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Old 09-22-2004, 10:56 PM   #1
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Cap sanity and valuing draft selections

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MARK BRUNELL (Washington Redskins) injured
Contract: 7 years $43 million, $8.6 million signing bonus
Draft Picks: 2004 3rd Round given to Jaguars
Stats: 2 GS, 54.8% completion, 217 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 1 sack, 3 fumbles, 67.3 Rating, 0 rush TD
Record: 1-1



KERRY COLLINS (Oakland Raiders)
Contract: 3 years $16.82 million, $1.64 million signing bonus
Draft Picks: none given, free-agent signing
Stats: hasn't played yet
Record: hasn't played yet


TIM COUCH (Green Bay Packers) out of league
Contract: 1 year $1.25 million, $625,000 signing bonus
Draft Picks: none given, free-agent signing
Stats: N/A
Record: N/A


A.J. FEELEY (Miami Dolphins)
Contract: 5 years $18 million, $3 million signing bonus
Draft Picks: 2005 2nd Round given to Eagles
Stats: 1 GS (2 G), 42.0% completion, 386 yards, 2 TD, 3 INT, 0 sacks, 0 fumbles, 66.7 Rating, 0 Rush TD
Record: 0-1


JEFF GARCIA (Cleveland Browns)
Contract: 4 years $25 million, $5 million signing bonus, $10 million over the first 2 years
Draft Picks: none given, free-agent signing
Stats: 2 GS, 45.1% completion, 251 yards, 1 TD, 3 INT, 3 sacks, 0 fumbles, 42.2 Rating, 1 rush TD
Record: 1-1


VINNY TESTAVERDE (Dallas Cowboys)
Contract: 1 year $1.1 million, no signing bonus, incentives
Draft Picks: none given, free-agent signing
Stats: 2 GS, 61.2% completion, 677 yards, 2 TD, 3 INT, 2 sacks, 1 fumble, 79.4 Rating, 0 Rush TD
Record: 1-1



KURT WARNER (New York Giants)
Contract: 2 years $9.5 million, $1.5 million signing bonus, incentives
Draft Picks: none given, free-agent signing
Stats: 2 GS, 62.3% completion, 435 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT, 6 sacks, 3 fumbles, 89.2 Rating, 0 Rush TD
Record: 1-1
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Old 09-22-2004, 11:30 PM   #2
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give it a few weeks so we can really judge this
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Old 09-22-2004, 11:39 PM   #3
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Vinny Testaverde.. Played the Vikings defense and the Browns defense. What an animal!
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Old 09-22-2004, 11:39 PM   #4
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you obviously should have gotten kurt... seriously though, 677 yards and only 2 tds means he's a 20-20 qb... and you're once again focusing too much on the stats to see the bigger picture... gibbs runs a RUN HEAVY offense, you don't have an RB worth playing, so of course dallass is going to pass more. and everyone here knows mark was way overpaid, i don't like it, but i have no control over that. Our records are still the same though, and a QB is only 1 position among many on a football team... i'm sure dallass has its share of bad contracts too. these somewhat meaningless 2 page stat posts are really pretty boring...
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Old 09-23-2004, 12:06 AM   #5
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Ugh. Brunell was way overpaid.

I'm sorry, but I sort of don't have a great feeling about an 8.6 million dollar signing bonus.

Even if he gets released three years from now, we still take a 5 million dollar cap hit.

That blows considering he would have been cut, and we could have probably signed him for close to what Warner is getting.
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Old 09-23-2004, 12:10 AM   #6
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The worst one out of that bunch was A.J. Feeley. Mingya, what were they thinking???
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Old 09-23-2004, 12:21 AM   #7
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ummm it's week 3, let's save the number crunching for after the season when we'll have a better perspective.
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Old 09-23-2004, 01:59 AM   #8
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I agree with oa la73hof that we sqandered picks and overpaid for sorry ass brunnel. But remember onething, salary cap is no good if its not used. People these days are so concerned about the cap so don't even use all of it.
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Old 09-23-2004, 02:55 AM   #9
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People these days are so concerned about the cap so don't even use all of it.
but on the flip side, that's no excuse to max it out every year on average to below average talent. Our DL and brunell have a lot more money than they should tied up in them...

right now i think i rather have AO than brunell and gardner, but i'll wait till the end of the season before i say anything like that for sure
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Old 09-23-2004, 09:14 AM   #10
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Brunell has played in two games, let's give the guy a chance before we make the final verdict on his deal. It's way too early to start drawing conclusions on who was a great pickup and who wasn't.
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Old 09-23-2004, 10:31 AM   #11
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I hope your right Marrtyk72, because to me it quite clear that Brunnel no longer has the physical tools to ba an effective quaterback.
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Old 09-23-2004, 10:55 AM   #12
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Brunell was still the best fit for the team. Besides being a left handed QB(which I'm not really in favor for), he's mobil & still posses a strong arm. By week 5 we will all be praising Gibbs & his staff.

I trust Brunell over Ramsey. Mark is a smarter QB & once he gels with the guys on his O, he's gonna start firing lasers all over the field.

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Old 09-23-2004, 02:44 PM   #13
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If we made decisions after 2 games in 1981 we would have run Gibbs and Joey T right out of town. Settle down, it's way to early fellas...
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way too early to see how well he does etc, i think its fairly obvious he's overpaid though...
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Old 09-23-2004, 06:02 PM   #15
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Ramsey starting vs Dallas? Now, if Ramsey plays well (god I hope so) then maybe Brunell is riding the bench for the next couple years.

Brunell has shown me little in the way of arm strength. When I see him complete a pass longer than 7 yards we'll see.
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