to get over Spurrier and seems he cannot find a team.

JoeRedskin · 04-07-2009, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Joe, as a lawyer, can you tell me what the definition of "it" is, as you are using it?

Yes I can.

CRedskinsRule · 04-07-2009, 11:22 AM

succint. Thanks

steveo395 · 04-07-2009, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I would add one more minus, although a smart guy, he continued to make the same mistakes over and over again.

Don't get me wrong, I loved the guy, but he just didn't have "it".

Also, his accuracy wasn't that good

FRPLG · 04-07-2009, 01:20 PM

He simply didn't have the mental makeup to achieve logn term success. I don't think he was dumb so his defense reading had to be at least ok but he clearly went nutso once the ball was snapped. He rushed sometimes, he was way too slow at others. His dcision making seemd to suffer from "ohshitfluenza" and he simply didn't have the right makeup to make plays beyond simple open WRs. As a backup I think the guy had a place in the league but if he is your starter for any length of time you're doomed.

As far as Spurrier, maybe his scheme quickened the ripening on Ramsey's inabilities but they were there to begin with sans OBC.

redsk1 · 04-07-2009, 02:12 PM

Ramsey didn't have it. We all get caught up in thinking that our QB is the next great thing or our longterm solution. Ramsey deserved a chance, he got it, and didn't have it. He's a mediocre NFL journeyman QB. Nothing wrong w/ that.

After a couple of seasons, if we can't tell whether or not a QB has it, he probably doesn't. There are a few QB's though, who find "it" as they get older. Rich Gannon and Trent Green comes to mind (just coincidence they were both Skins).

SkinDogg · 04-07-2009, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jacobylookalike

The only good thing about Patrick Ramsey was that we kept making deals to move back and he was still there. He was not a good QB. There are many like him. He had an average arm and an average intelligence at reading defenses.

He also had Steve Spurrier.

04-05-2009, 02:49 AM	#17
SirClintonPortis Pro Bowl Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,052	Re: Ramsey on the move again He may have Torry Holt to throw to should he ever get the chance to start.

04-05-2009, 10:19 AM	#19
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 8,376	Re: Ramsey on the move again I wish him well............ __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... Win! Always win! By fair means or foul, by soft words and hard deeds... by treachery, by cunning, by malpractice... but always win--Edward Teach

04-07-2009, 09:55 AM	#20
clarkskin Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: ocean city Posts: 6	Re: Ramsey on the move again Ramsey had a lot of potential. He has a very strong arm. Spurrier basically killed him.

04-07-2009, 10:45 AM	#21
Stuck in TX Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Age: 27 Posts: 545	Re: Ramsey on the move again Its a wonder Denver let him go. He belongs somewhere that has O-line problems. It will shorten his career further, but I have never seen someone get hit harder and still throw a fade route. He always popped right up (and never yelled at Spurrier for absolutely no blocking schemes). __________________ We will miss you Sean. RIP 1983-2007 REMEMBER VT Go Hokies

04-07-2009, 10:53 AM	#23
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,718	Re: Ramsey on the move again I'm not sure the Spurrier excuse holds up anymore. Regardless of who coached him up those first few years I don't think his career would have ended up any different. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

04-07-2009, 11:22 AM	#26
CRedskinsRule MVP Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Pasadena, Md Age: 45 Posts: 10,914	Re: Ramsey on the move again succint. Thanks

04-07-2009, 01:20 PM	#28
FRPLG Franchise Player Join Date: May 2004 Age: 34 Posts: 9,232	Re: Ramsey on the move again He simply didn't have the mental makeup to achieve logn term success. I don't think he was dumb so his defense reading had to be at least ok but he clearly went nutso once the ball was snapped. He rushed sometimes, he was way too slow at others. His dcision making seemd to suffer from "ohshitfluenza" and he simply didn't have the right makeup to make plays beyond simple open WRs. As a backup I think the guy had a place in the league but if he is your starter for any length of time you're doomed. As far as Spurrier, maybe his scheme quickened the ripening on Ramsey's inabilities but they were there to begin with sans OBC.

04-07-2009, 02:12 PM	#29
redsk1 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,351	Re: Ramsey on the move again Ramsey didn't have it. We all get caught up in thinking that our QB is the next great thing or our longterm solution. Ramsey deserved a chance, he got it, and didn't have it. He's a mediocre NFL journeyman QB. Nothing wrong w/ that. After a couple of seasons, if we can't tell whether or not a QB has it, he probably doesn't. There are a few QB's though, who find "it" as they get older. Rich Gannon and Trent Green comes to mind (just coincidence they were both Skins).

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